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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 27


Alien  29 | 7660
5 hrs ago   #571
, it's about the economy

Economy is very brutal, one makes money, another makes loses.
Ironside  53 | 13921
4 hrs ago   #572
Economy is very brutal,

Trump dropped his speech. It's really good.
Novichok  7 | 11573
4 hrs ago   #573
Right now it is..

You ignored this:

Try to come up with just one hostile act by Russia toward Germany in the last 30 years.

...and the referenda in Crimea and Donbass.

I noticed that Russia haters habitually jump over these very inconvenient facts.

A reminder: Even the US doesn't deny that both Crimaea and Donbass are parts of Russia now...

Odessa was built by Russia in 1794, and, ethnically, has been Russian since then. Being in Ukraine was an internal Soviet decision, just as the border between Illinois and Indiana is our decision. If Indiana attacked Illinois, nobody would advocate sending the Polish army to defend Illinois.

What A gives B, A can demand back when B wants to join A's enemy. NATO sees Russia as an enemy, so Russia has a right to treat it as such, and ignore the crap about "sovereign and independent". That's a good line for third-graders and Paulina, but not for the US or Russia and their existential considerations.

Let "sovereign and independent" Mexico try to form a military alliance with China. You will be amazed at how quickly US Marines would be parachuting into the city of Mexico.

Just as on that oil ship recently...BTW, I loved that video...and the American big fist.
Torq  26 | 2120
4 hrs ago   #574
New Krab is coming...

1

2

... the new version will be built based on the experience it gained in Ukraine, will have longer firing range and fully automated loading, which will allow to decrease the number of crewmen from 5 to 3.

Polish army already ordered 200, some of which will be passed to Ukraine right away.
Korvinus  9 | 865
2 hrs ago   #575
I noticed that Russia haters habitually jump over these very inconvenient facts.

You have been explained time and again that referendums have been illegal. A proper referendum like in Scotland with two years of sides making their case would have been perfectly fine. The problem is: there wasn't any actual movement to join Russia in these places and nobody wanted referendums in 2010-2014. The pro-russian party(a party which actually advocated joining Russia) got like 4% votes in Crimea in 2012 election.

Maidan happened in 2014. Zelensky became president in 2019. Between these two events numerous elections took place in Ukraine, in which pro-Russian candidates were allowed to participate. It's just the people did not want them to win any top position of power. I wonder, what could have been the reason for that?

While Crimean and Donbas 'referendum' had no semblance of legality (happening under military occupation of hostile power), Ukrainian elections were legit and fair, indeed. Every candidate that fulfilled the criteria could participate and there was no tinkering with the voting and calculating the results. The process was conducted under control of international organizations, among them OSCE. The results were recognized not only by the West, but by Russia too.
Ironside  53 | 13921
44 mins ago   #576
A test question, Who was Catherine Deneuve without Google, i.e., cheating?
Novichok  7 | 11573
6 mins ago   #577
You have been explained time and again that referendums have been illegal.

And I have explained time and again that if the Kosovo referendum was legal, the Crimea referendum was legal, too...Duh!

there wasn't any actual movement to join Russia in these places, and nobody wanted referendums in 2010-201

Nobody gives a fvck about "movements". That's girlie talk.

Also, how do we know that nobody wanted a referendum? Did anyone in Kiev try to organize a referendum to find out if Crimeans wanted a separation referendum?

Your arguments are pathetic enough to remove all doubts if you are a Polak or a woman.

Maidan happened in 2014

No, Maidan didn't happen...It was organized by Western warmongers, the CIA, Soros gangs, and globalist NGOs to remove a legally elected, pro-Russia president.

While Crimean and Donbas 'referendum' had no semblance of legality (happening under military occupation of a hostile power),

How many people got shot right before, during, and after? Did Russia invite international observers or not?

If Russia didn't police the event, would Kiev allow the referenda to take place?

How many "separatists" were killed after the 2014 "revolution" and before Russia said "enough" in 2022? 15 fvcking thousand...

Were the elections in Japan and Germany after WW2 illegal because both were under US occupation? And flattened right before?

I am not even going to count Jap and German dead bodies...Those might have some influence on the election outcomes. Right?

You are like a child...with zero back and sideways vision... I should be paid for being your nanny...


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