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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 27


Alien  30 | 7681
20 Dec 2025   #571
, it's about the economy

Economy is very brutal, one makes money, another makes loses.
Ironside  53 | 13960
20 Dec 2025   #572
Economy is very brutal,

Trump dropped his speech. It's really good.
Novichok  7 | 11191
20 Dec 2025   #573
Right now it is..

You ignored this:

Try to come up with just one hostile act by Russia toward Germany in the last 30 years.

...and the referenda in Crimea and Donbass.

I noticed that Russia haters habitually jump over these very inconvenient facts.

A reminder: Even the US doesn't deny that both Crimaea and Donbass are parts of Russia now...

Odessa was built by Russia in 1794, and, ethnically, has been Russian since then. Being in Ukraine was an internal Soviet decision, just as the border between Illinois and Indiana is our decision. If Indiana attacked Illinois, nobody would advocate sending the Polish army to defend Illinois.

What A gives B, A can demand back when B wants to join A's enemy. NATO sees Russia as an enemy, so Russia has a right to treat it as such, and ignore the crap about "sovereign and independent". That's a good line for third-graders and Paulina, but not for the US or Russia and their existential considerations.

Let "sovereign and independent" Mexico try to form a military alliance with China. You will be amazed at how quickly US Marines would be parachuting into the city of Mexico.

Just as on that oil ship recently...BTW, I loved that video...and the American big fist.
Torq  28 | 2135
20 Dec 2025   #574
New Krab is coming...

1

2

... the new version will be built based on the experience it gained in Ukraine, will have longer firing range and fully automated loading, which will allow to decrease the number of crewmen from 5 to 3.

Polish army already ordered 200, some of which will be passed to Ukraine right away.
Korvinus  9 | 854
20 Dec 2025   #575
I noticed that Russia haters habitually jump over these very inconvenient facts.

You have been explained time and again that referendums have been illegal. A proper referendum like in Scotland with two years of sides making their case would have been perfectly fine. The problem is: there wasn't any actual movement to join Russia in these places and nobody wanted referendums in 2010-2014. The pro-russian party(a party which actually advocated joining Russia) got like 4% votes in Crimea in 2012 election.

Maidan happened in 2014. Zelensky became president in 2019. Between these two events numerous elections took place in Ukraine, in which pro-Russian candidates were allowed to participate. It's just the people did not want them to win any top position of power. I wonder, what could have been the reason for that?

While Crimean and Donbas 'referendum' had no semblance of legality (happening under military occupation of hostile power), Ukrainian elections were legit and fair, indeed. Every candidate that fulfilled the criteria could participate and there was no tinkering with the voting and calculating the results. The process was conducted under control of international organizations, among them OSCE. The results were recognized not only by the West, but by Russia too.
Ironside  53 | 13960
20 Dec 2025   #576
A test question, Who was Catherine Deneuve without Google, i.e., cheating?
Novichok  7 | 11191
20 Dec 2025   #577
You have been explained time and again that referendums have been illegal.

And I have explained time and again that if the Kosovo referendum was legal, the Crimea referendum was legal, too...Duh!

there wasn't any actual movement to join Russia in these places, and nobody wanted referendums in 2010-201

Nobody gives a fvck about "movements". That's girlie talk.

Also, how do we know that nobody wanted a referendum? Did anyone in Kiev try to organize a referendum to find out if Crimeans wanted a separation referendum?

Your arguments are pathetic enough to remove all doubts if you are a Polak or a woman.

Maidan happened in 2014

No, Maidan didn't happen...It was organized by Western warmongers, the CIA, Soros gangs, and globalist NGOs to remove a legally elected, pro-Russia president.

While Crimean and Donbas 'referendum' had no semblance of legality (happening under military occupation of a hostile power),

How many people got shot right before, during, and after? Did Russia invite international observers or not?

If Russia didn't police the event, would Kiev allow the referenda to take place?

How many "separatists" were killed after the 2014 "revolution" and before Russia said "enough" in 2022? 15 fvcking thousand...

Were the elections in Japan and Germany after WW2 illegal because both were under US occupation? And flattened right before?

I am not even going to count Jap and German dead bodies...Those might have some influence on the election outcomes. Right?

You are like a child...with zero back and sideways vision... I should be paid for being your nanny...
Korvinus  9 | 854
20 Dec 2025   #578
And I have explained time and again that if the Kosovo referendum was legal, the Crimea referendum was legal, too...Duh!

Crimean and Donbas 'referendum' had no semblance of legality (happening under military occupation of hostile power).
Novichok  7 | 11191
20 Dec 2025   #579
Elections in Japan and Germany after World War II were illegal because both were under US occupation.

All elections in Poland between 1945 and when the Red Army left in 1993 were illegal. Therefore, Poland had no government for 48 years.

Dealing with morons like Kor is painful.
Korvinus  9 | 854
20 Dec 2025   #580
Japan and Germany after World War

It was long ago. It is of no consequence. After the same war US have given Poland to Stalin.
Novichok  7 | 11191
20 Dec 2025   #581
It was long ago. It is of no consequence.

It's like talking to a retarded moron...

Where did I say that elections in Japan had any consequences outside of Japan? Duh!

I mentioned Japan to show that the presence of an occupying army - that would be the American army, azzhole - DOES NOT MAKE ELECTIONS ILLEGITIMATE. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, go away, and find another poster to bs to death...
Tlum  13 | 435
20 Dec 2025   #582
Crimean referendum was illegal and unconstitutional because "Ukraine is a unitary state, and its constitution requires that any changes to its territory be approved by a national referendum involving all Ukrainian citizens, not just residents of Crimea. The local authorities in Crimea lacked the power to call a regional vote on secession."

Morons referring to the referendum as some legitimate example should stop doing it right now.

It's like Somalis organizing a referendum in Minnesota to place it under Somali governance, taking it away from US authority.
Novichok  7 | 11191
21 Dec 2025   #583
by a national referendum involving all Ukrainian citizens, not just residents of Crimea.

Did the referendum in Kosovo involve all Serbian citizens, not just residents of Kosovo?

Did the presence of the US army in Japan make voting in Japan illegitimate?

Please don't play a moron and tell me that it was a long time ago.. One Polish moron is enough.
Tlum  13 | 435
21 Dec 2025   #584
The question is pointless - I refereed to the Ukrainian constitution that forbids what the Russians did. I may research Kosovo later, but again - it will not change anything.
Novichok  7 | 11191
21 Dec 2025   #585
I referred to the Ukrainian constitution that forbids what the Russians did.

Therefore, to prevent an oppressed minority from separating from the oppressors, the oppressed minority needs a blessing from the oppressors.

I rest my case. Do we have a padded wagon on standby?

In conclusion, all Polaks on PF are morons and not worth my time.
Tlum  13 | 435
21 Dec 2025   #586
the oppressed minority needs a blessing from the oppressors

Oppressed Somalis also wish to create Minnesotastan and separate from the US - I'm glad you root for their cause. But to make it happen, the Constitutions MUST be amended first.
Novichok  7 | 11191
21 Dec 2025   #587
The question is pointless

Bullshlt! It's critical to this debate...

It's "pointless" only because I got you into a corner, dumb Polak, from which there is no exit.

Memo to dumb Polaks: Pick better targets. You will never win with me.

At least we got another good - bad case...Here we go:

The US army in Japan - voting in Japan is legit

The Russian army in Crimea - voting in Crimea is not legit

Tlum  13 | 435
21 Dec 2025   #588
Army presence is immaterial. What matters are the laws of the land / the Constitution. Stop repeating the army nonsense.
Novichok  7 | 11191
21 Dec 2025   #589
Crimean and Donbas 'referendum' had no semblance of legality.

Army presence is immaterial

Go argue with Kor and get your shlt together first...

What matters are the laws of the land / the Constitution.

I already told you that the constitution doesn't matter in a separation referendum, or the oppressive majority would forever be able to oppress the minortiy.

Let me try this one on you: If the German Constitution said it's OK to gas Jews, would anyone in Nuremberg say: Sorry, we can't proceed since the German Constitution allows it?

They would say to this moron: Sit down and shut the fvck up. Human rights trump any and all such documents. That's why international laws provide for separation referenda.

BTW, this stupid document says that Ukraine should belong to NATO. The US and Russia don't agree with the U Constitution. Guess who wins...Tough shlt...
Tlum  13 | 435
21 Dec 2025   #590
Go argue with Kor and get your shlt together first...

His argument only adds to mine. It was illegal because of the constitution (the main reason) and the foreign army presence.

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Half of New Mexico's population identifies as Hispanic or Latino. If more people moved there from other states, that group could make up as much as 80% of the population.

So you're suggesting their majority local and state government can hold a referendum to escape Trump's oppression and rejoin Mexico? The hypocrisy and lack of reason here is beyond clownish.
Torq  28 | 2135
21 Dec 2025   #591
You have been explained time and again that referendums have been illegal.

Since when does explaining things help people who lack either the capacity or the will to understand?

The hypocrisy and lack of reason here is beyond clownish.

Ryszard's coat of arms bears the motto hypocrisis et inopia rationis. xD
Novichok  7 | 11191
21 Dec 2025   #592
It was illegal because of the constitution

Hey, stupid, when your life, individually or collectively, is on the line, documents mean shlt.

When a bunch of Euro morons steal Russia's assets, it takes a real azzhole to discuss the legality of a referendum that produced 85% yes votes.

In closing: My contempt for you, Euroholes, is near the saturation point...When you, morons, decided to take what was not yours, you have proven what I have been saying here all the time:

Never trust Western ruling mobs. Luckily, Russia took revenge immediately, and the rest of the financial world took notice.

Long live Russia. Fvck you, Euros...
Korvinus  9 | 854
21 Dec 2025   #593
Putin says child marriage is a "very good tradition"

united24media.com/latest-news/facing-record-low-birth-rates-putin-says-teen-marriage-is-the-answer-14442

Russia is running out of meat for the grinder, so now Putin not only wants to bring more muslims and pajeets, but for Russian people to give them their children to rape to quickly repopulate the country. This is the future Novi want, 12yo white russian girls being bred by n!ggers. Remember that every time a russian supporter like Noviochok tries to pretend he's pro white, every time any of them tries to talk about morality. Becoming a russia supporter is simply a final step in the evolution of a woke retard, just as the jews intended.
Novichok  7 | 11191
21 Dec 2025   #594
This is the future Novi want, 12yo white russian girls being bred by n!ggers.

Novi wants to put them against a wall and execute them...legally, of course...

Becoming a russia supporter

I support Russia following the rule that the enemy of my enemy is my dearest friend. That's why I am so happy that North Korea has nukes.

Way back, they didn't have nukes, and 38,000 Americans were brought home in body bags. This would not happen today.

For that, I love you, Mr. Kim Jong Un...Where can I send you flowers?
Novichok  7 | 11191
21 Dec 2025   #595
I love stories about home burglars who break their necks and end up in wheelchairs for life...A better outcome would be death...but, I guess, I can't have everything...

Here is another such case...

Western motherfvckers stealing Russia's money...I pray it will give you Stage 4 cancer, azzholes...It's already showing signs...good...



For now, any moron country that will trust these bastards...please stand up...
Torq  28 | 2135
21 Dec 2025   #596
Western motherfvckers stealing Russia's money

Like that 120 tons of gold that Romania sent to Russia for safekeeping and that Russia stole?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_Treasure

Russia stealing others' money: Good

Others stealing Russia's money: Bad

Novichok being a retard: Always
Novichok  7 | 11191
21 Dec 2025   #597
Now it's time for me to wish Euros...something...

OK, I wish you, thieves, a very painful financial decline...You are already on the way into your communal mass ethnic grave, dug and guarded by your Muslim guests and the ruling globalist class...



How Russia DESTROYED Europe's $245 Billion Theft With ONE Legal Move

I haven't seen the video yet, but I already love the title...

Memo to Russia: Give 'em hell...

BTW, I always thought the stealing money was a Gypsie and Jewish expertise...On the other hand, it seems justified...Putin stole kids, so we steal money...
Novichok  7 | 11191
21 Dec 2025   #598
Like that 120 tons of gold that Romania sent to Russia for safekeeping and that Russia stole?

I got it. A steals from B, so C feels it can steal from A.

It's ironic for the High Moral Ground occupiers to act like this.
Torq  28 | 2135
21 Dec 2025   #599
I got it.

No you don't, you senile idiot.

Freedom and independence for Ryszard: Good

Freedom and independence for Ukrainians: Bad

Ryszard gagging on Putin's cock: Always

That's why I am so happy that North Korea has nukes.

Nukes for North Korea to make future invasion of South Korea easier than the first one: Good

Nukes for Poland to make Russian invasion and WW3 less likely: Bad

Novichok's brain: Nonexistent

Now f*ck off, you hipocrite scumbag piece of sh*t.
Novichok  7 | 11191
21 Dec 2025   #600
As always, comments are the best part:

You don't steal because someone else is a thief; you steal because you're a thief.

This is why the EU wants a digital currency, so they can steal your money.

I love Europe, but I am glad if the EU collapses. It is a bureaucratic monster.

I hope this is the end of the EU.


Now, children, the proper use of "when hell freezes over"...Here we go:

Russia, China, India, and Saudi Arabia will again deposit money for safekeeping in Western Europe when hell freezes over....

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