Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26

Russians fight for Russia in Russia.

Americans fight for exactly what?

No they don't! Russians increasingly DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT FOR RUSSIA, which is why Russia is importing North Koreans and Africans!


Americans fight for freedom for all but especially for Americans!

Poor, useless Russians cannot resist Ukraine.....

The Russians just lie and lie and lie.......

Americans didn't want to fight in Vietnam.

Russians volunteer to liberate Donbas.


Name the last war when Americans were fighting for their freedom...and who was the occupier of America...

The USA has just signed Putin's death warrant! Tomahawk missiles will now be supplied to Ukraine.Trump has done it again!

Name the last war when Americans were fighting for their freedom...and who was the occupier of America...

Russia has never been an enemy of the US.

It repeatedly asked to join NATO, but was refused because NATO and US MICC need an enemy to justify ripping 1 trillion out of US taxpayers every fvcking year.

This video confirms this in the first 60 seconds.

Is that your wish list, or are you trying to gaslight someone?
Rather than spew a lot of nonsense that doesn't mean anything, talk business. In terms of business, Russia doesn't want to be friendly with the US. A lot of damn stupid obese American peasants have difficulty grasping it.

I have thought you were talking BS again, but then:

Dude, you are all that. I give you that; you have an exquisite sense of humor, and you can even mock and laugh at yourself. Well done.

Russian economy is actually struggling for real for the first time since 2022. Population is demoralised and the oligarchy mafia is eating their own to survive. Of course for the said mafia this war is now the only way to survive but that doesn't mean they will actually have the means to continue it.
It's been 4 years, the fatigue is real and while Ukrainians are, at least, fighting for their country the Russians are dying for "monetary gain". With said "gain" losing its value every day as economy is tanking. I mean good luck buying anything with your blood money when inflation is in double digits.

....somehow I come to think that Ukraine only needs to hold on abit longer and we will see the end of Putin.

This useless, needless war...which was planned to be over in 6 weeks...proves to be such a drain on Russia, the longer it takes!

And since Putin is unable to win Trump over, the US and the West will keep on supporting Ukraine, maybe not in the offical big ways but just enough so that the Ukrainians can soldier on and keep on draining Russia.

At some time in a maybe not so far future we will maybe/possible/probably hear in the news about some accident in the Kremlin, with "our beloved leader" somehow not surving...with some till know Unknown taking over and offering talks to Washington and also Kiev....

To avoid that Putin needs the ukrainian case closed...successfully....and fast! And frankly, I can't see that....

PS: I can't help remembering back to the old tales of the Wehrmacht having such a tough time in the same fields....its in the people, they are doing it again!

China could sustain Russian economy just as the West is sustaining Ukrainian, but they have 0 interest in doing so, their motivations were always purely opportunistic and they will continue to play both sides and laugh from the sidelines. China is as risk averse as you can be, and they have absolutely no need to make desperate decisions like Putin.

The reality is that RU propaganda depicts any village with 5 babushkas captured as Ukraine's frontlines being destroyed. And UA propaganda depicts any strike in a small factory as RU economy will be destroyed in two weeks.

The only propaganda that was consistently optimistic, is the propaganda inside Ukraine, targeted toward Ukrainians, as no one else benefits from it. Russia want to project strength for their own population, while West couldn't do any militarization while telling people Russia is a joke, because people would say "why do we need to spend so much on defense if they're such a joke?" So the western propaganda was pretty much consistently "OMG Russia is a huge threat, they will totally take Ukraine and then rest of eastern Europe if you don't let us spend more of your money on military". But in reality Russia is a meme country like North Korea.

That becomes Putin's problem....the longer the "liberation" of Kiev is delayed the weaker he becomes in the eyes of his folks and (former) supporters. His own (former) comrades in his own circle getting "ideas"...it's the same old story!

How can we believe you, when you already "called" the collapse of the Russian economy in 200 other instances within the past 3 years?

Is this the same as Putin, who is about to die "at any moment" from Stage IV cancer for the past 3 years?

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Russia will always have money for war.

There is a Russian joke:

Son: Papa! Papa! They've raised the prices on vodka - surely you will drink less now!

Father: No son, it is you who will have to eat less from now on..

...and the Americans who wish him well...like me...and, very likely, Trump.

10 to 1 that Trump wants Russia to win and relax, but he can't say it or act on it. Americans are too stupid to see Russia's win as beneficial for the US.

Even US MICC wants a win for Russia to justify that fvcking trillion in military budget. A weak Russia, cut up into pieces like Yugoslavia, is useless.

They would have to come up with another enemy....Iran?

....thats the question....can you see this war going on like this for another 6 years maybe? That would make it 10....TEN YEARS, Bobko....something that should had been over after 6er weeks!

Can you really see Putin after such a long, unwon war still in power? And how will Russia look like after such a long, draining war....will he still have the support of his folks?

Strangely I have less problems to see Ukrainians still fighting in 6 years! (Maybe thats the german historical experience influencing)

Youi forgot about Russia running out of ammo in 72 hours...or was it in 72 years...I often forget things...


You mean like the Japs?

So, is Pokrovsk done yet? I heard it was fully encircled week ago already, and all supply routes were cut off even longer than that, surely by now the glorious Red Army must have finished mopping up unsupplied, trapped rats?

Pokrovsk is a slaughter house. Why close it while Z is still sending more cows there?

...think about it Novi....it had been mostly the ukrainian people making the life of the vaunted, totally superior Wehrmacht hell.....draining the Reich for years, till it had been ripe for the taking!

The Soviets were also supported (abit) by the West, yes...but it had been mainly the people in these lands there eating dirt and never giving up.

Am I the only one seeing all the similiarities???

PS: For decades it was only "the Russians" or "the Soviets"....but in the last years we learned it had been rather Ukrainians.

When they made an alliance with the Poles, we warred with the Cossacks for 38 years before finally breaking them.

We fought with them for another two years, when they stabbed us in the back and allied with the Swedes during Peter's reign.

Quite recently we fought with them for nearly four years, after some of them figured that the collapse of the Russian Empire was a good opportunity to "hop off the train". Kicking and screaming... but they were brought back home.

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It's not our first rodeo, sluggin it out with the Hohols.

The West should listen to Putin when he states that this is an existential battle for Russia, where cost and time are not material.

Listen to him - and do a deal. End this stupid war.

That "life or death" thing again? The last rhetoric weapon in the arsenal of every failing dictator?


I'm not quite convinced history repeats itself 1:1 like this....once Trump gives the Mohawk missiles free for Kiev to use its clear that Putin has made another big error in not securing Trumps support or at least his neutrality. That would be a total different situation than all the russian wars before...

To the Western woke vermin, patriotism is a foreign concept and close to genocide. The cure: DEI on steroids, aka open borders.

These azzholes are actually proud watching the flood...See? We must be special and that's why they are coming...

I can almost hear this shlt from Atch and Barney, ...

Well yes - as long as they have a working Soviet era printing press and some ink they can print as much as they like.

Hard currency is a different matter

I see Pokrovsk is hanging on for a few more days, probably weeks. Every day costing a hundred or so drunk farm boys - it really is the most senseless slaughter this century. Last comparable futile war was probably the Iran-Iraq thing in the 80s

It might be existential for Putin at this point, but hardly for Russia. Which means if the war keeps on going without a clear outcome, there will be increasing wilingness to get rid of Putin. There already was Wagner's effort at coup d'etat, and while it failed, the way Putin dealth with Prighozin assures that the next pretender will fight until the end.

For Ukraine it's an existential struggle, so they're willing to go as far as needed.

Russia should sooner or later realize that its enemy is China as it is the existential threat. The west is not an issue at all.

Also the soft southern muslim underbelly.

Can you tell me where the embassy of Yugoslavia is in Warsaw?

Of course it is. On a few levels.
Those who disagree know nothing.
But even more defining that war is for Ukraine.

If you would read some Ukrainian papers, watch some Ukrainian television, and immerse yourself a bit in their cultural scene - you would quickly see they're actually quite paranoid about the fact that they may be living through "Round 4" of partition.

That is, it's not just Bobko's wishful thinking.

The same symptoms are slowly emerging that "sunk" their independence ship in the past... so there's some reason for them to be paranoid.

The closest parallel to what is happening in Ukraine now, is what was happening to them in their last period of independence 1917-1921. Throughout the first half of that period, Imperial Germany was their main sponsor. Then Pilsudski's Poland and the countries of the Little Entente.

What sunk them then, was:

1) Unfortunate dictatorial tendencies from Petliura and Skoropadsky (Hello Zelensky and Yermak).

2) Constant political infighting triggered by turf wars over who controls the flows of money Western governments were donating to support the fight against the Bolsheviks.

3) An alienated populace that viewed their leaders as puppets in the pocket of Western capital. This manifested in a nearly total refusal to mobilize and pay taxes.

4) Clashes between Western and Eastern Ukrainians, who came from completely orthogonal cultural origins. Moscow played on these differences expertly, and to such an extent, that both sides would send embassies to Moscow with offers of betrayal in exchange for support.

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Where there are two Ukrainians - there are three Hetmans.

This has always been their weakness, even as they call us slaves. Our slavishness has held our great country together, while their rowdy and freedom loving ways have always led them to doom.

Yugoslavia = prison of nations that well deserved its partition.