Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26

Not the US, but Trump?

After all he pacified Gaza, got Israel the surviving hostages back....if he pacifies Ukraine now too he would have achieved more than all these blithering but in the end powerless idiots elsewhere in the West!

It is Putler who wants to finish it. His money is running low, he knows Golden Cow might not last a full term and whoever follows will be more professional. I don't know why Golden Cow doesn't park his jet somewhere and concentrate on sorting out the US economy instead of making new problems all over the world.

If the US manages to "end" the war under the current conditions and borders, it will virtually guarantee a real World War III in a few years, once the EU fully militarizes and becomes a dominant force within NATO. But perhaps everyone already knows by now that WW3 is inevitable - and a lot of bankers are counting on it.

...na ja....there is a huge question mark on that one....

A first milestone would be Austria, Cyprus, Ireland, and Malta to join and contribute to NATO in a meaningful way. For now, it looks stupid they are not full NATO members.

They would be idiots to do it. They are much safer now without the obligation to join other morons in a contrived war with Russia because some shlthole yelled: Article 5!!!!!!

As far as the US...I asked and got nothing but silence...So let's try again...hoping that NATO-loving Euroholes are out of their usual stupor when faced with inconvenient questions...

How does Cyprus in NATO make Americans in Iowa safer?


There is a comedy club in Warsaw called Stodola. Check if they have an opening...

Your "safety / peace" assumption is wrong because for the US, NATO is an offensive tool to achieve their goals on behalf of Jews in the Middle East and - sporadically - in other countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Venezuela, etc. Also, to be a world police. You want noble titles and honors, you have to pay for them.

@cms neuf
Poland is not getting nukes. No one will sell them to Poland, and there is no nuclear material in Poland to mine to enrich. That is a never going to happen thing.

Is English your fifth language?

Where did I "assume" anything?

So...concentrate and read slowly...


It's a legitimate question because if Cyprus in NATO made Americans in Iowa less safe, Cyprus would never be admitted to NATO.

So the question still stands:

How would Cyprus in NATO make Americans in Iowa safer?

If you don't know, just say so and move on...Only I know everything.


I agree. I just don't know why they talk shilt like this. To get a "we-too" hard-on?

Let me try this:

How is the US wasting NATO countries' money to advance a non-NATO member's (Israel's) military goals, making Poland or any other NATO member country safer?

I know corruption is rampant in the US, and for you, it's only corruption if it comes from another country.

Your English is great, but English proficiency does not guarantee a high IQ.

I am proficient and my IQ is plenty high to deal with Russia haters on PF.

How would Cyprus in NATO make Americans in Iowa safer?

Until this question is answered in good faith, we are done.

think: the other threat i.e. China - they have built up their military especially the navy - they want territories in the South China Sea (because, you know, after all it's calle China Sea) and they want to grab Taiwan - what keeps them from doing it now is the United States - and the US spent a lot of its war materiel on the Ukraine war, the materiel they want to replenish quickly to be ready for potential Taiwan crisis

The US will be able to borrow more money, which will allow it to pay an additional 0.55% of its annual debt interest, assuming Cyprus fulfills its future NATO payment obligations. In return, Iowans (getting federal aid) will be able to fulfill their food stamps quota or spend money on other needs.

You Polaks must be for a diffeent planet...

The US in a war with China over Taiwan? Are you fvcking nuts?

Would China go to war with the US over Puerto Rico if they went separate?

I still know Polish well enough to recall "pierdolnij sie w glowe"...

@Novichok
If you understood the strategic difference to the US and the world between Taiwan and Puerto Rico, you'd probably come up with a better example.

"Taiwan produces approximately 60% of global semiconductor output and an even more dominant 90% of the world's most advanced chips."

Ireland are defense freeloaders who assume the UK will defend them if push comes to shove....

With russian ships off their coast that's an outdated and dumb approach.

Maybe not a new hot war so soon....but proxy wars? A big new Cold War?

Depends on the direction China will go....right now its still all about flexing muscles and sizing each other up....gathering allies and bribing potentials...

@Ron2
Please give a link to an example where NATO money is going to Israel. If there is one, and I doubt it, lets compare the wasted United States dollars on Ukraine. And if its NATO money, who contributes the most?

I don't know why I have to explain that, but here it is. Logic 101, too:

"No, the US military does not have a separate budget specifically for NATO operations; rather, a single, large defense budget covers all US military operations globally, which inherently includes a significant portion of its commitments to NATO.

The US Department of Defense's budget covers all military activities, including operations, training, and equipment, for its own forces worldwide."

It is a stone cold going to happen thing. We can get uranium from our friends and neighbors in Czech - they are reopening their Uranium mines.

That would be a good place for North Nigerian war criminals to serve their sentences BTW

You lived with us, under one roof, for more than a century. No need to "educate" us about who Poles are.

We understand Poles, as no one else can understand them. Certainly not Germans or faceless bureaucrats in Brussels.

If it seems as though we do not understand Poles... then give it time. People in Ukraine now, are waking up to the fact that we understand them very well, and that we are not as alien to each other as they would like to argue.

A quiet whisper from the East, carried by the wind, that lands on your brain - and then creeps into your heart.


Not the worst thing that can happen.

But sprinkle in some Greek Byzantine tradition (Third Rome), Germanic obedience (300 years of Germans in power), and a Viking genesis (Rurik) - and you have the potent recipe for a globe-encompassing mentality.

faeces in their gardens, left by North Nigerian "soldiers"

Things may appear messy at first.

Horsefeathers, the only country threatening Ireland is a NATO member. The hysteria about Russia invading Ireland is bollox, the hysteria about Russian activity around Ireland is bollox. What isn't bollox is the death squads funded and directed by a NATO member being ignored or the war crimes committed by the NATO member being ignored.

When NATO members stop their global rampage and stop occupying part of my country then Ireland may consider other options.

how about a referendum?

Ay, there's the rub! My brain dismisses the whisper easily and finds a dozen of good reasons to do so. The heart, however... the heart is defenseless.

What strange creatures are humans!

Anyways, why isn't Poland mobilizing yet? Our eternal nemesis awaits us in the steppes of Ukraine and we are sitting in our armchairs like a bunch of Dutch shopkeepers.

O Poland - maiden of the lucid eye,
To thee stern Fate her secret warning breathes:
Amid the northern wastes, where storms convene,
Old enmity in muffled thunder sighs.

He, he - that's more like it, kurwa! Thank you for awakening an ancient Pole in me, Bobi. You are the best friend ever! :)

About what?

Personally I like the Irish.

God bless that island. Especially their former president Higgins. That little guy was "alright" with us - his heart in the right place. This new Connelly lady, we have to see...

Eamon de Valera is someone any educated Russian knows about. These Irishmen, they've been clever in their relationship to us from the beginning - and we appreciate this.

What effin' "global rampage"?

Back to the truth.....enough Russophile propaganda.......

This is hilarious..... but Russophiles still think they are winning...... this war will not end soon.....can Russia really keep going?I don't think so.....

@mafketis

A huge arc of countries invaded, bombed and destabilised by NATO countries. The stand out places are Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and so on. The not so obvious victims currently include Armenian and Venezuelan civilians and more traditionally huge swaths of Africa. The US led destruction of a rules based order has been policy for a very long time.

It's undeniable that NATO countries speak with forked tongue and have been on a rampage for decades.