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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26


Bobko  28 | 2881
2 days ago   #601
@Novichok

I cannot fault Poland - as Christ Among Nations.

Great Britain and France are afraid to get involved. America wants nothing to do with it.

Poland dives in - head first.

Poles are great allies, and famous warriors... problem is - they think a bunch of lowlife scum are their friends, instead of their blood brothers.

Every time the scum proves to Poland that they exploit them like a dirty rag - and Poland begs for more.
Bobko  28 | 2881
2 days ago   #602
Poland was so weak back then

Oh... and we were so strong?

Consumed by a Civil War?

White Russians threatening our South, East, and North? The entire world sending legions of volunteers to defeat our government - even if we fought on the same side as them throughout the Great War?

Famine, disease, and huge internal migration?

It was Pilsudski who acted as a hyena.

The Miracle on the Vistula saved him from meeting his maker in that year, and allowed him to die as Polish hero.

He could have just as likely been crucified in the Red Square instead - but fortune favored him.
Torq  22 | 1916
2 days ago   #603
Poland dives in - head first.

Yip.

We go into war even when we know we're going to lose, we go to war for idiotic things like honour, we will go to war with Germany, Russia, China and the devil himself if need be.

blood brothers

The blood brothers, which I don't deny they are, have just tried to murder 500 Polish civilians.

I hope the train driver gets a good bonus and some high railway decoration for his vigilance.

Every time the scum proves to Poland that they exploit them like a dirty rag

I'm not quite sure who do you mean but if it's the EU, then Poland has enjoyed two decades of prosperity unprecedented in her history, in large part thanks to the EU. We've also enjoyed great extent of political and economic freedom and benefited immensely from our membership in practically all areas of everyday life.

we fought on the same side as them throughout the Great War?

It was the Whites, not the Reds, who fought on the same side as them in WW1.

It was Pilsudski who acted as a hyena.

Piłsudski was afraid of the Whites - it was, after all, the tsarist Russia who enslaved Poland. That's why he didn't want to inflict decisive defeat on the Reds. He thought they would be less of a threat than tsarist Russia reborn. Difficult to say whether he was right or wrong.
Novichok  7 | 10921
2 days ago   #604
... Poland - as Christ Among Nations.

...a mental disorder commonly referred to megalomania....

The other patient is America with its messiah complex.
Bobko  28 | 2881
2 days ago   #605
Difficult to say whether he was right or wrong.

Are you kidding me?

White Russia was a fluffy white bear in comparison to the hungry wolf of Red Russia that emerged.

By betraying all Russias - Red and White - Pilsudski became enemy number 1 to all.

He chose wrong.

So did Mannerheim in Finland, and every other former son of Russia who suddenly decided it is time to be free.

Russia fed and educated and clothed Pilsudski and Mannerheim. They rewarded it with a stab in the back.
mafketis  43 | 11821
2 days ago   #606
Let Russians know they are ... not welcome in civilized lands.

Yeah, my idea is return every russian citizen living abroad to russia and let russians know: The only way you're ever getting out of russia again is over the dead bodies of your government.

And buy popcorn....
Torq  22 | 1916
2 days ago   #607
every other former son of Russia who suddenly decided it is time to be free

Yeah, people have this silly tendency to choose freedom, don't they? Go figure.

Pilsudski became enemy number 1 to all

He, he - the Good Marshal, what a legend! :)

I wonder if I can still change the name of my son to Józef. I'll go ask my wife...
mafketis  43 | 11821
2 days ago   #608
wonder if I can still change the name of my son to Józef.

I'm told previous restrictions on names no longer apply so you can make up your own?

Piłsudosław

Piłsudziej

Piłsudeusz

Have at it!
Bobko  28 | 2881
2 days ago   #609
Good Marshal, what a legend!

The Good Marshall was saved by the weather, overstretched logistics, Stalin's stupid decisions, and tired personnel.

This failure nearly ended Stalin's career.

He failed to deploy Budyonny's cavalry (Konarmiya), at a crucial moment to support Tukhachevsky's assault on Warsaw.

Under Khrushchev - it became official - where the Soviet historiography stated - "Stalin 'failed to execute directives from the center' and
'bore responsibility for the defeat near Warsaw.'"

Stalin - through his venality, egotism, and hubris - failed bringing Poland into the USSR.

This... failed the entire global communism project.

If Poland fell - next we would collapse Germany. Instead of waiting twenty years to defeat it through blood and meat.

If we collapsed Germany - the whole world could be ours.
Alien  29 | 7502
2 days ago   #610
the whole world could be ours.

Dreams of a truncated head.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12482
2 days ago   #611
If we collapsed Germany

...currently an (over)ripe fruit, free for the taking.....
Bobko  28 | 2881
2 days ago   #612
Dreams of a truncated head.

The world's historians agree with me - that Poland saved Europe from Bolshevik Revolution.
Alien  29 | 7502
2 days ago   #613
Poland saved Europe from Bolshevik Revolution

I always say that too, but just comparing military forces gives a different answer. Same as now.
Bobko  28 | 2881
2 days ago   #614
Same as now.

Right now - on paper - Poland is stronger than Russia. With its assorted group of friends.

Then it also was stronger.

Nukes being left outside the equation.

And before, Poland was stronger.

Poland was many times stronger than us once - but it never managed to establish its will over us - except for one fateful summer 400 years ago.

Russia - on the other hand - has multiple times erased Poland from the world map.

Who is stronger? Who deserves to lead? Who has the Mandate of Heaven from the Lord Tengri?
mafketis  43 | 11821
2 days ago   #615
ussia - on the other hand

Your mind is a sewer.... and people ask why I despise russian culture.....
Ron2
2 days ago   #616
Is there a chance that Russia adopts a civilized language format in the future? (applies to China too)
Bobko  28 | 2881
2 days ago   #617
people ask why I despise russian culture.....

My point is simple - Russians always collect their debts - sooner or later.

Nobody can hope for things to be forgotten, or gamble on kindness.

Either behave appropriately from the start - or prepare for difficulties in your life.
Novichok  7 | 10921
2 days ago   #618
Your mind is a sewer.... and people ask why I despise russian culture.....

You stupid piece of shlt...You are lucky that Bobko's patience seems like infinity...

Try that crap with me and see how it goes...
cms neuf  1 | 2204
2 days ago   #619
Nukes being left outside the equation.

North Nigeria's famous mathematicians can even include these Nazi NN Nukes in an equation

How about an assumption that NNNN = zero

The grounds being that they don't work, haven't been maintained, have every chance of exploding on launch and no NN losers have the balls to press the button anyway.
Korvinus  8 | 818
2 days ago   #620
The grounds being that they don't work, haven't been maintained, have every chance of exploding on launch

Now it should be even more obvious then ever, since it is pretty much proven. Basically every part of russian military at the beginning of the war, turned out to be completely rotten by corruption. If Russian army was even close to what it was supposed to be on paper, Ukraine should evaporate in a week.

By now after purges and trial by fire, the parts of the military that went through them are obviously in better shape, but the nuclear arsenal is the one part that was completely untouched by war, so it's logical to assume that it's still in the same state as the rest of it were at the beginning of it. Yes, I would expect majority of Russian nukes to not function properly, or even exist only on paper.
Miloslaw  24 | 5702
2 days ago   #621
I hate you Milo.

Why?

You hate me for one reason, because I keep posting the truth which does not fit in with your biased and controlled Pravda style propaganda that you want to believe.

Here is more truth.... do you have the stomach to watch the truth?


Torq  22 | 1916
2 days ago   #622
I would expect majority of Russian nukes to not function properly, or even exist only on paper.

What would you bet on it?

Here is more truth.... do you have the stomach to watch the truth?

Milo... for crying out loud...
Korvinus  8 | 818
2 days ago   #623
What would you bet on it?

If it was up to me, there would have already been Polish intervention in Ukraine.
Jesus H Christ, are you retarded? I understand believing in 2021 that russian weapons are hot sh!t and will kill us all. But now? The fu*ck is wrong with you people?
cms neuf  1 | 2204
2 days ago   #624
What would you bet on it?

A wheelbarrow full of rapidly depreciating North Nigerian Naira
Torq  22 | 1916
2 days ago   #625
If it was up to me, there would have already been Polish intervention in Ukraine.

You didn't read the previous two pages, did you?
Miloslaw  24 | 5702
2 days ago   #626
Milo... for crying out loud...

F Off Torq!

If it was up to me, there would have already been Polish intervention in Ukraine.

Agreed!

Jesus H Christ, are you retarded?

Torq is a complete retard!

Russian protests are continuing, despite the Russian govt trying to supress the protests..... ordinary Russian people have had enough!


mafketis  43 | 11821
2 days ago   #627
ussians always collect their debts - sooner or later.

And what do they do with it? They've never been able to provide a majority of 'citizens' with anything like dignified living conditions....

Money always flows upstream in russia and anyone who supports the system is either stupid or a crook who wants in on fleecing the peasants.

Which are you?
Ironside  53 | 13802
2 days ago   #628
by the weather, overstretched logistics, Stalin's stupid decisions, and tired personnel.

Indeed, all old excuses. You lost, and that's what matters. I wouldn't expect lame excuses from Russians. Well, learning every day.
Korvinus  8 | 818
2 days ago   #629
politico.eu/article/airbus-chair-rene-obermann-calls-european-tactical-nukes-counter-russia/

This war literally showed that everyone needs nukes to feel safe. I'm in favor of Poland holding nukes and delivery methods.
3 nukes. One for M*scow, one for P*ter. One, always, for B*rlin.
Korvinus  8 | 818
2 days ago   #630
By betraying all Russias - Red and White - Pilsudski became enemy number 1 to all.

Whites were hated because they didn't want to recognize Polish independence - this is the reason in fact why Poland did not topple Reds together with them, instead ceasing offensive waiting for Whites to lose. Since Whites were allied to the West it was safer for us to deal with the hated Reds, that couldn't count on aid, rather than classic rus imperialist Whites.

As for non imperialist Russians many have lived here, in fact (personally know three IRL) and they were ok. We would be brotherly nations if it wasn't for this absurd imperialism.


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