Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25

That's a different discussion.

I was just curious why Ron thinks the Baltics are so important.

For Stalin they were important, so that the Baltic Fleet could not be bottled up in the Gulf of Finland.

But now the headquarters of the Baltic Fleet are in Baltiysk, Kaliningrad.

The Baltic ports, like Klaipeda and Riga were important for Russian exports, but since approx 2000 - Russia has built new railroads that bypass those assh*les.

There's nothing there except millions of senior citizens that will lay down like an anchor on our balance sheet.

After Ukraine - what would truly be nice to have - IMHO - are places like Azerbaijan (a good 15% addition to our daily oil production), Armenia (if we're pissing off Turkey, may as well surround it).


Not so junior, while we still have some things to teach them.

There are not many things left, but there is still the atomic power industry, aircraft manufacture, and of course the military.

Just today, this article was published, which I'm sure will make CMS Neuf laugh:

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Would definitely cause a conflict with Turkey.

If I were a Russian imperialist, I would want Kazakhstan and the rest of Central Asia first. They also have vast natural resources (including uranium), and would provide huge buffer zone and demographic boost. In general, I'd concentrate on Asia. Stirring sh*t in Europe can still be costly and potentially very risky with little to gain. The possibilities in Asia are endless.


I read some time ago that in all joint Chinese-Russian military exercises, it was the Russian army that made the better impression. I wonder what conclusions have the Chinese drawn from what they see in Ukraine.

It can be neutralized by Poland within two hours, if needed. In theory, the location is good, but with so limited and detached area, it'd easy to take over by NATO forces.

Of course. We have the experience. Their last experience, was Vietnam mopping the floor with them - with Soviet assistance.


Well, the Financial Times article says they are interested in our airborne forces. Since Taiwan has a complex topography, with few beaches suitable for a large amphibious landing - the Chinese think that the airborne will play an important role.

They are studying our operations in Crimea in 2014, and at Hostomel airport in 2022. In both cases, Russian airborne successfully secured strategic airfields, and managed to hold them until the arrival of reinforcements.

In Crimea, it resulted in the end in a successful and bloodless takeover. Under Kiev, the regular Russian army let the airborne down, and eventually they began to be shelled from all directions by artillery - which damaged the runway, and ruled out the landing of any further aircraft.


The Russian Baltic Fleet has two jobs - mine all of the coastal vicinity, to make it impossible for NATO forces to land (in the short term), and fire off all their missiles at the predesignated targets in Europe.

After that, it can successfully sink, having done its job.

In general - Russia's strategy when it comes to Kaliningrad, is to wave around the nuclear baton. We can't defend it in a conventional sense, so we have to make it prohibitively expensive for Europe to try to invade it.

The best way to do that, is to convince everyone that we will nuke them if they invade Kaliningrad.

Nobody will ever detonate a nuke because the world will then finally realize it is a joke; it's just a big bomb. But the threat keeps people scared.

Who can forget the successful assault on Hostomel - a masterpiece of North Nigerian military planning

No ammo, no GPS, no fuel, no backup and drunk as brush makers before their crappy planes even took off

1. They said one Hiroshima nuclear bomb killed about 100k people.

2. Russia has about 5580 nuclear bombs.

3. There are about 500 cities with a population of 100,000+ in the European Union.

4. Considering technological advances, you'd think that today's nuclear bomb can kill many more people, but let's leave the 80 year technology intact for the sake of the argument

Calculate.

To bomb and flatten ALL EU cities over 100K, Russia would need 500 nuclear weapons. Why would they have 10 times more, considering they have to regularly dismantle them after X years of not being used?

Reason.

Because nuclear weapons are just glorified bombs. Nobody will ever use them or else the world will see the emperors are without clothes.

Added - of course, they may use these bombs in combat, they may even produce the famous "mushroom cloud," but the supposed great damage would not resemble the Hiroshima perspective, UNLESS they use 100 bombs, as they did in Hiroshima, not a single bomb.

It's not just a big bomb.

It's quite literally thousands of times more powerful, than a big bomb.

A very, very big bomb - may contain 1 or 2 tons of explosive material.

A very, very, small nuclear bomb - like the one used at Hiroshima (Little Boy) - has a TNT equivalent power of 15 kilotons. That's 15,000 TONS of TNT.

That is, the Hiroshima bomb - a crude device made in 1945 - was already 7,000 to 15,000 times more powerful than the most powerful bombs.

Modern Russian nuclear devices, average 150-300 kilotons. That is - 10 to 20 TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN HIROSHIMA.

What's more, each missile carries 6 or more of these re-entry vehicles. So one Russian missile, can have an explosive yield of more than a megaton of TNT equivalent. So, it is 60 to a 120 times more powerful than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

I think you are confused.


Very curious to understand what histories you are reading. The rest of the world, knows that only one bomb was dropped on Hiroshima - but Ron2 knows about 100.

Lol.

A modern Russian missile will make Hiroshima look like child's play.


Again - the "nuclear weapons" are warheads, or RE-ENTRY VEHICLES. There can be many, on a single missile.

When you understand this, then you can see that Russia has exactly the amount of nukes it needs.

The multiple re-entry vehicles are necessary, to ensure that the target will be destroyed - regardless of attempts to intercept it.

Watch the real tests of these nuclear bombs, if you still can find videos. Then report back what you saw. Also, meditate on why Russia would need 5580 nuclear bombs if they were so effective.

The rest of the world is confused about a lot of things and there were many more than one bomb dropped on Hiroshima. You severely underestimate the propaganda machine.

I see you are a very stable genius.

You have convinced me - no more arguments from me.

I am in the Polish army, and I can confirm your suspicions. Right now I'm writing from the ORP Żółkiewski, the newest Polish space battleship, armed with over 200 orbital nukes - we're prepared to launch at any moment, and will lead the three-pronged attack, alongside our underwater mecha-hussar division that will soon be emerging in Mariupol, and main land invasion force getting ready to cross the Belarus border.

@Bobko

Russia is a paper tiger, They don't have the powerful weapons you claim they have and if they used any nuclear weapons against NATO, they would be obliterated in hours,,,,

...that used paper clips to kill 1.8 million Ukrainians...during a peace mission. Now imagine if they got seriously pi**ed and declared a real war on Ukraine...5 million?

I would not want to annoy that tiger...


Golden Moron claims that Russian bombs are all rusty junk or cardboard mockups. It's so confusing...

I suggested to him to witness the next test, close up and in person, but he didn't respond...

- The last time the "nuclear bomb" was allegedly used: 1945
- The last time they have threatened people with the nuclear bomb: Today

People, update your reason and you'll understand.

Your distrust is fully justified...

The pretend bomb sent 80,000 pretend Japs to the pretend Jap heaven. More faked their cancer and deaths later...for sympathy...and GoFundMe scams...

Anyhow, Russia is fuc*ed. They will start begging NATO to start the peace talks as soon as they realize that famine is a serious option for their people.

They have teamed up with China and India, the two countries with the highest populations to feed. Wasn't very smart. Now the three will be competing with each other for food, while being ignored by the US and the West.

Are you quoting Hitler?

No, I'm quoting Ronald Reagan.

Reagan was never that stupidly shallow.

Uranium becomes not not so crucial resource for Russia now. Rosatom is expect to close nuclear fuel cycle in 2028 after start of BREST-OD-300 reactor together with on-site fuel reprocessing facilities. So, it is expected that Russia will have depleted uranium reserves ("tails" from enrichment both for military and civil projects ) enough for approximately 2000 years for new generation fast neutron reactors at current electricity production rate.

PS: New reactor technology will offer not just on-site spent fuel reprocessing (but fuel is in reality enriched with fissile materials, not depleted, after that reactors), but also minor actinides, extracted from irradiated fuel, will be "burned" on site in the same reactors, so that reactors will destroy majority of nuclear waste they produce.

Nice!

But some people here will still claim that you are a bunch of drunk orcs unable to find a power button on a flashlight.

Ehh... sometimes I would prefer to be with you instead of with them... but what to do - they are my people (retarded but still). That's life.

Just make sure you have enough of it to drop on the Brits when the time is right.


I can beat that...

A US senator said about AOC: She is the reason why there are instructions on shampoo bottles.

As long as they can unscrew the cork from the bottle... it's all good.

the-express.com/news/world-news/184529/russia-Putin-binge-general

Speaking of drunk orcs it seems the boss of the military has been on the sherbert for 5 days straight. When he sleeps that one off he might regret some of his drunk texting

You tell us. I have my ideas, but prefer to hear your answer.
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Well, I'm not convinced.
I mean, maybe if Russia was doing nothing and out of the blue someone (hm) jumped and tried to grab Kaliningrad, maybe.
Not in a scenario when Russia makes its move against the Baltics or Poland. Then it is obvious they will lose Kaliningrad. I doubt Moscow would use nukes.
How about some little green people everybody denies association with took over that region, and a referendum held would ask to join with Poland. Another scenario when nukes are rather out of the question.
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If you are in the Polish Army, what are you doing in space? There operate Polish space Marines.
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If that works, it would be a nice achievement. Are you sure it's not some Russian con and the waste is dumped in the river? Only asking. I think Poland would like that technology. ( not dumping into the river part)
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Of all life situations, the most advantageous is when your enemy overestimates your faults; the only thing better than that is when your friend underestimates your virtues. ;)

Heh :)

I've always said you're all right, tankists. *high five*

@Ron2
As a Russian, I disagree. It's time to divide Poland once again! Schools on the border with Poland have been turned into barracks, commandants have already been appointed to your cities, and a lot of military equipment has been pulled to your border. The troops are waiting for the order.