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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25


PolAmKrakow  3 | 1055
21 Sep 2025   #301
@Bratwurst Boy
Neither could I. And just what does it say about Zelensky with no comment on Iryna? The silence is deafening.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12458
21 Sep 2025   #302
The silence is deafening.

What to say!

He could have at least permitted her father to travel to her funeral....that would had been some kind of acknowledgement.
mafketis  43 | 11732
21 Sep 2025   #303
can anyone find a link where Zelensky condems the murder of Iryna Zarutska?

Why would he? It would be de facto criticism of the US that couldn't keep her safe.Then Vance and company would crawl over his @ss for not saying 'thank you' enough.

And there are Ukrainians being killed everyday by russians in Ukraine which have priority.

Any acknowledgement of her death is probably in Ukrainian which means no one here can really access it.

A good assignment for you and google translate....
Velund  1 | 521
21 Sep 2025   #304
Curious opinion...


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PolAmKrakow  3 | 1055
21 Sep 2025   #305
@mafketis
Wjhy would he? A real leader would have the balls to say something about someone from the country he leads. Trump said something, everyone but Zelensky said something. There is zero from him or his administration anywhere in Ukraine.

@Bratwurst Boy
Not letting the father attend says all you need to know about him as a man.
OP Novichok  8 | 10617
21 Sep 2025   #306
And just what does it say about Zelensky with no comment on Iryna?

She died because nobody gave her an intro to America's dark side.

I would need only 10 minutes and this beautiful woman would be alive today. My first sentence would be: Never, ever be alone with ni**gers on a bus, train, or in an elevator...

NEVER! To these animals, America is a safari, and you are the prey. The whiter the better...
Ironside  53 | 13725
21 Sep 2025   #307
Zelensky

I, for one, am on his side. It is a significant issue in the U.S. because of the crimes of Black people against white victims, and so on. Meanwhile, in the rest of the world, there's yet another crazy criminal who has killed a person for no reason.

Zelensky has a war on his plate; people are dying by the millions (by now). I don't know if he has commented on this case or not. If he hasn't, so what?

He has a war to wage, not to cater to U.S. sensibilities and expectations.
OP Novichok  8 | 10617
21 Sep 2025   #308
in the U.S. because of the crimes of Black people against white victims,

Iron, did you cross over to the other side?

Or are you just testing if I am reading your posts?
mafketis  43 | 11732
21 Sep 2025   #309
Not letting the father attend says all you need to know about him as a man.

you're repeating a russian lie....

ukrinform.ua/rubric-society/4037398-batko-vbitoi-u-ssa-ukrainki-irini-zaruckoi-pribuv-do-ssa-abi-poprosatisa-z-donkou-demcenko.html
OP Novichok  8 | 10617
21 Sep 2025   #310
He has a war to wage, not to cater to U.S. sensibilities and expectations.

She was a Ukrainian, not American.

We don't have a dog in this fight expept that her death helped Trump in a big way.

Another benefit: fewer immigrants in the future...as only suicidal azzholes will apply to come to this lawless unmanageable shlthole.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12458
21 Sep 2025   #311
you're repeating a russian lie....

Thanks for the link!

...At the same time, he reported that Iryna Zarutska's father was provided with assistance in obtaining the necessary documents to enter the country of destination.

"I can now state that the other day he did leave Ukraine on humanitarian grounds, he is being provided with consular assistance. And, in fact, he has already arrived in the United States of America, where he will be able to say goodbye to his daughter," Demchenko said. ...

Now that was a kind of misinformation in the english Google-world (that he wasn't allowed to)....the Ukrainians should take care to translate that!
jon357  76 | 25156
21 Sep 2025   #312
But keep always in mind the next really true, very important informer, with maybe war deciding informations....sitting right now in front of his computer, thinking hard about defecting

Those who have to analyse information keep a lot in mind, are usually good at deciding what's true and what isn't (though they can and do get it wrong) and tend to have a very informed scepticism about information received, especially when it's second or third hand.

What they don't do is take everything at face value, With very good reason.

thousands of these children are located every month in labor camps and prostitution rings

Tell us more.

President Zelensky condems the murder of Iryna Zarutska?

Presidents of countries rarely comment on crimes against private citizens overseas.

When that American guy was killed outside the nightclub in Piaseczno, did their President comment?

no comment on Iryna? The silence is deafening.

He's the Pesident of a country currently at water. Not a journalist, not a populist demagogue, not a reality show star and not a hyper-online internet influencer.

It would be odd if he commented publicly.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 874
21 Sep 2025   #313
BB, I don't typically post links, but if you're interested, you can find all the information you need by paying attention to the voices of reason available across America every day. Pam Bondi, the U.S. Attorney General, often cites statistics about thousands of lost children being rescued from slavery and prostitution.

ICE is depicted as a hero, liberating these individuals, yet they're portrayed as villains by people like Jon. Are you not aware of the highly publicized recent raid at a farming operation in California, where ICE rescued dozens of underage children who were being used as slave labor? Come on, BB, what information are they sharing with you in Europe?
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12458
21 Sep 2025   #314
Come on, BB, what information are they sharing with you in Europe?

Frankly I have never heard or read a thing about liberated children, rescued from slavery in the US....hence such a thing comes quite as a shock.
jon357  76 | 25156
21 Sep 2025   #315
yet they're portrayed as villains by people like Jon

Get a grip on yourself.

This thread is about the war, not that nutcase Bondi.

And not even about:

thousands of these children are located every month in labor camps and prostitution rings

OP Novichok  8 | 10617
21 Sep 2025   #316
ICE is depicted as a hero,

...because they are...trying to nail potentially armed and violent scum while fighting off a mob of LGBT and pro-migrant azzholes with the ACLU lawyers watching their every step.

The US needs a state of national emergency with ICE having unlimited access to every square inch ...without search warrants...hospitals, churches, and private homes included.

I would welcome them in mine.

Tomorrow, I will call to find out if I can help them in any way.

slavery

Modern slavery is technically different.

Nobody owns you,but you can't leave because you are illegal, broke, and the bad guys know where your family lives.
PolAmKrakow  3 | 1055
21 Sep 2025   #317
@Ironside
You make excuses for him. He is a biatch for not saying something and a POS for not letting her father attend the funeral. He isnt fighting anyone, he is sitting in a palace while real men fight and die and he was supossed to be the president that made peace with Russia. Fvcking tired of this POS being praised for doing nothing. Let me see him with a gun on the front lines. All he does is pass the buck on his commanders that he hires and fires at will.
jon357  76 | 25156
21 Sep 2025   #318
This is a new low for Putler.

It wouldn't be a surprise if he'd been recruiting from hospitals for the criminally insane too, like the Dirlewanger Brigade.

Russia has formed units made up of soldiers infected with HIV, hepatitis and other diseases and sent them into battle, Ukrainian military experts have said.

Soldiers in these units wear armbands marking them out as sick, and have been spotted on the frontlines around Pokrovsk, a key logistics hub in eastern Ukraine that has been the focus of a prolonged and bloody assault by the Kremlin, they told The Telegraph.

"There is currently information that these units are participating in fighting in what is currently the hottest spot - Pokrovsk," said Dmytro Zhmailo, executive director of the Ukrainian Security and Cooperation Centre (USCC), a Ukrainian think tank with close links to the military.


And

The formation of these units within the Russian military is the latest sign of a deepening health crisis, with cases of HIV, hepatitis and tuberculosis soaring among Vladimir Putin's troops.

One Russian unit also recently suffered an outbreak of a deadly haemorrhagic fever that causes those who catch it to bleed from the eyes, and even the tightly controlled Russian media has begun to report on a "hidden epidemic" of illnesses affecting troops in Ukraine.


telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/putin-sends-squads-of-sick-soldiers-into-pokrovsk-meat-grin/
OP Novichok  8 | 10617
21 Sep 2025   #319
Let me see him with a gun on the front lines.

He won't do it because his green costume might get stained.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 874
21 Sep 2025   #320
about information received, especially when it's second or third hand.

What do you mean by second or third hand? Since when is the US Attorney General and her statistics are considered second or third hand? Wake up Jon,
What the hell is your source of information?

But I couldn't find any links about camps with prostituted immigrant children either....

Because there are no prostitution camps, those are private small operations often involving just a few people, but what is the difference for an abused child.
Big operations are well protected and hard to bring into the sunlight. Not least daily, one can read about arrested human debris
sexually abusing children, many of them defenseless children, parentless migrants, who "miraculously" disappeared during the Biden administration,
now being discovered and rescued. The Biden administration's policy resulted in giving the children to sexual predators posing as sponsors, without any background checks.So, BB, no need for links
Just listen to the proper channels. Try to remember I don't purposely lie, unless I am joking
OP Novichok  8 | 10617
21 Sep 2025   #321
What the hell is your source of information?

I know but can't tell since PF is PG-13.
Korvinus  8 | 769
21 Sep 2025   #322
x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/1969212902029595045

Just heard a story from a Ex-CIA guy that explains why "nobody likes the Israelis". There was a US couple from the feds, that moved to Israel to work there. She in the embassy, doing some economics works, he took a course at the University of Tel Aviv.

So shortly after they moved in the Israelis went into their apartment and just emptied out all all closets, trashed their furniture, home invasion style. Apparently just to send a message that they can do what ever they want, but I suspect also to look through their ****.

A few weeks later some Israelis came back and took a **** in all of their toilets and didn't flush.

And shortly before they moved back into the US again, they got into the apartment and cut off their pet dogs tail...
Przelotnyptak1  - | 874
21 Sep 2025   #323
This thread is about the war, not that nutcase Bondi.

The solitary nutcase is out of the reservation, Jon yelping at the ankles of the distinguished Attorney General Pam Bondi-actually, anybody of sound mind.
OP Novichok  8 | 10617
21 Sep 2025   #324
Jon yelping at the ankles of the distinguished Attorney General Pam Bondi

...because to him women are useless...
jon357  76 | 25156
21 Sep 2025   #325
What do you mean by second or third hand? Since when is the US Attorney

You're confusing two things.

Just heard a story from a Ex-CIA guy

Twitter gossip, and irrelevant.

What is relevant is that Putler is currently pretending to test NATO responses to mi or provocations. 19 drones over Poland. 12 minutes in a jet over Estonia.

He knows already that the response will be zero. He is doing it for another very clear reason. He hopes that free countries in NATO will start concentrating support and resources in those places at the cost of supporting Ukraine.

The latest incursion over Germany (they do much the same in UK airspace sometimes) is being done to distract and to cause panic. No other reason.
Korvinus  8 | 769
21 Sep 2025   #326
Twitter gossip, and irrelevant.

Learning about Marxism is key. Also learning about the Talmud. Also the USS Liberty. None of these things are conspiracies just facts that even mainstream sources will own up to.
19 drones over Poland.

Wrong thread.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 874
21 Sep 2025   #327
no comment on Iryna? The silence is deafening.
He's the Pesident of a country currently at water.

Oh yeah, Jon, in other words, a scuba diver, and you correct my mistakes.
OP Novichok  8 | 10617
21 Sep 2025   #328
Also the USS Liberty.

I am shocked that the PF website didn't instantly crash...

Israel...the only country that is permitted to kill Americans without objection and retaliation.

Now I am impressed, Korvinus...
jon357  76 | 25156
21 Sep 2025   #329
Wrong thread.

Very much the right thread, since they were very much sent by r*SSia to attempt to concentrate the attention off NATO countries (and hopefully provoke dissent) rather than on the business in hand, Ukraine.

Meanwhile, Ukraine are pushing forward rather well.
OP Novichok  8 | 10617
21 Sep 2025   #330
Ukraine are pushing forward rather well.

...West...

Ukrainian heaven is full. Stop pushing.


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