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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25


jon357  76 | 25157
20 Sep 2025   #271
Remember Epstein himself said in a leaked dialogue

Sounds like fiction.

Tell us more about this child you claim has been trafficked.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 874
20 Sep 2025   #272
Tell us more about this child you claim has been trafficked.

Defending disgusting practices like a true believer forces me to ask a question: Are you a sponsor by any chance?
jon357  76 | 25157
20 Sep 2025   #273
disgusting practices

What 'practices'?
OP Novichok  8 | 10617
20 Sep 2025   #274
FSB detains man dressed as elderly lady in 'Ukrainian bomb plot'
The would-be assassin tried to plant a bomb under the target's car in St. Petersburg, the agency said


Didn't I say to shoot transgenders on sight?

If you can hate yourself, you will hate everybody and everything, including your country...
Ironside  53 | 13725
20 Sep 2025   #275
Eating horses is like eating dogs - barbarism.

Less drama. Horse meat is healthy and good for you, and tasty too. Poles used to eat it a lot; kabanos was originally made only from horse meat.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 874
20 Sep 2025   #276
What 'practices'?

Don't play dumb when it is convenient; you and half of the world are aware of child slave labor, or children as sex slaves, a very desired material in your social circles. Is that the reason you staunchly defend the dirty underworld, pretending you are blind and wish to put the blindfolds on the rest of the population?
It is exactly the same as pretending that the tiny minority of the trans population is currently not committing most of the hateful, politically motivated murders.
jon357  76 | 25157
20 Sep 2025   #277
child slave labor, or children as sex slaves

Follow the thread. He is saying something defamatory about Jewish people and hasn't backed up his appalling claim.
Velund  1 | 521
21 Sep 2025   #278
something defamatory about Jewish people

Do you think it is possible combination of words now?
Korvinus  8 | 769
21 Sep 2025   #279
and hasn't backed up his appalling claim

Giving evidence to Jon is akin to answering Novi's "questions". IE exercise in futility.
Ironside  53 | 13725
21 Sep 2025   #280
Jewish people

Does he? Throughout history, Jews were involved at significant rates in deportation, slavery, and exploitation, including human trafficking. While it does not imply that others did not participate in these roles, historically, the percentage of Jews in these situations was much higher than that of the average European population. Those are facts. Furthermore, coincidentally, Epstein was also Jewish. You say it is a coincidence and irrelevant, while Korvinus refers to it as a significant factor. Just agree to disagree without judgmental comments. With your attitude, next, you will call him racist and fascist, being a predictably boring progressive one-track mind bot.
You can do better. I believe in you.
jon357  76 | 25157
21 Sep 2025   #281
much higher than that of the average European population. Those are facts

Show us some sources for your pretend 'facts'.

So tell us about this non-existent child trafficking
PolAmKrakow  3 | 1056
21 Sep 2025   #282
A Russian defector is now saying that an attackon Poland is being planned before Christmas to test NATO response and resolve. Three news outlets reported this. I think if this happens that NATO should flatten Kaliningrad and destroy whats left of the Black Sea fleet. Some of those great kenetic strikes they are using on the drug boats would send a message. While I am surprised by this, I think it would usher in a revolt from regular Russians and his people couold turn on him if WW3 looks like it may start.
jon357  76 | 25157
21 Sep 2025   #283
Every possible scenario and outcome has been gamed many times and there are contingencies for all possibilities
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12458
21 Sep 2025   #284
to test NATO response and resolve.

I really hope NATO uses the time till then to actually have a real answer ready!

Estonia requests NATO Article 4 consultations

Russian jets in Estonian airspace: Estonia intends to address this incident within NATO and is requesting consultations under Article 4. Poland recently requested such talks. Russia denied the incident.

Estonia is requesting consultations under Article 4 of the NATO treaty. The reason is a violation of airspace by Russia, as Estonian Prime Minister Kristen Michal announced on X. NATO announced that member states will address the incident early next week....

A good place to to start...or end things....
cms neuf  1 | 2186
21 Sep 2025   #285
Fair enough PolAn that you start to see the truth about the North Nigerians

Until quite recently you were saying they would never attack Poland because of Fort Trump, Polish American voters, Rzeszow etc.

I think it's more likely that the military would revolt than a popular uprising - most NNs are brain dead after years of spoon feeding and would never want to upset the Tsar
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12458
21 Sep 2025   #286
Thing is (seems to be at least) Putin did take away from the last meeting that Trump won't do anything!

One month after US President Trump's meeting with Vladimir Putin, insiders reveal: The Russian leader is sticking rigidly to his strategy. This is partly because he considers Trump inactive.

Vladimir Putin is firmly sticking to his strategy of waging a war of attrition against Ukraine until the West abandons its opponent. This is reported by the Bloomberg news agency, citing several Kremlin insiders. Putin, they say, remains firmly convinced of victory. The West's actions have not convinced the Russian leader to abandon his strategy, they say.

The meeting with US President Donald Trump in mid-August is said to have made a significant contribution to this. Putin, the insiders say, does not believe Trump will "do much" to strengthen Ukraine's defenses. In fact, Trump has no interest in intervening in the war, according to the Kremlin.....

focus.de/politik/ausland/insider-enthuellen-wie-putin-nach-dem-trump-treffen-wirklich-ueber-den-krieg-denkt_1e9c6caf-9ef2-40c4-af8f-79be38f89402.html

Then these provocations make sense....now that the US are out of his way, Europe is next.....starting with some easily deniable airspace-violatons....but it won't stop here! Thats just the beginning....we are in now!
mafketis  43 | 11732
21 Sep 2025   #287
ussian defector is now saying that an attackon Poland is being planned before Christmas

I doubt if that will happen now...

It's never clear whether a russian defector is a real defector or a plant and defectors also tend to be notorious for wild stories that don't pan out.

It's very clear that russian wants to attack NATO (the logic of putin's government makes that inevitable) but probably not so directly but by causing discord....

My best guess is still the Baltics an attempt to 'take' Narva or Daugavpils quickly (or just cross the border into the Suwałki gap and hunker down without taking any populated areas) and then count on Hungarian fatso Orban and/or wannabe mafioso Fico veto any NATO action.

US power in Europe doesn't exist outside of NATO so the US will face China and russia on its own.... (Trump plans to break russia and china apart are transparently awful and doomed to failure).
PolAmKrakow  3 | 1056
21 Sep 2025   #288
@cms neuf
Let me be clear, I have never said Russia should win, only that Ukraine cannot win, and they cant. Russia is never giving the land back to Ukraine. So men on both sides are dying needlessly.

a real defector or a plant

Exactly what I was thinking too. But it makes sense with all these airpsace violations taking place. I hope its not true, but if it is, and it happens, the response should be overwhelming and decisive.
jon357  76 | 25157
21 Sep 2025   #289
I doubt if that will happen now...

Apparently, it's an unnamed defector (allegedly a major general) .who may not exist, talking about a limited 'greyzone' strike to test NATO's response and trigger political destabilisation in Europewith conventional. Allegedly sent through an Eastern European ally during the DSEI arms fair in London last week,

Nothing confirmed, and not Pearl Harbour or Westerplatte.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12458
21 Sep 2025   #290
Nothing confirmed,

So....not believing a defector? Doubting his informations? Doubting his existence at all?

Hmmm...now why would I doubt the success of such a strategy???
jon357  76 | 25157
21 Sep 2025   #291
not believing a defector? Doubting his informations? Doubting his existence at all?

The claims are (according to the newspaper that reported it) urgently being analysed.

Believe nothing, test everything, or at the very most, доверяй, но проверяй.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12458
21 Sep 2025   #292
...yeah....always a good mantra....but we will in the future depend abit on informers and defectors! They should know its worthy, that they will be welcomed and rewarded here, not doubted or badly treated....or many won't dare to take that risk for their own life and their loved ones!

Its back to the Cold War, with all its rules...
jon357  76 | 25157
21 Sep 2025   #293
depend abit on informers and defectors

Unfortunately so many over the years have turned out to be a bit crap.

According to the newspaper report (in a tabloid), nobody has met him and the information was passed second or third hand from a source in Eastern Europe.

It could be genuine, however it may well not to be.

Believe noth8ng, test everything.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12458
21 Sep 2025   #294
Believe noth8ng, test everything.

But keep always in mind the next really true, very important informer, with maybe war deciding informations....sitting right now in front of his computer, thinking hard about defecting, and reading this....trying to decide "should I or should I not"....

To keep them coming abit of "advanced trust" will be necessary....even if the chance to be taken for a fool is always present. IMHO there is no way around it.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 874
21 Sep 2025   #295
[So, tell us about this non-existent child trafficking.

Your question is as absurd as discussing the existence of the invisible air you are breathing right now. You don't have to look far for evidence; the invasion at our Southern border serves as clear proof of the very real issue of child trafficking, with millions of unaccompanied children crossing our border. Hundreds of thousands have disappeared with an unknown fate to this day, a consequence of the leftist policies under Biden and the millions of blindly loyal followers like you, Jon.

Thanks to the tireless efforts of our law enforcement, thousands of these children are located every month in labor camps and prostitution rings. And you, Jon, have the audacity to question something so evident?
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12458
21 Sep 2025   #296
Thanks to the tireless efforts of our law enforcement, thousands of these children are located every month in labor camps and prostitution rings

Serious question here....any links? Any infos about that? That would be shocking!
PolAmKrakow  3 | 1056
21 Sep 2025   #297
Serious question here...can anyone find a link where Zelensky condems the murder of Iryna Zarutska? You know, for all the Zelensky blind followers.
Ironside  53 | 13725
21 Sep 2025   #298
Show us some sources for your pretend 'facts'.

It is not my duty to educate you. It is not exactly a secret. If you don't know those facts, just learn about them. Instead of making ignorance a virtue.
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So tell us about this non-existent child trafficking

About that practical issue, I have no idea. I wasn't commenting on the case or cases. I was talking about Jews historically connected to such activities
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Ironside  53 | 13725
21 Sep 2025   #299
As to Russia. Why did you all wake up now? I was talking about that for years. It was obvious they were up to something, and sooner or later, they will act.

The funny thing is, all that recent Russian activity and actions imply that they are weak and getting weaker. That is the standard Russian response. They don't want war with NATO; rather, they gamble, or more precisely, they make an educated guess that the US and NATO will remain passive and won't pose a substantial threat.

If the US and NATO were to press for a major strike against Russia, you would see how quickly Russia would change its tune.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12458
21 Sep 2025   #300
can anyone find a link where Zelensky condems the murder of Iryna Zarutska?

Nope...I couldn't find any....

But I couldn't find any links about camps with prostituted immigrant children either....


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