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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 24


Torq  19 | 1809
8 Aug 2025   #121
are you trying to make all your enemies die of bordedom?

I suspect that's the whole point of prolonging the Donbass War. 3 years - are you kidding me? It's like Greek-Italian war in WW2 but without Hitler ever intervening and Greeks and Italians fighting for years on end.

Hence my hopes for the Zapad exercise. *fingers crossed*
Miloslaw  25 | 5728
8 Aug 2025   #122
More pathetic Russian military.........
The Russian military is just a joke....and their claims that Russia is one of the most powerful military in the world is obviously a lie.

Russians lie....... nothing changes......
cms neuf  1 | 2181
8 Aug 2025   #123
So the NNs have not given up assaulting Pokrovsk - in fact in the last 3 days they launched 147 world war 1 style attacks. Ground gained ? Er...zilch, nada.

Still there will be some good overtime in the Pelmeni factory so those poor bastards can get a good send off back in Omsk.

Absolutely senseless - I wonder if when this is over the NN sheeple will put their rapist thieving officers on trial for these suicidal charges ?
Miloslaw  25 | 5728
8 Aug 2025   #124
Russia is a spent force.Every claim that Russia has a powerful military is now seen as a joke and a lie.

Russians always lie.....


Miloslaw  25 | 5728
8 Aug 2025   #125
Hey Novichock (Rich Mazur) , I know you hate my videos of Ukrainian successes against the Russians.

So why don't you post some videos of Russian successes against the Ukrainians?
Novichok  7 | 10419
8 Aug 2025   #126
Russian teens sweep gold at global AI contest
The second International Olympiad on Artificial Intelligence for middle school students was held in China from August 2-8


Those dumb Mongols...Must have bribed the judges...

In the meantime, American boys proudly compete with the girls...and win!...Congratulations!
Novichok  7 | 10419
9 Aug 2025   #127
Putin will fly to America NEXT WEEK in his first visit for a decade, says Trump as he confirms the surprise state that will host summit

Memo to the ICC:

Take your arrest warrant, roll it, and shove it up your ICC asses.

Greetings from America...


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PolAmKrakow  3 | 980
9 Aug 2025   #128
So Vlad and Don will make a deal to cement Russian gains, and the US will get access to minerals that Ukraine made a deal on. Ukraine will get a cease fire, and Z will be able to nseak off to Florida and retire on the millions he has likely packed away in suit cases. Crimea will go back to its resort destination, and the recycling business for steel will be a generational investment opportunity.

Alaska. What a perfect reminder that Russia sold it to the US so long ago, and one Russian dummy mentioned taking it back by force, and here comes Vlad to a land that was once Russian, and never will be again. Symbolic that he is coming to the US and not UAE I think.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12330
9 Aug 2025   #129
Oooookaaaaay.....BILD's inside sources again:

"Peaceful withdrawal": Did Trump's man misunderstand Putin?

(sadly not a free article)
archive.is/20250809085506/bild.de/politik/ausland-und-internationales/friedlicher-rueckzug-hat-trumps-mann-putin-falsch-verstanden-6895de301174f91cb081eb54#selection-2161.0-2169.40

Berlin/Washington - Speculation is mounting following the agreement on a Ukraine peace summit between US President Donald Trump (79) and Vladimir Putin (72) next week in Alaska. While it appeared on Thursday that Trump negotiator Steve Witkoff (68) had made progress in his meeting with Putin, this is now being put into perspective.

According to BILD information, even before the peace summit on August 15, the Kremlin has not deviated from its maximum demand of completely controlling the five Ukrainian regions of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia, Kherson, and Crimea before the guns fall silent.

The Russian side has only suggested "sectoral ceasefires" - such as a mutual renunciation of attacks against energy facilities or major cities behind the front lines. However, this has by no means meant a halt to major Russian offensives along the front lines....


One would think the translators know their languages....

In return, the US offered to freeze the conflict along the current front - in return for the extensive lifting of sanctions and new economic agreements with Russia. According to BILD, this offer was rejected by the Kremlin.

Worse still: Trump's special envoy, Vitkoff, completely misunderstood some of the Russians' statements and thus misinterpreted them as a concession from Putin. He misinterpreted Russia's demand for a "peaceful withdrawal" of Ukrainians from Kherson and Zaporizhia as an offer of a "peaceful withdrawal" by the Russians from these very regions....


That doesn't sound good!

..."Witkoff doesn't know what he's talking about," a Ukrainian government official told BILD.

According to BILD, this assessment is also shared by German government officials. According to the report, a telephone conference took place Thursday evening between representatives of the US government - including Special Envoy Witkoff, Secretary of State Marco Rubio (54), and Vice President JD Vance (41) - and the European partners. As BILD learned, the American side was perceived as chaotic and disunited.

This was primarily due to Witkoff, whose remarks about his conversation with Putin in the Kremlin on Wednesday were perceived as confusing. He himself appeared overwhelmed and incompetent to the Europeans when discussing the territorial issues in Ukraine.

There was also apparently disagreement between Witkoff and Rubio about the next steps, as the Secretary of State emphasized that the Europeans should be involved in the further process, while Vance and Witkoff merely wanted to inform Europe about the results of Trump's further steps.


....yeah....european matters can be abit confusing, if one doesn't know their history.....I wonder if these rumours are true!
Torq  19 | 1809
9 Aug 2025   #130
One would think the translators know their languages....

Witkoff doesn't know what he's talking about

Retards... retards everywhere.

This is all so tiresome.
Novichok  7 | 10419
9 Aug 2025   #131
Symbolic that he is coming to the US ...

...and I love it...

I wonder who is going to greet him...Rubio, JD, Trump...

Or Paulina with the ICC arrest warrant...
Novichok  7 | 10419
9 Aug 2025   #132
european matters can be abit confusing, if one doesn't know their history.

Japanese history was confusing and perplexing...

That problem was solved with a couple of nukes and a very big American fist...plus unconditional surrender...

I like simple.
Ironside  52 | 13614
9 Aug 2025   #133
Japanese history was confusing and perplexing...

I see you are advocating for the US to drop some nukes on Russia. What happened to you? Did you have a ministroke, or have you finally woken up?
Novichok  7 | 10419
9 Aug 2025   #134
I see you are advocating for the US to drop some nukes on Russia

Quote me. Your inferences don't count.

From your last post I infer that English is a mystery to you or that your eyesight is beyond repair.

Japan =/= Russia. Read my post again .... slowly...
Ironside  52 | 13614
9 Aug 2025   #135
that English is a mystery to you

English has nothing to do with this. Instead of backpedaling and making silly remarks, why don't you own the context of your post? If you speak nonsense, admit that you are talking nonsense. If you genuinely believe it, then my logical inference is correct.
Your inferences don't count.

It is a logical conclusion based on the context of your post: regardless of how complex or difficult the situation may be, the U.S. tends to use its significant power to achieve its goals-whether dealing with Japan, the EU, or Russia.

Oh, are you suggesting that your power isn't as formidable when the other side possesses nuclear weapons as well? Sounds like cowardly bullying to me.
mafketis  43 | 11713
9 Aug 2025   #136
One would think the translators know their languages....

first time in russia iinm he didn't bring his own translator..... incredibly stupid

does anyone here know why each side should have their own translators/interpreters?

and he used an unsecured phone..... again incredibly stupid
Novichok  7 | 10419
9 Aug 2025   #137
Oh, are you suggesting

One more time...

I suggest, imply, insinuate nothing. The only thing that counts is what I post. Want to read between the lines? Go ahead...your conclusions and your problem if they are wrong.

Only scared Euro bootlickers suggest, imply, and insinuate.
Bobko  28 | 2798
9 Aug 2025   #138
What a perfect reminder that Russia sold it to the US so long ago

There's a persistent myth, among the Russian population, that the ship carrying the gold (America paid us in gold) sunk on its return trip. Meaning that Russia actually sold Alaska to the US for NOTHING!

I was probably already 30 when I finally understood what happened.

In the end - the story is sort of half true... The money never made it to Russia, but not due to a ship sinking, but because it was all spent in Britain. The money was used to buy railroad equipment for the Kursk-Kiev, Ryazan-Kozlov, Moscow-Ryazan lines.

--//--

At the time, it didn't seem like such a terrible decision. In America, contemporaries called it Seward's Folly - meaning even the Americans weren't sure it was a good investment.

Now we know it was probably one of the worst business decisions in the history of business. Within just two decades of us selling it, the Yukon Gold Rush began.

So we sold land at $0.02 an acre, literally just before a goddamn gold rush.

Events of the twentieth century just made the heartburn 10 times worse. Enormous oil field discoveries. Huge gas fields...

In the future, as the Arctic keeps thawing, America will probably gain trillions of dollars more of resources off the continental shelf.

-//-

Meanwhile, we sold Alaska for $7.2M dollars - which even today works out to only $150-200M. Basically the price of a single strategic bomber which Ukraine destroys with toy drones.

-//-

Ughhh... the pain of the Alaska sale... Made only better when you realize that retardus maximus Napoleon sold nearly half the Continental US to Thomas Jefferson for $15M.

At least we didn't do something as idiotic as the French.

The money they made from selling some of the best agricultural land on the planet didn't make one iota of difference to their war in Europe, but it set the United States on course for superpowerdom.
Alien  29 | 7274
9 Aug 2025   #139
Now we know it was probably one of the worst business decisions in the history

Sell America part of the moon. 🤔
Bobko  28 | 2798
9 Aug 2025   #140
Reading strange reports that Trump and Putin will touch on the Ukrainian question only tangentially during their meeting in Alaska.

What the heck?!

But... but... what?

Supposedly - and this comes from a Telegram channel which publishes approx. 50% schizophrenic nonsense, and 50% credible info - this is due to potential European and Ukrainian foot dragging.

Even Trump understands that without a Ukrainian sign on, and European blessing, this deal won't go very far. Consequently, he's pretty frustrated that Zelensky doesn't want to play ball.

This is why the meetings supposed to happen in the UAE were scrapped. Also, yesterday's press conference given by Zelensky - put the final nail in the coffin of the "land swap deal".

So Trump (taking on largely a Russian interpretation of what's happening), wants to start applying pressure on Zelensky to get it done. The way he chooses to do this, is by showing that Russia and the US will not wait forever, before beginning to patch up their relations.

Exhibit A, in demonstrating to Zelensky that he does not hold the American tiger by the tail - is that this meeting will be branded more as an "Russo-American Bilateral Summit". The substance of much of the announcements will be "economic".

Supposedly, something very attractive proposed by the Russians to Witkoff several months ago, and finally inked with Witkoff during his recent visit to Moscow.

-//-

Insane world. If somebody proposed to me a week ago that Trump and Putin will meet, in Alaska, and will largely avoid discussing Ukraine - I would have said that person is dreaming.
amiga500  6 | 1815
9 Aug 2025   #141
look at the pentagon orders to fufill their emergency stockpiles. empower mossad trump will pressure the ukis hard to accept the deal... any deal... as long as he has a temporary win.
Bobko  28 | 2798
9 Aug 2025   #142
No one really knows what the "economic accord" between Russia and the US might look like, that Trump promises will make us all fantastically wealthy beyond our wildest expectations.

He's mentioned it once or twice, and Witkoff said some things too - but all vague.

Most of the expert analysis I read on the subject proposes these hypothetical deals:

1) Russia contracts to buy hundreds, or maybe even as much as a thousand Boeing airliners over the next decade or so. Starved of parts, and unable to order new planes - our airlines are in major need of this. Our own domestic import-substituted airplane is facing delays and cost overruns. Win-Win. Trump can celebrate bringing hundreds of billions of dollars in orders for American manufacturing, and Putin saves his airline industry.

2) "Mineral Deal" on steroids. Russia opens up strategic mining sectors to American investment. Long term supply agreements for key minerals like cobalt, palladium, titanium, etc. Win-win. America gets supply chain security for its EV and aerospace industries, while Russia attracts much need foreign investment into our mining sector.

3) Nuclear deals. This seems to be no-brainer. Russia will go back to supplying fuel to American power plants, and maybe effect some technology exchange, since we actually lead Westinghouse in most aspects.

4) Space. Collaborate on some lunar mission, or new international space lab.

5) The Arctic. Access for American companies to the Russian Arctic shelf, and its gas and oil deposits. Helping America with icebreaker fleets, and navigation along the Northern Sea Route.

6) Education. Partnerships between American and Russian universities, where with state help American universities are allowed to set up shop in Russia through "branch" outfits, as in Dubai and Singapore. Win-win. Hundreds of millions of dollars in fat fees for American educational institutions, and much needed international talent brought in to train our kids.
Novichok  7 | 10419
9 Aug 2025   #143
At least we didn't do something as idiotic as the French.

The deal that will top both you mentioned...

The US gives English-speaking Canada a month to separate itself and join the US as the 51st ... or all trading, flights, and tourism stop cold turkey, the border is closed, and Canada is on its own, militarily speaking...

Novi for President...

7) The US invades Europe from the West. Russia takes Europe from the East. When the invasions are completed, cleanup...all blacks and Muslims out to their shltholes or Siberia, with men and women in separate camps.
mafketis  43 | 11713
9 Aug 2025   #144
make us all fantastically wealthy beyond our wildest expectations

dream on.... the extractive one percent will steal it all, as always happens

if russians weren't so addicted to theft then they might have a decent country.... as it is, however.....
amiga500  6 | 1815
9 Aug 2025   #145
bobko whatever trump and putin agree, zelensky with the europeans will say nyet. so how is this problem to be solved? hmmm. the guy in south vietnam comes to mind..
Novichok  7 | 10419
9 Aug 2025   #146
if russians weren't so addicted to theft then they might have a decent country..

When a car is stolen in America, at the top of the suspect list are Poles.

Blacks prefer carjackings...More fun, less work...immediate gratification...

zelensky with the europeans will say nyet. so how is this problem to be solved?

How is fvck off in Russian? I know in English.

Also: Go get your natural gas and oil from Brazil...The US and Russia are running low so we can't sell any to you, stupid Euros....

I am a real genius...hahahahahaha...
cms neuf  1 | 2181
9 Aug 2025   #147
Supply chain security ?

With North Nigeria as a counterparty ?

Right laugh.

It is not the US government that needs minerals, but the US industries which are private businesses, run generally by smarter people than Golden Cow's circus and they are not going to do anything that put them at the mercy of thieving, drunk rapists. They will have noticed how that worked out for German industry.
amiga500  6 | 1815
9 Aug 2025   #148
With North Nigeria as a counterparty ?

well we live in the world that it is, not that we want it to be. Are you saying the whole concept of russia and america negotiating a peace settlement and admitting it's a proxy war is bunk?
Novichok  7 | 10419
9 Aug 2025   #149
run generally by smarter people than Golden Cow's circus

...except for those tariffs...Oh, shlt...what do we do now...Hmm...
cms neuf  1 | 2181
9 Aug 2025   #150
The idea that North Nigeria is a good place to establish a supply chain is not just bunk, it is hilarious.


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