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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 24


OP Velund  2 | 590
2 days ago   #751
Zelensky won't agree to Trump-Putin proposals

... Because agreeing to this may cause some sort of accident, in which british bodyguard (totally accidentally) will point their gun to Z and gun will (also accidentally) fire in that moment.

Britain has invested too much in the plan to weaken Russia to allow a green clown to stop the process, no matter how many Ukrainians it costs in lives... They are of little use to the British Crown anyway.
Novichok  7 | 10690
2 days ago   #752
cowards always think anyone patriotic,

Like the French and Norwegians in 1940? And the Poles in 1939 and 1944?

How about using that God-given organ aka brain and realizing that you will lose BEFORE thousands of your brothers are killed.

Did you know that a dead hero is worth a lot less than an alive coward? Unless you write poetry or make movies...Then dead heroes are like gold...
jon357  74 | 24922
2 days ago   #753
Zelensky won't agree to Trump-Putin proposals

If it involves ceding territory to a foreign country, neither he nor any future President is constitutionally able to do that.

And if a tried, it would be a death sentence for them.

The only way for them to make "peace" is to remove Zelensky and install a puppet government

That's what Putler wanted (and failed at doing a few years ago) however this will never happen.
Novichok  7 | 10690
2 days ago   #754
The only way for them to make "peace" is to remove Zelensky and install a puppet government.

...like the one in 2014?

Zelensky won't agree to Trump-Putin proposals.

Nobody in Washington gives a fvck what Zelensky wants. The only thing that matters is what is good for the US and its MICC.

If I were Trump, I would join Russia, finish this BS in a week, remove all sanctions, and make life normal again...

Why? Becuase we never, ever want to lose one American soldier for some azzholes who periodically manage to set the world on fire...That's why...

We managed just fine with the USSR. We can do the same with the Russian Federation.

Case closed.
mafketis  43 | 11764
2 days ago   #755
ceding territory to a foreign country, neither he nor any future President is constitutionally able to do that.

That's why I favor a German/Korea option. Freeze the current front, let russia run the parts it occupies without international recognition (like the annexation of the Baltics which was never recognized by most countries until they got their freedom).

Then watch the difference between the two....
Korvinus  6 | 786
2 days ago   #756
Did you know that a dead hero is worth a lot less than an alive coward?

Your honor, my client was only going to rape her, but since she resisted, he had to murder her. Its just the consequence of her free choice to not want to be raped. She should've just quietly laid down and taken it, minimizing harm.
OP Velund  2 | 590
2 days ago   #757
theamericanconservative.com/the-challenges-of-a-ukrainian-peace/
Novichok  7 | 10690
2 days ago   #758
Your honor, my client was only going to rape her,

Cut the crap...

Which one would you rather be....An alive coward or a dead hero...

theamericanconservative.com/the-challenges-of-a-ukrainian-peace/

Not our war, not our peace, not our challenges...

Memo to Russia: Do not give an inch. And never, ever trust Western motherfvckers...

Like women, they lie all the time..."We played for time to arm Ukraine"...said the German bit*ch...
OP Velund  2 | 590
2 days ago   #759
And never, ever trust Western motherfvckers...

Let's see what western MSM will publish about attack to Kursk Nuclear Plant during passed night. Drones was mostly shot down, but one managed to pass and damage transformer section, one of few that connects station to a power grid.

Definitely, Zelensky and their "masters" want to stop any talks about peace. And I hope that Putin will order to destroy the same equipment on some of nuclear plants on western urkaine as symmetrical answer to this attack.
Novichok  7 | 10690
2 days ago   #760
And I hope that Putin will order to destroy the same equipment on some of nuclear plants on western urkaine as symmetrical answer to this attack.

Symmetrical counter-attacks places the enemy in control. A very bad idea...The US did it Vietnam and lost the war...

Asymmetrical response is what Israelis are doing...1200 dead Israelis on 10/7...60,000 Palestinians dead later...50 to 1 kill ratio...Even that is too low in my pro-Israel opinion...

I know Putin is trying to minimize civilian casualties and spare government buildings in Kiev...A short ultimatum and a warning might help as a deterrent.
OP Velund  2 | 590
2 days ago   #761
A short ultimatum and a warning might help as a deterrent.

Not in this case. Z is interested in "never ending fairy tale" that drops endless millions in their pockets. How many ukrainian will die in process is least interesting thing to him.
Novichok  7 | 10690
2 days ago   #762
How many ukrainian will die in process is least interesting thing to him.

That's why he should be your number one target.
cms neuf  1 | 2253
2 days ago   #763
Rather than being the warmonger you claim, Zelensky has been willing to sign the ceasefire that North Nigeria refused for 140 days.

He turned up for peace talks in Turkey that rapist murderer Putler was too scared to attend
jon357  74 | 24922
2 days ago   #764
North Nigeria refused for 140 days.

Nobody trusts them.

rapist murderer Putler was too scared to attend

In Alaska, he looked ill.
Alien  29 | 7326
2 days ago   #765
Nobody trusts them

Is it possible to build a policy based on absolute lack of trust?
cms neuf  1 | 2253
2 days ago   #766
theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/23/pentagon-ukraine-russia-missiles

US continues to block strikes against North Nigeria. Even for British made missiles.

A nice trailer for how the Security Guarantees will work if left to Golden Cow (and Starmer)

One of the biggest lessons of this war - if you want to strike back you must make your own missiles. Don't ask permission from a Pentagon full of spies. That's why Poland needs to urgently start work on this.
PolAmKrakow  3 | 1003
2 days ago   #767
A very interesting report today in Forbes. Russia is going to have its worst harvest in 17 years, and energy exports have dropped about 25%. They are saying Russia is on the verge of a recession. But, despite dwindling financial reserves is still in possession of billions of dollars. Simple math, if these reports can be trusted, says that Russia can fight for another year or more without its economy starting to tank. Anyone thinking Ukraine can hold on for another year is delusional. Putin has played Trump along, and it looks like Trump is going to say fvck it pretty soon. When that happens, Ukraine is fvcked.
cms neuf  1 | 2253
2 days ago   #768
Golden Cow losing interest would help Ukraine - at the moment he is clearly on North Nigeria's side.

And of course, the Ukrainians can hold out for one more year - the drunk North Nigerians have been stuck in the same trench for 12 months already. 6km from Pokrovsk. You are always telling us the defenders will cave in next week but the sloshed idiots can never move more than 50 meters.
jon357  74 | 24922
2 days ago   #769
Is it possible to build a policy based on absolute lack of trust?

Yes, however not a pleasant one/

****** is going to have its worst harvest in 17 years, and energy exports have dropped about 25%

Excellent

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Golden Cow losing interest would help Ukraine

Enormously so. He has only proved to be a liability so far.
Korvinus  6 | 786
2 days ago   #770
Which one would you rather be....An alive coward or a dead hero...

dead hero. obviously
mafketis  43 | 11764
2 days ago   #771
ussia is going to have its worst harvest in 17 years

Harvests are less than half of what they were before the invasion...

ussia is on the verge of a recession

Galeev pointed out that comparisons of russia with other countries don't work because the russian government is allergic to releasing accurate numbers... which are impossible to find.

if these reports can be trusted

This link is very informative, the biggest takeaway is that there is no internal market for accurate numbers so none are produced....

therussianreader.com/2019/05/15/simon-kordonsky/

russia has regressed decades in socio-economic terms since the beginning of the invasion. If the war stopped tomorrow it would take decades to get back to where they were in 2019...

But of course, the well-being of russian citizens is a trivial matter of no concern to any russian government.... but r
Korvinus  6 | 786
2 days ago   #772
Russia to import 1 million skilled workforce from India​
msn.com/en-in/news/world/russia-to-import-1-million-skilled-workforce-from-india/ar-AA1IyQtX

THANK YOU TSAAR!!!
mafketis  43 | 11764
2 days ago   #773
Russia to import 1 million skilled workforce from India​

I don't understand.... have they had a referendum? Has the russian citizenry demanded the arrival of a bunch of hindu or muslim or sikh immigrants?

I thought only the democratic west pulled crap like this...

Waiting for the pro-russian rationalizations to start: 10, 9, 8, ...
cms neuf  1 | 2253
2 days ago   #774
I hope for their sakes that the Indians' skills include reading contracts in a foreign language.

Otherwise they are never going home. To Putler these poor saps are not even worth the cost of a body bag
jon357  74 | 24922
2 days ago   #775
skilled workforce

THANK YOU TSAAR!!!

Importing the aspirational and dynamic bourgeoisie of a country with a fecklessly high birth rate and a habit of aborting female foetuses.

What could possibly go wrong...
Torq  20 | 1944
2 days ago   #776
@Korvinus

Samurajowski

The picture is rather accurate. Did you know that a Japanese writer and politician, Nitobe Inazo, believed that Polish ethos was very similar to Japanese bushido, and he dedicated his book "Bushido: The Soul of Japan" to Poles whom he considered a "Samurai nation".

Of course, we remember what happens to Samurai nations who don't have nuclear weapons, so we have to get our own ASAP. But I repeat myself.
Ironside  53 | 13686
2 days ago   #777
How many ukrainian will die i

Don't be hypocritical here.
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That's why he should be your number one target.
@ Novichok

You are the number one target of Russian propaganda. If you really believe they care about human life, you are indeed retarded.
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Novichok  7 | 10690
1 day ago   #778
If you really believe they care about human life, you are indeed retarded.

1. I never said it.

2. In 3 years, Russia accidently killed 14,000 Ukrainian civilians. In the peaceful US, the chief sponsor of this war, 100,000 were murdered with full premeditation in the same period.

3. Did AK care about human life in 1944? As the result of their care about human life, 250,000 Poles died 6 months before the war would end anyway. Yet, they are heroes, not war criminals.

This term is reserved for Putin because he had the Russian army "kidnap" kids to safety...until it is safe for them to go back home.

You are a retard if you think you can win with me.
cms neuf  1 | 2253
1 day ago   #779
The NN war criminals will answer for each of those 14.000 when they are on trial at The Hague
Korvinus  6 | 786
1 day ago   #780
This term is reserved for Putin because he had the Russian army "kidnap" kids to safety...

A war criminal is not always sentenced and convicted for his war crimes. For comparison, someone might rape a child but not get convicted for it as they fail to catch him. This would not change the fact that he is a child rapist as long as it is established that he did rape a child. If anything, the ICC's definition of Putin as a war criminal is overly legalistic as I agree that child abduction seems like a pretty minor thing compared to stuff like Bucha, torturing and starving prisoners, and bombing civilians. But as it stands it is a direct legalistic violation that constitutes a war crime according to UN and ICC: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

It issued warrants on Putin in March 2023 for " unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation " going back to 2022


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