Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 23

They are trying to expand it now, but - listen - mercenaries are also not fools.

Russia offers a signing bonus of $20-50K - on the spot - depending on region. For many people in Cuba, in Angola, in Ethiopia, in Nepal, and other places - this is much more than they could ever hope to earn in a military career (we only recruit persons that can prove prior service).

Ukraine offers something on the level of $30-40K in annual compensation, but practically no signing bonuses, and no idea on when you will be released.

In the first three years of the war, Ukraine had a stable supply of people that simply hated Russia. Disaffected Georgians, Lithuanians, Belarusians, and so on. A lot of Poles also.

These last two years - most of Ukraine's foreigners are Colombians. There have been some articles published, that the Colombians are sent by Mexican cartels - to give the Colombians exposure to modern drone warfare and electronic warfare. This is due to the porosity of Urkaine's slack recruiting guidelines.

Rest assured - the symptoms of decay - becoming increasingly evident with each passing day - will eventually doom the Ukrainians to a very unhappy end. As inescapable in its finality, as the eventual death of our universe through entropy.

Unless they negotiate soon and in earnest.

No need for prior military experience for the poor saps that end up in the North Nigerian army fighting for the Nazi cause alongside alcoholic farm boys

In fact they will let anyone with two arms and two legs join - the internet is full of tales of third worlders tricked into suicide missions after being told they were going to work in some crappy factory in Omsk

As for negotiation, it's now 110 days since the Ukrainians agreed Trump's ceasefire document and then went to Istanbul to wait for Putler

Ahahaha!

We are about to receive 25,000-30,000 additional elite North Korean light infantry.

Totally ideologically solid. Relentless in their will to victory. Young. Fit.

Reuters is your friend.

I wouldn't trust the Koreans on this matter.

The Koreans have shown themselves to exceed Buryats, Chechens, Kyrgyz and other warlike ethnicities we have.

The Koreans are quite good. Definitely better than some Moscow born nerd that won't leave from under his mom's skirt.

I remember you telling us that the first 10.000 were elite and could stand any hardship

The first encounter with western weapons soon fixed that and it was even worse when they got their hands on North Nigerian amateur **** and home made booze

These next 25.000 will soon be strewn all over the fields 6km from Pokrovsk and their poor families will not get so much as a half sack of broken rice in compensation

They were:

1) Only two were captured alive - both attempted to kill themselves before capture

2) There is video footage of North Korean assaults, which shows they are exceptionally brave troops. Crossing open terrain, with minimal support, and storming enemy hardpoints.

3) Even in Ukrainian captivity they did not talk or embarrass themselves, as compared to our boys.

So yes - in every sense - they are elite.

Sounds like a recipe for premature death.

Brave, yes. Elite, hmm...

I bet Zelensky would only want "talks with Putin", so he can publicly say "fu*ck you" to him. Kinda like he did to Trump in the oval office. Based af

Another day, another rusnigger ammo depot blown up. Nice shockwave btw, wonder how many orbital nuuuuuuks were destroyed there.
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And that´s not all, another ork warboss was demilitarised and denazified as well.
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Ok Mr. Clausewitz....

Tell me - what is the prescription when there is an important Ukrainian position 500 meters in front of you in a treeline?

Shell it for days with artillery? Yes we do that.

Target it for weeks on end with kamikaze drones, seeking out every individual infantryman hiding in his foxhole? Yes.

Drop guided precision bombs from 60-70 km distance, from tactical bombers? Yes.

Drop thermobarics right into the trench to pulverize every living thing? Yes.

Equip the men with smoke devices and tear gas, to make their path easier? Yes.

But in the end - you have to run 500 meters across an open field and potentially meet your death. You don't know if they are all dead or retreated to some rear line. This demands bravery, discipline, unit cohesion, and good leadership.

russian culture places no value on human life.... it's not pleasant to think about but have you ever seen any counter evidence?

the whole "special military operation" is about killing Ukrainians.... nothing else just death

No russian in any medium has ever explained how the invasion would or could make anyone's life better....

It's just pure nihilism, russia is a death cult

Important caveat - only military Ukrainians.

Otherwise - we are the most humane fighting force on the planet.

We are very good at printing dead Ukrainian soldiers, but don't produce much else. Even the children - we protect.

@Bobko

Well, you said "with minimal support" and then went on to describe every possible pre-assault support they could possibly get.

If that was the case, then the final part of the job belongs indeed to foot soldiers. But in such situation it's nothing 'elite' about it, just regular infantry job.

Not disrespecting those Koreans, of course. Brave soldiers.

Then why have most attacks in recent days been against civilian targets?

You don't even believe the crap you write here yourself, Mr. Pozner....

Never believe a russian apologist.

Not so.

When Russian mechanized formations go on assault, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY - but the Koreans don't get the same - they go with much more support.

Beyond the preparation work I described - Russian troops are (and take this with a certain grain of salt, since there's much evidence to the contrary) going on assault supported by further additional firepower.

Typically this firepower consists of:

1) A static tank, used as an emplaced artillery position. It's called upon to effect direct fire on identified enemy fire positions.

2) An IFV or APC providing continuous suppressive fire on the position you are assaulting from high caliber small arms, and grenade launchers.

3) A whole host of drone systems, that monitor every single individual fighter during his operation, down to the level of giving him directions like "When you turn right, fire or toss a grenade".

Now I really don't understand why the North Koreans seem to act alone, beyond rear echelon support, when they go on attack. There could be a whole host of reasons for this.

Maybe they want to desert.

Foreign auxiliary formations rarely receive the same support as core forces; but still, advancing on enemy position when you are told to advance, with proper support or not, is regular infantry stuff.

If this is what passes for 'elite' these days... Ah, well, maybe I'm just getting old.

Not regular infantry stuff.

Regular infantry (45+ or unfit), is useful for manning static positions. Regular infantry is fully capable of doing work in the rear. Regular infantry cannot be used for assault.

Russia, for assault, used:

1) Elite brigades and divisions (airborne, marines, special forces of all branches)

2) Convicts (literally people who need to win to live)

3) Private military companies, first and foremost Wagner. Wagner recruited from the cream of the crop of each year's graduating class. They had some of the smartest people in the military working for them.

Assault has always been preserved for "elite" formations, even if the meaning of the word elite becomes meaningless through years of attrition.

You can't ask Average Joe to get out of his hole and run 500 meters across an open field.

You are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think there are elite soldiers in the NN military.

Exhibit A - the drunken assault on Kiev airport - would have made a good Police Academy movie

Exhibit B - moving 1km in 12 months despite all the special weapons and tactics

well actually several thousand square kilometers - the size of many small states in Europe.

Just 560 sq km this past month - if you'd like to know.

No, he would not...PF Polaks are retards who believe in Tooth Fairy, Santa, and that Ukraine is winning...

If you show them a picture like this except from Kiev, they will reject it as a lie even if you got it from the US DoD website.

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russia is so insecure.... it's pathetic....

This is regular infantry? OK, it has been a problem with nomenclature then.


Not in Wojsko Polskie. All the units, no matter which branch - anti-aircraft defense, logistics, whatever - go through basic infantry training. Hm... or at least it used to be like this in the days of conscription. Maybe these days, with specialised professional armies, it is different.


You must surely be joking! Getting out of their holes and running towards enemy positions is exactly what average Joes from regular infantry units have been doing ever since mass conscription has been introduced. Whether they were very successful at it is a different matter. When 1st Infantry Division (1. Dywizja Piechoty Legionów)- so-called 'iron division', definitely elite - was surrounded by the Germans in 1939, general Wincenty Kowalski said "we may be surrounded but we will exit the encirclement wherever we want, walking on German stomachs", and they did! Regular infantry divisions in such situation would fight but eventually be destroyed. That's the difference between elite and regular infantry.

Were those Koreans successful? I mean, did they actually manage to take several Ukrainian positions or did they only manage to die while trying? This might help establish whether they were elite or regular.

By the way, I'm 46 and I will run 500 metres with a backpack and a gun with a finger up my ass (if it's not idiomatic English - it means effortlessly, with ease). :)

I just checked that "z palcem w dupie" in Russian is "как два пальца об асфальт" ha ha - Russian always seems to be less vulgar than Polish. :)

Memo to Russia haters:

Hate is bad for your blood pressure. Relax and wait for the Russian victory.

It took the US 20 years from 1955 till 1975 to lose in Vietnam so be patient with Ukraine losing this one in a lot less time.

Who are you talking to? There are only Russia lovers here (genuine or in denial).

You are deluded.... the stupid Russians will never win in Ukraine.


Not true, most of us here are Russian haters.

Name 5.

Me.
Joker.
JR Jim.
Paulina.
Lenka.
Bratwurst Boy.
Alien.
CMS Neuf.
You.

Is that enough?