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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 22


Miloslaw  24 | 5396
2 days ago   #151
If one thinks its possible to leave the French or Brits without electricity and that they will surrender the next day - maybe

No chance.

They may decide to fight back, and then we all end up burning each other to a crisp.

The most likely scenario if Russia does not change it's stance.
Novichok  4 | 9067
2 days ago   #152
Kremlin responds to EU sanctions threat
The "language of ultimatums" is unacceptable for Russia, spokesman Dmitry Peskov has said


I said that, too.

One has to have power and the balls to issue an ultimatum and make it credible...

You, Euros, have neither.
mafketis  41 | 11292
2 days ago   #153
Zelenskyy's strategy in the last few months has been to call BSer's bluff....

Trump - sign the deal
Zelenksyy - okay
Trump - ......

Trump - agree to a ceasefire!
Zelenskyy - okay
Trump - .....

Trump / putin - there have to be talks in Istanbul!
Zelenskyy - okay I'll be there
putin - no way am I going!
Trump - for Christ's sake...

He's systematically denuding Trump (especially) of every delusion about where the roadblock to peace stands (hint: with the psycho beasts who began it).

We'll see Trump's next move.
OP Velund  2 | 518
2 days ago   #154
Here was the right idea - Former President Zelensky by his status should meet with former President Dmitry Medvedev.
OP Velund  2 | 518
2 days ago   #155
Here was another idea - to offer Zelensky to meet with some Russian comics, but nobody agreed to make at least one similar show to "equalize" their status. ;)


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cms neuf  2 | 1940
2 days ago   #156
Why won't Putler attend ? It was his idea - even invited himself to Turkey. It's weird that he won't attend
jon357  72 | 23808
2 days ago   #157
Why won't Putler attend ? It was his idea

Putler is basically admitting that he's lost.

If all he can offer is petulance, he's sliding down the slippery slope to oblivion. Even his brainwashed homo sovieticus orcs can see that.
jon357  72 | 23808
2 days ago   #158
Former President Zelensky

comics

Is that all you can offer?

You've lost. Admit it and weep orc tears down your cheap Chinese tee-shirt.
OP Velund  2 | 518
2 days ago   #159
your cheap Chinese tee-shirt.

Someone disinformed you. My tee-shirt is Carhartt K87 made in Honduras for US market. Not cheap, of course.

Check your other sources of information, to avoid dangerous stresses in nearest future...

It's weird that he won't attend

Acting presidents of state does not flying to talk with a private person that prohibit yourself to talk personally with mr. Putin by law while that private person was president of something in the past....
jon357  72 | 23808
2 days ago   #160
made in Honduras

So cheap tat from a dodgy part of the third world.

Acting presidents of state does not flying to talk with a private person that prohibit yourself to talk personally with mr. Putin by law while that private person was president of something in the past....

That means nothing. Both in terms of language and in terms of content.

He wanted (or pretended to want) talks with the President of Ukraine in Istanbul. The President of Ukraine is in Istanbul waiting for him.
OP Velund  2 | 518
2 days ago   #161
He wanted (or pretended to want) talks with the President of Ukraine in Istanbul.

He wanted that legal representatives of Russia talk with legal representatives in Ukraine in Istanbul. Zelensky is not President anymore (outdated).

Who said you that Putin wanted to meet with narcofuhrer in person? Spit to their ugly face...
jon357  72 | 23808
2 days ago   #162
Zelensky is not President anymore (outdated).

Are you on drugs? Ukraine has the same Head of State as they have had for several years. No changes.

to meet with narcofuhrer in person?

As far as I know, there are no 'narcofuhrers' now; Pighozin was murdered by Putler.

Either Putler shows up for the talks with his Ukrainian counterpart Prezident Zelenskyy, or the conflict escalates. He is not in a position to dictate conditions.
OP Velund  2 | 518
2 days ago   #163
Ukraine has the same Head of State as they have had for several years.

Legal cadence of Z as president of urkaine was ended May 20, 2024. Period.
Alien  26 | 6732
2 days ago   #164
Legal cadence

In times of war, the attacked country does not hold elections.
OP Velund  2 | 518
2 days ago   #165
does not hold elections.

The Ukrainian Constitution provides for the extension of powers, but only of the Rada, and does not say anything about the extension of the powers of the President. The law of Ukraine on the legal status of the law on martial law says that no elections are held during this period. This does not mean that they are prolonged. They are not being held. But there is Article 111, which says that in this case the powers of the supreme power are transferred to the speaker of the parliament.
jon357  72 | 23808
2 days ago   #166
Period

Wipe the blood off your legs.

President Zelenskyy is President, he is legally acknowledged as such and internal administrative processes in Ukraine or any other independent country do not concern you.

And in any case, you are wrong regarding the Constitution

So where's Putler? Is he waiting, weeping and hoping the new sanctions somehow that come into force due last midnight's deadline don't happen?

He is in no position to dictate terms.
Tacitus  2 | 1358
2 days ago   #167
and does not say anything about the extension of the powers of the President

Oh please, are you an expert on the Ukrainian constitution, or are you just reurgitating Russian propaganda?

Ukraine's constitution bars elections during martial law, making presidential vote impossible

tvpworld.com/85188588/ukraines-constitution-bars-elections-during-martial-law-making-presidential-vote-impossible

"Article 83 of the Ukrainian constitution states: "In the event that the term of authority of the Verkhovna Rada [Ukraine's parliament] of Ukraine expires while martial law or a state of emergency is in effect, its authority is extended until the day of the first meeting of the first session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, elected after the cancellation of martial law or of the state of emergency," making it impossible to organize national parliamentary elections.

Also, Article 19 of Ukraine's martial law legislation explicitly prohibits holding national elections while the country remains under wartime restrictions. The law states: "Under martial law, the following are prohibited: holding elections of the president of Ukraine, as well as elections to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, the Verkhovna Rada of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and local self-government bodies."

These legal restrictions, which predate Zelenskyy's presidency,mean elections cannot take place unless martial law is lifted or new legislation is passed.

Additionally, Article 108 of the Ukrainian constitution ensures that the sitting president remains in office until a new president is elected and sworn in, further complicating the possibility of an election during wartime.
cms neuf  2 | 1940
2 days ago   #168
When he got up in the middle of the night to suggest this Istanbul meeting, Putler never said anything about the Ukrainian government being illegitimate.

The meeting was his idea. If he doesn't go, it's just proof that he is a complete pussy.
Novichok  4 | 9067
2 days ago   #169
Former President Zelensky by his status should meet with former President Dmitry Medvedev.

I have a better idea...

Z should meet Nicolae Ceaușescu ... today...
Novichok  4 | 9067
2 days ago   #170
So where's Putler?

In North Nigeria, waiting for Golden Moron and you to shoot a threesome...

Now...Putin is in Moscow, deciding which middle finger to use to communicate to the Western powers how he feels about negotiating Russian land like Donbass or Crimea...
cms neuf  2 | 1940
2 days ago   #171
But the negotiations were Putler's idea, so were the date, the location.

What has changed since Saturday when he suggested that ?

What a pussy - hopeless
Novichok  4 | 9067
2 days ago   #172
But the negotiations were Putler's idea,

No.

"Putler" is a fictional character living rent-free in Golden Moron's head. Time to let him out...

What a pussy - hopeless

If that's the case, why is Poland spending 5% on arms...Scared of another Potop?
Bobko  28 | 2196
2 days ago   #173
If he doesn't go, it's just proof that he is a complete pussy.

Contrarily - I would be upset if Putin did go.

Zelensky doesn't deserve to meet with Putin. That ship has long since sailed. Let him meet with Lavrov and Ushakov instead.

Trump wanted to come too, changing his plans, and flying from the Persian Gulf to Turkey for the meeting. But after he heard that Putin is not coming, he sent Kellogg and Witkoff instead.

The last time Zelensky and Putin met, Zelensky spent the entire press conference rolling his eyes and making silly faces. Worse than when he was in the Oval Office. Made a big show about not shaking Putin's hand... as if Putin gives a f*ck.
Novichok  4 | 9067
2 days ago   #174
as if Putin gives a f*ck.

A great way to conclude the closing arguments...

On the other hand, I heard that Ukraine is winning, Russia is on its last legs, out of ammo, ready to sign anything, and give back Crimea and Donbass...begging for forgiveness...

So maybe you were too hasty with that conclusion...

Hey, Golden Moron, did I finally get it right? Come on...give me some credit for good reporting...
cms neuf  2 | 1940
2 days ago   #175
Nope. If Putler doesn't turn up it is proof he is not interested in peace

Old Liver face Lavrov and this other nobody can go and down shots and harass waitresses at the bar like typical NN tourists in Turkey.
Tacitus  2 | 1358
2 days ago   #176
Zelensky doesn't deserve to meet with Putin

True. Zelensky shouldn't be forced to meet and shake hands with a war criminal on whose orders Ukrainians are being killed and maimed daily.

However if that is what it takes to convince Trump that it is Putin who doesn't want to end the war, then I am sure Zelensky will work through his disgust and turn up for a meeting. Whether or not Putin has the courage to face a man he failed to have assasinated is another question of course.
mafketis  41 | 11292
2 days ago   #177
What a pussy - hopeless

His real name is pussymir pussymirovich pussytin....

I would be upset if Putin did go

pussy whipped?
Novichok  4 | 9067
2 days ago   #178
Nope. If Putler doesn't turn up it is proof he is not interested in peace

I just talked to Putin and he told me that he is as interested in peace as Stalin and Roosevelt were on May 7, 1945.

pussy whipped?

...or this:

Ukrainians are being killed and maimed daily.

...because they are in Russia illegally and carry guns.


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Novichok  4 | 9067
2 days ago   #179
His real name is pussymir pussymirovich pussytin....

Another Golden Moron trying to outmoron other Golden Morons...

How about going to Ukraine and helping invade Russia...Too loud there or no access to PF?
Bobko  28 | 2196
2 days ago   #180
If Putler doesn't turn up it is proof he is not interested in peace

No, it only proves that Zelensky is a man beyond redemption.

I don't have access to the inside of Putin's brain, but I think he feels a genuine disgust towards Zelensky. Zelensky is quite literally irredeemable in Putin's eyes.

He has said multiple times in the past that he will only speak to the next president of Ukraine, not this one. The fact that he is agreeing to these recent motions, shows how hard Putin is trying to accommodate Trump.


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