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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 22


Miloslaw  24 | 5488
1 day ago   #661
Putin seems to want WW3...... Trump is right......Russia will lose this and never recover!


Novichok  6 | 9532
1 day ago   #662
Putin seems to want WW3.....

I talked to my dear friend Putin. He said that he wants...

No NATO in Ukraine

Ukrainian army out of Russia

That's it.
Novichok  6 | 9532
1 day ago   #663
The head of Russia's RT, Margarita Simonyan, has explained that German-Ukrainian Taurus strikes on Russian cities could provoke a Russian missile strike on Berlin.

Memo to President Trump:

Please tell this German moron to take a chill pill.

I don't want BB to get hurt.


As a reminder...


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Alien  26 | 6911
1 day ago   #664
provoke a Russian missile strike on Berlin.

I thought the russians would not harm the Arabs. 🤔
jon357  72 | 24129
1 day ago   #665
russians would not harm

Harm is all they think of.
OP Velund  2 | 538
1 day ago   #666
Harm is all they think of.

When someone shoots a rabid dog, it's not inflicting harm but ending suffering.....
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12194
1 day ago   #667
I don't want BB to get hurt.

Thank you.....tell'em to hit the center.....they want to avoid the south/east....
OP Velund  2 | 538
1 day ago   #668
.they want to avoid the south/east....

No need to tell this. We know where sane persons live.
Mr Grunwald  33 | 2154
1 day ago   #669
I talked to my dear friend Putin.

As he is a war criminal

It can be compared to a prisoner that wants to:
1. leave prison
2. Have better meals
3. have more visitors by women

With the same response until he moves out of Ukraine...

REQUEST DENIED
Novichok  6 | 9532
1 day ago   #670
As he is a war criminal

Putin did everything humanly possible to avoid this war and later to minimize civilian casualties.

For a three-year war, with a million of military KIAs, 12,000 civilians is a drop in the bucket. In the US, 100,000 people die from illegal drugs every single year. BFD!

In Feb 2022, all he wanted was no NATO in Ukraine and Crimea. Western warmongers told Z to say no and the rest is history.

No war crimes. If any, they were committed by Western scum.

BTW, this war started in 2014 - just as WW2 did at Versailles. September 1, 1939 is for stupid kids. Just as that PH was "a sneak attack" by evil Japs. No, it was not.

No, Putin didn't commit any war crimes. No, I don't give a fvck what the robes at the ICC say, so don't even bother.
Mr Grunwald  33 | 2154
1 day ago   #671
@Novichok
Actions have consequences, Russians wether under Tsarist regime, Soviet or Russian Federation have been building resentment, death and horror in it's neighbourhood for not only decades but, centuries.

Continuing to pretend to be some sort of global power (equal to U.S.A despite U.S.A's clear military superiority and capabilities is nothing sort of stupid), despite not achieving goals abroad cause of nuclear weapons, will only lead to a ever growing coalition of states to be against Russia. Wether or not they have a axe to grind aswell! Cause more and more countries will smell a corpse that can be plundered. A NATO or any huge form of alliance will naturally appear, grow or expand despite U.S.A leading it or not cause of Russian Federation's international agression.

They copied Sweden's aggressive policies from 400 years ago, but didn't notice Sweden being forced to become neutral to avoid having to deal with a united Europe against her. Russia is now experiencing and worse, what Sweden would experienced if it didn't become neutral many years ago.

You are delusional!
Miloslaw  24 | 5488
1 day ago   #672
No NATO in Ukraine
Ukrainian army out of Russia

Bollox.That is not enough for Putin.How about Russia out of Ukraine?

The head of Russia's RT, Margarita Simonyan, has explained that German-Ukrainian Taurus strikes on Russian cities could provoke a Russian missile strike on Berlin.

More Russian wind, they would never dare attack Germany.Even Russians are not that stupid!

Putin did everything humanly possible to avoid this war and later to minimize civilian casualties.

Probably the most stupid post you have ever made on PF!
Novichok  6 | 9532
23 hrs ago   #673
Probably the most stupid post you have ever made on PF!

If what I said is not true, the opposite must be true...

So, quoting Milo:

Putin did everything humanly possible to start this war and kill as many civilians as possible - 13,000 to-date!!!

Even Z thinks you are stupid.
Alien  26 | 6911
18 hrs ago   #674
Putin did everything humanly possible to start this war and kill as many civilians as possible

👍
Tacitus  2 | 1376
10 hrs ago   #675
We will have to see how much of it can be confirmed, but the Ukrainians may have just wipes out a decent chunk of Russia's strategic bomber fleet with several drone strikes deep in Russian territory.
amiga500  5 | 1575
10 hrs ago   #676
video don't seem to lie, that's impressive :)

kyivindependent.com/enemy-bombers-are-burning-en-masse-ukraines-sbu-drones-hit-more-than-40-russian-aircraft/
mafketis  41 | 11440
9 hrs ago   #677
More on russia's early retirement of several planes....

x.com/nexta_tv/status/1929145472037343460

And now a city with a port for nuclear submarines has been attacked...

x.com/nexta_tv/status/1929154421897752916
cms neuf  2 | 2006
9 hrs ago   #678
Brilliant and hilarious - looking forward to the NN Nazis dumb ass "memorandum" tomorrow, delivered in person by some nobody pussy who hasn't seen Putler in a couple of years
Bobko  28 | 2299
9 hrs ago   #679
A dark day for Russian strategic aviation.

Up to 40 planes struck. 5 confirmed destroyed.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12194
9 hrs ago   #680
We will have to see how much of it can be confirmed,

BILD confirms it...and they are usually good informed with lotsa contacts.....plus FINANCIAL TIMES too....plus videos!

Russian bombers are burning!:

Major attack on Putin's strategic bases

bild.de/politik/ausland-und-internationales/ukraine-putin-bomber-brennen-grossangriff-auf-russen-stuetzpunkte-683c322a5f7a8d25a5bea737

Shock in Russia! On Sunday afternoon, Ukraine attacked four strategic bases of Vladimir Putin's army.

▶︎ 1,800 kilometers inside Russia, several Russian strategic bombers are burning at the Olenya airbase.

Videos show thick, black clouds of smoke rising above the base. Moscow has stationed a large portion of its strategic bombers there, which regularly participate in attacks on Ukraine.

As BILD learned from Ukrainian intelligence sources, the attack was an operation by the SBU, the domestic intelligence agency....

The Financial Times (FT) also reports that the SBU is conducting "a large-scale special operation to destroy enemy bombers" deep inside Russia. "SBU drones are targeting aircraft that bomb Ukrainian cities every night. More than 40 aircraft have reportedly been hit so far," the FT quoted an informant as saying.

According to the SBU, the aircraft hit also included strategic bombers such as the Tu-95 and Tu-22.

Air base in Siberia also attacked

▶︎ In addition to the attack on Olenya, there was also an almost simultaneous drone attack on the strategic air base Belaya - in the far east of Russia and about 5,500 kilometers from the current front line in Ukraine.

Video footage taken by a Ukrainian reconnaissance aircraft and released by a Ukrainian official appears to show the Russian air base Belaya in southeastern Siberia....


I wonder if that has something to do with the "end of range limitation" of european weapons Zelensky recently secured in Berlin?
amiga500  5 | 1575
9 hrs ago   #681
A dark day for Russian strategic aviation.

Now we'll finally see how many ballistic missiles russia actually has in reserve, or have they been scraping the bottom of the barrel all this time.
Novichok  6 | 9532
9 hrs ago   #682
Up to 40 planes struck. 5 confirmed destroyed.

I really hate to be so right so often...

That war should have been an all-out three-week affair, starting with the assassination of Z and flattening every gov building in Kiev.

But Putin decided to go with a police action, Russian edition.

He must have forgotten how the world's most powerful military can lose to the bamboo breathers in the swamps of Vietnam.
cms neuf  2 | 2006
8 hrs ago   #683
They tried an all out 3 week affair

Problem is they tried it with crappy cold war weapons and on the wrong end of a vodka bottle

These long range drone strikes are a huge problem both for Lockeed Martin and for the Americans who want to use security guarantees to strongarm the other democracies.
Korvinus  3 | 634
8 hrs ago   #684
A dark day for Russian strategic aviation.

So... they drove like 3- 4k km into Russia with some drone filled minitrucks and destroyed 5 airfields full of irreplaceable strategic bombers?

HOLY SH!T LOL, this is a big as blunder as that circus naval offense vs japan.
Bobko  28 | 2299
8 hrs ago   #685
wonder if that has something to do with the "end of range limitation" of european weapons

It does not.

The drones flew out of trucks, driven by unsuspecting Russian drivers. The trucks pulled up right next to the airbases.

No conventional air defense system would be able to intercept a drone that took off 100 meters away, and flew a few dozen feet off the ground. However, a simple jammer would have stopped them, and it's not clear why there were no jammers at these airbases (given that at this point every Lada has a jammer). Some "experts" write that jammers cannot be used around airbases due to the interference they cause. Strange explanation.

Food for thought, for Americans, Western Europeans, and everyone else about the vulnerability of these types of assets.

Russian MoD had been building hardened shelters for these aircraft the past year. This may have been Ukraine's last chance to pull off an attack of this type.

Question to Russian MoD also - why in year three of this war we don't have hardened shelters that even Syria and Iran have?
mafketis  41 | 11440
8 hrs ago   #686
So... they drove like 3- 4k km into Russia

It's my understanding they convinced (I don't know how) russian truck drivers.... it's the kind of thing

A dark day for Russian strategic aviation.

aka a very bright day for people who are motivated by freedom.

why in year three of this war we don't have hardened shelters that even Syria and Iran have?

You know the answer as well as I do....
Novichok  6 | 9532
8 hrs ago   #687
They tried an all out 3 week affair

No. All-out was what the US did in Iraq, and earlier in Dresden and Hiroshima. That's all out...

To the US credit, in the above cases, it never used cute substitutes for "war". You can't put lipstick on this pig by calling it Special Military Operation or "police action" and make it less of a war where real people really die.

The rule is simple: When you want to inflict pain, do it quickly before we all get used to it and go numb...like right now...

My questions for Russia: Why do you allow more weapons into Ukraine? Do you have satellites?
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12194
8 hrs ago   #688
The trucks pulled up right next to the airbases.

Wow!

Truly, who would have thought the Ukrainians had it in them....

This may have been Ukraine's last chance to pull off an attack of this type.

Or the beginning?

He must have forgotten how the world's most powerful military can lose to the bamboo breathers

That!

Bringing the war home to the enemy....targeting their military before it can take off....no innocent civilians! That could be the way....

PS: The closeness between Russians and Ukrainians, culturally, linguistically etc. might become Ukraines biggest asset in such a different kind of war!
jon357  72 | 24129
8 hrs ago   #689
who would have thought the Ukrainians had it in them....

Pretty well anyone who's spent time around Ukrainians.

Bringing the war home to the enemy....targeting their military before it can take off.

This is exactly what they must do.

closeness between .................. and Ukrainians, culturally, linguistically etc. might become Ukraines biggest asset

It's one of them. They've suffered under and lived near Orcs for centuries. They know how they think, know their faults and know how to deal with them.
Bobko  28 | 2299
8 hrs ago   #690
It's my understanding they convinced (I don't know how) russian truck drivers..

They used a clueless truck driver to bomb the Kerch bridge too. Poor guy went up with the truck, and all the cellulose he was hauling.

They rig the trailer to their needs, and then hire a Russian truck driver to haul the freight. That's it.

The drones took off not through the doors, but through the roof section, covered by a tarp. It's probably not difficult to rig a trailer tarp to come off at a certain point.

You know the answer as well as I do

Not really. I mean this sincerely. Many people are wondering what the MoD is thinking.

Historically - Russia and America did not build hardened shelters. Countries like Switzerland, Syria, Iran, etc did - but not the two largest military powers. The rationale was simple:

1) There are hundreds of airbases to which you can relocate if you need to scatter.

2) Both countries forces were largely offensive. There weren't many plans for hunkering down and trying to survive enemy bombings of airbases.

3) Costs were prohibitive, compared to the marginal utility.

4) Nukes are a thing, and no shelter can survive a nuke.

But this war is different in nature and in scope. All the bombers flights are in the same direction, and almost always from the same airbases. Ukraine has ALREADY ATTACKED THESE BASES SEVERAL TIMES. The extent of the response was painting planes on the tarmac, and putting old tires on bombers wings.

For the price of a million dollars or so, you could build a primitive shelter for every plane - that no little FPV drone could damage. These were in the process of being built, but not at all the bases that were hit.

Somehow, the fake planes and the old tires didn't do their job.


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