Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 21

good thing that the West was sure to not 'escalate'....

Bloody nukes. I hate them. If it hadn't been for nukes, we would have ended this farce in three months.

Putinist regime is a corrupt, rotten, worm-ridden corpse. Natural selection would have removed them from power long time ago if they didn't have nukes. F*cking hate those things. There's no honour in them.

Soon Putin's regime is destroyed, r*ssia decolonised, etc, etc, Belarus will just get your run-of-the-mill colour revolution. I have people working on it.

Artiukh got fired yesterday:

kyivindependent.com/government-backs-dismissal-of-sumy-luhansk-oblasts-governors/

"The Ukrainian government approved the dismissal of Volodymyr Artiukh as the Sumy Oblast governor and of Artem Lysohor as the Luhansk Oblast governor, said Taras Melnychuk, the government's representative in parliament, on April 15."


Dude... Have some shame... You have to know the language of the country you are living in. This is the most basic of basics, imho. It's one thing if you want to live temporarily in a said country, but if you want to be a citizen and bring up your kids in a given country then in my opinion it should be absolutely obligatory. And it doesn't matter if this language is difficult or not or if it is being spoken outside of the said country or not. Polish has pretty much zero use outside of Poland too and is one of the most difficult languages on this planet, but try telling Poles that Polish citizens shouldn't have to know Polish lol I can't comprehend how you can be a citizen and don't know the language of your country. You're just hurting yourself and may become a burden for the country.


I do and that's on the US and not any collective "West".

This is a major self-own.... you're saying in essence that She's right in her estimation that russians will kill tens of civilians, including children, for the chance to kill a few officers....

russians don't even seem to hear themselves....

So that son of a b*tch WAS lying when he said it was not his idea...

Notice another thing - Trump recognized the strike immediately as a "legitimate" one. On the day of the attack, he was asked by a journalist in the Oval Office what he thought, and he said, "It's terrible. They made a horrible mistake." It was clear from the rest of his speech that he learned this based on classified information.

Now we know, that the "horrible mistake", was the second missile being redirected by electronic counter measures. Not really a "mistake" per se.

Since then - Trump has fired the US ambassador in Kiev who was a little too eager to blame Russia. He has blocked a joint statement by the G7 condemning Russia for the attack.

This approach is most appreciated.

What's harder to understand, is why people like Macron, Merz, and Starmer still going around trying to create a circus around this event? Do they not read Ukrainian news? Do France, Germany, and the UK not have their own intelligence services?

Alternatively - are they utterly cynical bastards that do not care a damn about the truth?

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Whether it was his idea - I don't know, but he clearly allowed it.


What on Earth are you talking about?


Dude... Again... Have some shame... There are no lies in Macron's statement. RuSSian rockets shouldn't be falling on Ukrainian cities in the first place - this is the evil that should stop.

Le'ts have some truth then.... Mr. Veracit-ovsky

Let's hear about who's better off because of russia's invasion of Ukraine....

List 'em...


All these years of dealing with russians and you still haven't figure out some very basic things.....

From the Kyiv Independent:

U.S. President Donald Trump called Russia's deadly attack against Sumy on April 13 "terrible" but suggested it had been carried out by "mistake" without elaborating on how he came to the conclusion.

"I think it was terrible, and I was told they made a mistake, but I think it's a horrible thing. I think the whole war is a horrible thing... for that war to have started is an abuse of power," Trump said when asked about the Russian strike.

He was being goaded into admitting it was some kind of war crime, and he twisted himself out of that situation admirably.

The "I was told" clearly refers to the intelligence community.

You can check my other statements regarding the ambassador and G7 on Google News. This is recent news from the last two days.

All this - for me - adds up to Trump taking a sympathetic view of Russia's actions.

How is saying the war should never have happened a 'sympathetic view' of russia's actions...

So russia regrets killing a bunch of civilians? That would be a first....

Because the rest of his little speech, is dumping on Biden and Zelensky for letting it happen.

On that same day, he spoke dismissively of Zelensky's efforts to now simply BUY Patriot missiles.

So yes - I think Trump is rather sympathetic.


You remind me of Maryana Bezugla, haha! You have some very similar personality traits.

Why do you keep claiming that? You think I don't know RuSSians? I know them better than probably most people on this forum and, I'm pretty sure, majority of Poles.

When I'm writing to Bobko to "have some shame" I'm just stressing the fact that he doesn't have any. Is that so unclear or why are you picking on me of all people?


All you can get out of this statement is that Trump was told that RuSSians hit the city center "by mistake", I guess, which would be bullsh1t even by RuSSian admission, because they intended to target that area.


No sh1t lol Trump and his "courtiers" are clearly sympathetic to RuSSia in general, to Putin, etc.


Thanks for the compliment :)))

Not picking on you. It just seems like a waste of time to expect a russian to have a sense of shame or responsibility... A few do, I guess, but none of them here seem to.

@mafketis, what makes you think that I "expect" anything from RuSSians writing here?

You understand yes - that she is a pariah?

Two days ago - everyone was calling her a crazy b*tch again - and asking Zelensky to lock her up in the nutter asylum.

Now when her scandalous claims were proven true - again - nobody is thanking Maryana or offering back her job on the Defense Committee.

I think she even got kicked out of Zelensky's "Servant of the People" party, and is now totally on her own.

So those personality traits are at least not very good for getting along, or being heard.

P.S. - Just to be clear, in Russia we love Maryana. We read her every post!

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Amazing people are analyzing Golden Cow's syntax - this is not Brezhnev or Deng that we are talking about - he says the first thing that comes into his head and for the last month it's rarely been anything sensible

Even when it is sensible, it's usually not true.

Any solution to the Ukrainian war will be one that keeps him and his amateur friends a long way away

Well, not quite, because according to Wikipedia:

"Bezuhla is the Chairperson of the Subcommittee on the Implementation of NATO Values and Standards, International Military Cooperation and Peacekeeping. She is also a member of the Permanent Delegation to the NATO Parliamentary Assembly."


Obviously I don't know anything much about her and her personality traits, but it looks like she cares about her people and is brave enough to stand up and tell the inconvenient truth. That requires courage and I think it's admirable. 🤔


Oh, I'm sure you do lol But you hate such people if they're Russians in RuSSia and you want them to be locked up too. 🧐

In Russia it is bad for your health to do what Maryana does.

That doesn't mean we don't have our own fair share of "doomers" and "negative nancies". It's mostly military bloggers - that combine the job of serving in the armed forces and blogging about the war. The government seems to be more careful about prosecuting them, and sometimes actually makes efforts to meet with them to hear them out.

If you read certain Russian military bloggers, you may get the impression that Ukrainian forces are already sieging Moscow - while the entire government has camped out in Monaco and Nice.

That being said - we certainly don't have a deputy in the Duma who would constantly accuse Putin and his generals of gross incompetence or corruption.


She's certainly missing a few screws in her head. Every man in the Ukrainian parliament is afraid of her. Older people wonder why Maryana doesn't have a husband (she's definitely not LGBT - because she hates them).

There's another crazy woman that used to be in the Ukrainian parliament - Nadezhda Savchenko. A former pilot, she spent some time as a prisoner of war in Russia during the first phase of the war (2014-2022). After she was exchanged back to Ukraine, she got elected to parliament. There, among other things, she attempted to blow up the entire place with everyone in it. She got charged with terrorism, and was jailed for about a year.

Indeed.


That's sad if you think that caring about your people and standing up for them means that someone is "crazy".

Btw, the fact that I'm not sucking up to an imperialist Putinist on an internet forum doesn't mean I can't get along with people in real life lol I've never had a problem with that. I'm a nice person :)


Really? Did you talk to them about it? :D I thought that men in Eastern Europe have more balls than that lol

Maybe you don't know very much about Ukraine. In Ukraine women run things.

Ukrainians speak of the country as a woman - the same way Russians do.

One of the most recognizable symbols of Ukraine is a female personification of the country - the huge statue in Kiev.

The country elected the first female leader of any post-Soviet country.

As someone who had dated a Ukrainian for 7 years - they absolutely dominate and run the household.

We are very close with Ukrainians, spiritually and culturally, but our women are much more meek than theirs.

You supported the trial, imprisonment and likely murder of Navalny... (a piece of sh7t on his own but let's let that slide for a moment).

What makes you think the rest of the world wants to be as politically castrated as russians are?

Who said I supported it?

I only said, that he had been on the road to Calvary that is necessary to achieve Russian leadership. The jailings and repression were the beginning of his political career. Tragically - he had died.

I believe Putin when he says this was disappointing news, and not something planned.

If you make an attempt for the Russian throne - you are already by definition an absolute madman. Even in America - look - they tried to kill Trump.

It is the most high stakes game imaginable.

Would you criticize it in writing in public in russia (when you're there too)?

If not... you gave it all the support that the russian government needed.


SUCKER!!!!!!!

Well, it doesn't look like it. 21% of MPs in the Ukrainian Parliament are women. In Poland, for example, it's 31%.


It's the same with Poland.


With Polish roots at that! lol What a combo :D


Pretty much the same in Poland lol *shrugs* That doesn't mean it translates into "running things in the country" though, unfortunately.

I know people who went to the funeral. I would not attend his funeral, personally, but I do know that nothing happened to the people that paid their final respects.

People may see Putin as some Lord Voldemort, but he is a human too. Especially when it comes to sacral things like funerals. He played a personal role in ensuring the body was released to his mother, and made sure the kilometer long funeral march could take place.

Navalny - you mean the guy that Putin personally intervened to let him go to Germany for treatment...That Navalny?


Those are the facts that don't matter here...Only feelings...especially the feelings of hate toward Russia and Putin.

I don't understand what you want from Bobko?
All those unspoken expectations - really?

I have already posted a solution in the appropriate thread. I have repeated it once or twice and can't be bothered to repeat it one more time.

Hahaha, OMG LOL 🤦


After he played a very personal role in doing all the things that led Navalny to turning into that dead body lol Dusza człowiek! :D 🤦


So was Hitler lol 🙄

....so its possible!


bild.de/politik/ausland-und-internationales/rache-fuer-sumy-ukrainische-drohnen-treffen-russische-raketen-basis-67ff953249b7f04ecad67982

.....Video footage from Russian civilians shows the precise approaches and impacts of two kamikaze drones between the buildings of the 112th Missile Brigade. Unlike in Sumy, according to initial reports, no residents were harmed in the Ukrainian army's precise attacks.

The two drones had previously flown at least 700 kilometers over Russian territory without being detected or even shot down by Russian air defenses during their four-hour approach.

On their way to Shuya, the two drones had to pass through the comparatively well-guarded Moscow metropolitan area. However, the Ukrainian units managed to outwit hundreds of modern Russian air defense systems and hit their targets deep inside Russia unscathed.....

....imagine what they could reach with the Taurus! The Kreml???