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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 21


Velund  1 | 496
1 day ago   #61
Every time there are those who want to get Russian land. And they get it, a rectangle of 2*1.5 meters. If hungry pigs don't finish their bodies really fast.


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Novichok  4 | 8760
1 day ago   #62
5000 fewer morons...

It least this data is consistent with that bullshlt aka the Warsaw Uprising: morons die first.

Thanks, Velund. You always manage to make your posts worth reading.
cms neuf  2 | 1877
1 day ago   #63
Of course there is no such page in Statista - this is fake news generated by North Nigerian Nazi murderers

Completely disgusting lies
Novichok  4 | 8760
1 day ago   #64
Who is more credible here...hmm...Velund or cymes...Let me think...

OK, I thought about it. I will go with Velund. That's how much I can't stand Polaks.
cms neuf  2 | 1877
1 day ago   #65
Bits of Kursk are still controlled by Ukraine - I would be really surprised if the NN Nazis were able to wander about freely identifying who was Colombian and who Japanese.
Alien  26 | 6575
1 day ago   #66
Who is more credible

The one who didn't falsify these statistics.
Paulina  19 | 4574
1 day ago   #67
Who is more credible here...

Definitely not Velund and his Putinist propaganda :)

Great job Paulina!

Our dear Bobko Bobkovich, what about your "job"? :) Where are the links that I asked for one day ago? :)))

Still waiting... and asking about them... and waiting for them... :))):

nolinks
Novichok  4 | 8760
1 day ago   #68
Definitely not Velund and his Putinist propaganda :)

Quote one piece of his Putinist propaganda and the evidence that it's not true.

I will accept Western lies for a moment...Like that Donbass belongs to Ukraine.
mafketis  38 | 11219
1 day ago   #69
Bobko Bobkovich

I finally realized who else he reminds me of (other than Vladimir Pozner). He's like a rusian version of Polonius3 (blast from the past!), the same aggrieved ethnocentrism, the same faked enthusiasm.

I'm now thinking he's a rusam (plastic russian) who projects a lot of idealized nonsense onto the place rather than russian russian.
Novichok  4 | 8760
1 day ago   #70
He's like a rusian version of Polonius3

If Bobko, PAK, and Poloniusz were at table #1 and you, cymes, and pavian at #2, you would get up and move to #1.
OP Miloslaw  24 | 5260
1 day ago   #71
I will accept Western lies for a moment...Like that Donbass belongs to Ukraine.

Why is that a "Western Lie"? Please explain in detail.
Velund  1 | 496
1 day ago   #72
Of course there is no such page in Statista

It may be under a paid subscription on Statista's website. But I took this infographics from Reddit, and I saw similar numbers in several sources a couple days ago as a list.
Novichok  4 | 8760
1 day ago   #73
Velund, don't even bother with these azzhole...

I remember how nothing was ever enough for them when I was trying to prove I was from Poland.

Not even my US passport that says: Born in Warsaw, Poland.
OP Miloslaw  24 | 5260
1 day ago   #74
Why is that a "Western Lie"? Please explain in detail.

Rich, you ignored my question.......
Novichok  4 | 8760
1 day ago   #75
Look up #68. It's there...
Paulina  19 | 4574
1 day ago   #76
Quote one piece of his Putinist propaganda and the evidence that it's not true.

The infographic posted by Velund is fake. The word used ("mercenaries") betrayed it. RuSSia uses this term for foreign volunteers in Ukraine. Neutral sources tend to use terms "foreign volunteers" or "foreign fighters" no matter if those volunteers are fighting on Ukrainian or RuSSian side.

Also, from what I've managed to gather Statista posts serious, verifiable statistics.

I've googled it and there's no statistics concerning the number of killed "mercenaries" or "foreign volunteers" or "foreign fighters" in Kursk on Statista site.

It may be under a paid subscription on Statista's website.

No, it isn't. It would still come up in the internet search, you just wouldn't be able to access it.

But I took this infographics from Reddit

lol 🤦

I saw similar numbers in several sources a couple days ago as a list.

Post those "sources" then. 🙄
Bobko  27 | 2168
1 day ago   #77
Where are the links that I asked for one day ago?

I'm not gonna post pictures of dead bodies, but look what the Ukrainians are writing - just a day later:

censor.net/ru/news/3546774/artyuh-prokommentiroval-nagrajdenie-voennyh-v-sumah-13-aprelya

This is a Ukrainian website, which I've linked here many times, run by a rabid Ukrainian nationalist that hates Russians a bit more than completely. No accusation of Russian manipulation possible here.

What does the article say?

It cites the head of the city's defense administration, who actively denies it was his idea to stage an award ceremony for soldiers of the 117th Territorial Defense Brigade at the Sumy University convention center.

He is replying to that same MP's (Maryana Bezugla) accusations that leadership had gathered soldiers on a Sunday at a university for an award ceremony.

The journalist asks him - "was this your idea?"

The guy says - "No, it was not my idea, but I was simply invited there instead. Who invited me? I can't say."

That's it. Case closed.

Kania with his anger over Russians bombing church queues. You with your ever present mistrust of Russians.... All it took was one single day to confirm that Ukraine is lying - AGAIN.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 871
1 day ago   #78
In just a few days we will celebrate Easter. I think that day marks when Trump either accelerates talks or walks away. Its pretty clear the west and Russia dont want to end the war. If Germany wants to send Taurus missles to Ukraine things will likely escalate again.

Meanwhile, I am still waiting for the Russian economy to collapse under these sanctions.
cms neuf  2 | 1877
1 day ago   #79
If the sanctions don't work then no problem keeping them. NN however says they won't agree a ceasefire until sanctions are lifted (of course if they are lifted the NN Nazis will just make some new demand)

Anyway, the sanctions are working, and the falling oil price caused by Golden Cow's lunacy is also bad for North Nigeria.

It's quaint you think Golden Cow can bring peace, almost like believing in Santa Claus. Putler never listened to him and since Vance's crazy moment it's obvious that the Ukrainians have been making alternative arrangements that don't involve relying on inexperienced geriatric idiots and drunk Hegseth.
mafketis  38 | 11219
1 day ago   #80
Ukraine is lying - AGAIN

russia invaded Ukraine (for no rational reason any russian or russia supporter can name).

Who is better off now because of the invasion?

Who is worse off now because of the invasion?

Why is russia rejecting peace? Who is gaining from this?

Why don't russians care about their sons, husbands, fathers dying for nothing in Ukraine?
Paulina  19 | 4574
1 day ago   #81
I'm not gonna post pictures of dead bodies

I wasn't asking for "pictures of dead bodies", but for videos of the military vehicles you claimed were filmed by Ukrainian media.

censor.net/ru/news/3546774/artyuh-prokommentiroval-nagrajdenie-voennyh-v-sumah-13-aprelya

Thanks for the link. Couldn't you do it earlier, instead of all this talking? 🙄

Kania with his anger over Russians bombing church queues. You with your ever present mistrust of Russians....

My mistrust of Putinists is well founded and my rule when dealing with you and other Putinists will always be: "Don't trust and verify first." One day you may be telling the truth and another day you may be lying or manipulating or not telling the whole truth. Some of you also post simply fake stuff, like Velund yesterday.

As for "bombing church queues" - according to this link that Iskander had cluster munitions, so it shouldn't be used for a target in a city full of civillians:

suspilne.media/sumy/994659-moei-iniciativi-ne-bulo-golova-sumskoi-ova-pro-zvinuvacenna-sodo-organizacii-nagorodzenna-vijskovih/

Someone in the comments from your link wrote that only one colonel got killed? If that's the case then that would be some shi*ty result considering all those civillian deaths, including children.

All it took was one single day to confirm that Ukraine is lying - AGAIN.

Well, not exactly lying since civillians were killed and clearly Ukrainian media are reporting about that ceremony. But on Sunday you could get an impression as if the civillian population was targeted or like there was no logical target for that attack. So definitely not telling the whole truth.

I don't like this, obviously, since I don't take kindly to bullsh1t, but also:

1. Firstly, there's no need for such bullsh1ting - RuSSia is doing enough evil as it is - so there's no need for making RuSSia "look bad" - it looks bad enough. Ukraine should make sure to be the opposite of RuSSia in this respect and be honest and transparent. Especially that you clearly can't hide such stuff in Ukraine, so Ukrainian authorities are just shooting themselves in the foot, imho - I doubt that public opinion in countries supporting Ukraine would like this.

2. Secondly - the recklessness/stupidity... Human lives are more important than some ceremonies and Ukraine can't afford to lose soldiers in such stupid ways, especially good soldiers (since they were being awarded, I'm guessing they were good).
And if this continues people in Ukraine may start getting pissed that the military is endangering civillians in such a way (at least I would be).
mafketis  38 | 11219
1 day ago   #82
some shi*ty result considering all those civillian deaths, including children

All this time and you still don't understand that human life has no value to russians?(including civilians, including children).

you could get an impression as if the civillian population was targeted or like there was no logical target for that attack

Or that human beings would make the calculation of legitimate military targets vs civilian loss of life... but russians don't do that.

no need for making RuSSia "look bad"

This is actuallyd enlightening... russians legitimately don't get that russia already looks bad... it's not an act, they don't get it. They are really and truly surprised that people react negatively to anything they do. For themselves, they're are told to praise the war and not criticize the government and they obey. Sheeple.

There's no fixing this....
Torq  10 | 1120
1 day ago   #83
Kania with his anger over Russians bombing church queues

It's not about church queues; it's about using cluster munitions in a city centre full of people just to kill a couple of enemy soldiers. It's about mutilated bodies of dead children in the middle of a street on Palm Sunday.

There is no honour in that. There is no Truth, bravery or Slavic spirit either. It's pure cowardice and nazi-style evil.

I am ever closer to supporting sending Wojsko Polskie to Ukraine. If it means war with Russia, so be it. If I have to go, so be it.

I am sick and tired of this kurewstwo.
mafketis  38 | 11219
1 day ago   #84
no honour in that. There is no Truth, bravery or Slavic spirit either. It's pure cowardice and nazi-style evil

welcome to russia, comrade.
Torq  10 | 1120
1 day ago   #85
comrade

F*ck off, Maf.

I can distinguish between Russian people and the evil putinist regime.
mafketis  38 | 11219
1 day ago   #86
I can distinguish between Russian people and the evil putinist regime.

What makes you think the putinist 'regime' does not represent the 'russian people'?

There is no evidence that a significant portion of the population cares about civilian (or even russian) deaths.... there's lots of evidence they support expanding geographically no matter the cost. The size of the country is a raison d'etre for them and human costs don't enter into their calculations.

there's no fixing that (or wishing it away).
Paulina  19 | 4574
1 day ago   #87
All this time and you still don't understand that human life has no value to russians?(including civilians, including children).

I do know that, but what about Ukrainians? Aren't they supposed to be better than RuSSians? I've just checked Maryana Bezuhla's Facebook profile and she claims that was the plan of the ceremony:

1. 9:30 - the meeting (*soldiers gathering for the ceremony, I suppose)
2. 10:00 - award ceremony
3. 11:00 - children's performance (or a play for kids?)

RuSSian Iskanders hit at 10:15 - 10:20.

Of course RuSSians clearly knew the plan of the ceremony, so they must've known that there's going to be kid's play right after - and so that there are going to be kids there, which adds to their evil... but... if you knew that such ceremonies/military gatherings have a history of getting targeted by RuSSia would you put such a ceremony right before a play for kids? I don't know if that's really true, but according to Bezuhla, if I understand correctly, that play for kids wasn't cancelled.

I can distinguish between Russian people and the evil putinist regime.

A lot of RuSSian people support that evil Putinist regime and RuSSian invasion of Ukraine though, including your "Bobi".
Torq  10 | 1120
1 day ago   #88
A lot of RuSSian people support that evil Putinist regime and RuSSian invasion of Ukraine though

They are blinded by propaganda. Besides, supporting the invasion and war doesn't mean supporting atrocities against civilians. If such crimes as in Sumy continue to happen, Russians will rise against their government and resistance towards this war will gain strength (like with American war in Vietnam).

There is no evidence that a significant portion of the population cares about civilian deaths

You need evidence for that? They are people, of course they care but they are afraid of their totalitarian regime.
amiga500  5 | 1524
1 day ago   #89
I do know that, but what about Ukrainians?

Maf does not have the cultural competency to understand what slavic people inherently know, that whatever evil the russians do, the ukranians will do 85 percent of it (and poles 70 percent etc), the further east you go the less regard for human life there is.
Mr Grunwald  33 | 2137
1 day ago   #90
What makes you think the putinist 'regime' does not represent the 'russian people'?

1. the amount of people reacting positively to a military opposition to Putin.
2. The amount of Russians trying to escape the war
3. Considering that Russians tend to think about Slavic brotherhood and Slavs as family (which Russian leadership useally abuse for their own gain) then attacking or being in conflict with a major Slavic state. Can't be popular on a very deep personal level. No matter how much explained through propaganda.


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