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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20


mafketis  38 | 11284
21 Mar 2025   #961
This post pretends that the Feb 28 was genuine and not kayfabe... but I agree with it 100%

If you're not following this guy, an American real journalist in Ukraine, you're missing out on very valuable insights.

x.com/JPLindsley/status/1903017520186978563
Torq  10 | 1245
21 Mar 2025   #962
100 nukes will only enrage Russia, and ensure your destruction.

Russia's psychological states are not that important to us and, as I already mentioned, we would rather be destroyed than enslaved.

It's not enough to disable Russia, in any meaningful form.

Our aim is not to "disable" Russia. Our aim is to deliver - in case of Russian invasion - 50 of out of 200 of our top-notch, first-class warheads, of huge power, into 50 biggest Russian cities. Sure, we would be totally wiped out as well in such case, but the whole point is that Russia would rather leave Poland well alone than have nukes exploding in her 50 most populous cities. That's why those nukes will ensure peace between our nations. Simple as that.

Yes, I would like for us to live in a better world, but - unfortunately - we live in a world where only nukes can ensure a country's safety and freedom. And we have the bald KGB-ist and the Golden Cow to thank for that. Don't blame Poland. We only do what we have to do to protect ourselves from such madmen.
mafketis  38 | 11284
21 Mar 2025   #963
russian propagandist laughs at Trump envoy for believing obvious russian lie....

x.com/den_kazansky/status/1902829451576217793

russia is rubbing the US's face in its own weakness and fecklessness....
Torq  10 | 1245
21 Mar 2025   #964
x.com/den_kazansky/status/1902829451576217793

Ridiculous.

But it was only to be expected, I suppose. Trump vs Putin geostrategy game is kind of like Retarded 5-year-old vs Magnus Carlsen chess game.
Paulina  19 | 4558
21 Mar 2025   #965
Don't blame Poland. We only do what we have to do to protect ourselves from such madmen.

Exactly...

Everything in a nutshell:

"Russia Can't Believe it! - Poland Seeks NUKES & Half-Million Army!":



From the comment section:

"@florianhauptmann4443
I'm from Germany and in my youth we had many exchange programs with the pols and there are two things I can say about them. One they are the nicest people I've ever met and two if they say they do something they are dead serious!
Pozdrowienia z niemiec niech zyje polska!"
PolAmKrakow  2 | 955
21 Mar 2025   #966
@mafketis
You cannot get your enemies to negotiate without being nice to them and talking to them. Refusing to talk to Putin was disastrous, and the dumbest political positon in recent memory. There was never a military threat to Canada, Denmark maybe there was maybe there wasnt, I dont care honestly. Denmark will lose Greenland, and the majority two parties setting up government want to join the US. Polls taken in Greenland also show a majority want to be part of the US. Isn't the right of self determination what has been supported here on PF all along? Or is it ok as long as it doesnt involve the US or Russia?
Torq  10 | 1245
21 Mar 2025   #967
the US or Russia

"The US or Russia". :) You came a long way from "happy gulag b*tches" to "us and our pals Russians".

Polls taken in Greenland also show a majority want to be part of the US.

From which orifice of your body, if I may ask, did you pull this information?

​Recent opinion polls in Greenland indicate that the majority of Greenlanders oppose becoming part of the United States. A survey conducted in January 2025 found that 85% of respondents rejected the idea of Greenland joining the U.S., while only 6% were in favor, and 9% were undecided (...) Greenlanders overwhelmingly prefer to maintain their current political status and are not in favor of becoming part of the United States.

geopoliticaleconomy.com/2025/03/18/greenland-join-us-trump-minerals-china/

euractiv.com/section/politics/news/virtually-no-greenlander-wants-to-join-the-us-poll-finds/

"Virtually no Greenlanders want to join the US, new poll finds"

"85% of Greenland oppose joining USA"
Paulina  19 | 4558
21 Mar 2025   #968
You cannot get your enemies to negotiate without being nice to them and talking to them.

You're completely missing the point here.

Denmark maybe there was maybe there wasnt, I dont care honestly.

But we do care, a$$hole.

and the majority two parties setting up government want to join the US. Polls taken in Greenland also show a majority want to be part of the US.

Are you high or something?? :D That is simply not true! o_O:

theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/28/85-of-greenlanders-do-not-want-to-join-us-says-new-poll

"New opinion poll shows 85% of Greenlanders do not want to join US"
Torq  10 | 1245
21 Mar 2025   #969
Are you high on something?

Some very strong махорка. ;)

@PolAmKrakow

You have become very arrogant and full of yourself recently. Mend your ways because - frankly - you are becoming a hideous polyp on the healthy body of our glorious forum*.

* - phrase borrowed from Sorokin
Paulina  19 | 4558
21 Mar 2025   #970
Some very strong махорка. ;)

Yeah, I don't know what they take in the US, but it must be some strong sh1t, maybe even as strong as in RuSSia... o_O'

You have become very arrogant and full of yourself recently.

Maybe he's simply showing his true colours:


  • truecolours.jpg
Novichok  4 | 8789
21 Mar 2025   #971
your wish and see the US out of the war completely.

I would join Putin and finish this bs the American way - in three months or less.

We don't give a fvck about corrupt crapholes like Ukraine. We do care about countries that are capable of doing us harm - like Russia.

This is why we have a common objective in making Ukraine neutral and Putin as well as Russia feel secure. Nothing else matters. Not even Poland.
Torq  10 | 1245
21 Mar 2025   #972
@Paulina

We're in a difficult situation, Paulina. United Europe would be too strong for either Trump or Putin to mess with. Unfortunately, we are not united: Hungarians and Slovaks are obviously bought and paid for, Italians and a large part of German political scene are almost pissing their legs in anticipation of resuming "business as usual" with Russia, Spaniards don't give a toss really, the French are trying to hold it all together but they're a bit out of their depth, and Poland is still too weak.

That's why we have to do so many things at the same time: raising the 'Eastern Shield' line, creating proper satellite reconnaisance, beefing up armed forces, building strong territorial defense, trying to conjure up those bloody nukes etc.

Nothing else matters. Not even Poland.

Thank you, Captain Obvious. We know who trumpists are, we have seen their ilk too many times in history.
Korvinus  3 | 634
21 Mar 2025   #973
I would join Putin

no point in arguing with a lunatic
Novichok  4 | 8789
21 Mar 2025   #974
"New opinion poll shows 85% of Greenlanders do not want to join US"

Neither did Cherokees.

When you have a very big fist you don't care.

no point in arguing with a lunatic

We joined Stalin, moron.
Paulina  19 | 4558
21 Mar 2025   #975
We're in a difficult situation, Paulina.

Yes, but we usually function well in difficult situations. Poland has been through so much that due to its traumatic history it can operate well under stress (or at least that's my impression). 🤔 And we never give up!

Nothing else matters. Not even Poland.

Then we sure as hell need nukes.

We know who trumpists are, we have seen their ilk too many times in history.

:(((((
Novichok  4 | 8789
21 Mar 2025   #976
no point in arguing with a lunatic

We joined Stalin, moron.
Then we sure as hell need nukes.

As long as we have the codes, you can have 100 100 megaton bombs.
Torq  10 | 1245
21 Mar 2025   #977
we usually function well in difficult situations

Hmm... usually.

Looks like this time we are doing everything we can to be prepared. The rest is in the hands of God.

we never give up!

Sometimes we do. But not without putting up a fight.

As long as we have the codes

We broke Enigma, Ryszard. How long do you think it will take us to break the retarded American codes? What's the password - "MAGA123"?
Paulina  19 | 4558
21 Mar 2025   #978
As long as we have the codes

French nukes then it is! Vive la France!! 🇲🇫

Looks like this time we are doing everything we can to be prepared. The rest is in the hands of God.

Indeed.

Sometimes we do.

Only temporarily, never in the long term :)))
PolAmKrakow  2 | 955
21 Mar 2025   #979
@Torq
Full of myself? Maybe I am just tired of dealing with people who post based on emaotions. We want this we want that. The US should do this or that. The US has to do this or that. Unreliable US and all the other bull$hit posted here from really ungrateful fvcks. Get it through your thick fvcking heads. The US owes Europe nothing, the Europe who owes the US for 80 years of protection. Its Europe that owes NATO, not the US. I still support Ukraine, only from the standpoint of realistic expectations and probable outcomes. Not some rose colored glasses dreamer bull$hit.

As for Greenland, the news I read was over a week ago. Either way, they will be independent of Denmark shortly and then we will see what happens. My money is on them wanting a big brand new US military base at a minimum.
Korvinus  3 | 634
21 Mar 2025   #980
We joined Stalin, moron.

Yes, I know. Roosevelt have sold Poland to Stalin in Yalta.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 765
21 Mar 2025   #981
operate well under stress (or at least that's my impression). 🤔 And we never give up!

Wishful thinking and bottomless arrogance.How about coming back to earth. I love Poland as much or more than all of you political geniuses, saving the world
in every other post, not realizing that Poland is not the center of world. Well, geographically speaking, it's the center of Europe, which means Jack in the real world, not the fantasy land.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 765
21 Mar 2025   #982
We know who trumpists are,

Oh, we do? And who are we? Furthermore, who or what are the Trumpists? You don't mean over half of the voting population of the USA; you are so foolishly trying to insult.
OP cms neuf  2 | 1973
21 Mar 2025   #983
The US doesn't have to do anything for us PolAm - we get it. Vance turned up on his first trip to Europe and told us that clearly.

So the US can't have any objections to the decisions we make now.

As for who owes what for the last 80 years - forget it. It's over, sunk cost. For half of those 80 years Poland was abandoned to UNNR rule anyway, a poor dictatorship with low living standards
Przelotnyptak1  - | 765
21 Mar 2025   #984
the retarded American codes?

Are you sure you are not speaking from personal experience? God, give me patience
Torq  10 | 1245
21 Mar 2025   #985
And who are we?

Men of culture, men of intellect, men of honour.

half of the voting population of the USA

I don't blame the simple people. They are easy prey for demagogues like Trumpushka and Muskovite.

the last 80 years

At least in the last 80 years the USA enjoyed the world domination. Golden Cow dismantled it in a couple of months.
Paulina  19 | 4558
21 Mar 2025   #986
Unreliable US and all the other bull$hit posted here from really ungrateful fvcks.

Wait a minute... Since when Poles have been "ungrateful"? Or who are you talking about?
As for the US being "unreliable" - well, sorry to burst your bubble or sth, but due to our historical experiences we've learnt not to put too much trust in alliances... And the US isn't looking very reliable these days, so what's your problem with this view exactly?

The US owes Europe nothing, the Europe who owes the US for 80 years of protection. Its Europe that owes NATO, not the US.

The only time the NATO's Article 5 was invoked was by the US. You "owe" us our soldiers' lives and health, if anything. Although I don't think we view it in "owning" terms, since we're allies (supposedly), but since you keep talking about "owning"...

I realise that Europe got too comfy with the US protection, but I'd just like to point out that it's not like the US isn't benefitting from it in any way.

Germany is a hub for U.S. operations in the Middle East and Africa, for example.

The Rammstein base is the largest US air force base in Europe with the largest American military hospital outside of the United States. From this base is where US combat drone operations around the world are commanded. Whenever American (or Polish, etc.) soldiers got seriously injured in Afghanistan they would get transported to the Rammstein hospital to be operated on. And Germany is covering the costs related to American bases operating on their soil - I don't know what's the extent exactly, but it's not like it's completely cost-free for European taxpayers. 🤔

As for Greenland, the news I read was over a week ago.

Post it then.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 765
21 Mar 2025   #987
As for Greenland, the news I read was over a week ago.

Your realistic, sane assessment of the world, has a calming effect
surrounded by crazy political geniuses, all kinds of Google-based savants, genuine lunatics, and saviors if the mother earth, so thank you for your contribution.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 765
21 Mar 2025   #988
. Since when Poles have been "ungrateful"? Or who are you talking about?

Not Poland that is ungrateful,he means , you the Google savants, who arrogantly assume that you represent opinion of majority of the Polish population.
Torq  10 | 1245
21 Mar 2025   #989
surrounded by crazy political geniuses

It would have taken a crazy political genius indeed to predict that the USA would vote in the United Nations together with Russia, Belarus, North Korea and Nicaragua.
Velund  1 | 497
21 Mar 2025   #990
Isn't the right of self determination what has been supported here on PF all along?

No. Crimean self-determination was declared anathema. Polish self-determination century ago - totally different matter. So, self-determination looks like very special privelege here, not a right.


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