Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20

So what is Golden Cow going to do ?

Bomb Gaza using European airfields?

Kill innocent Gaza civilians who have nothing to do with that ?

He is a pussy and will roll back on that, just like his fake ass tariffs.

Dealing with the Middle East is a bit harder than firing a few transsexuals at home

Turning back to the illegal invasion of Ukraine by drunk rapists. Now the US pussy envoy to Ukraine has suggested having some McDonalds franchises would deter the NNNs from invading again !

Politico reported yesterday that four Trump officials have been talking to Zelensky's political rivals in secret, in a bid to find a replacement for him.

Source: politico.eu/article/donald-trump-allies-secret-talks-volodymyr-zelenskyy-opposition-ukraine-elections-yulia-tymoshenko-petro-poroshenko/

Wonderful. Fantastic. Amazing.

I'm not even sure what to call this...

How do Westerners maintain a serious face when they go about accusing Russia of "meddling in their democratic process"?

On just the example of Ukraine:

1) Biden publicly boasted about how he arrived in Kiev and ordered President Poroshenko to fire his Chief Prosecutor - otherwise he would not receive a further tranche of aid. Here's his direct words: "I said, 'You're not getting the billion. I'm going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money.' Well, son of a *****. (Laughter.) He got fired."

2) Trump tells Zelensky that unless he provides dirt on Hunter Biden, he can forget about military aid. Of course he got impeached for this, but still...

3) Trump says Zelensky has no legitimacy in Ukraine and must go, despite there being a constitutional ban on elections in Ukraine during martial law.

4) Trump talks to Zelensky's opponents, in an effort to encourage them to run.

Uhmmm... if that's not interference I don't know what is.

What were we accused of again? Hacking Hillary's email server? Spending a couple hundred thousand bucks on TikTok to help a Romanian candidate? Selling cheap gas to Orban?

How can any of these things be compared to your vice president flying into Ukraine, putting his feet on the president's table, and giving him an hours long ultimatum to fire a key government official? Hmm?

So many words about democracy, from the Beacon of Democracy, except it doesn't seem to understand what it is.

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America is no longer western, no longer part of the free world. Not for the next four years anyway.

Their Tsar Spangled Banner is in tatters and needs binning.

I don't care about any of that, it's the hypocrisy which makes me vomit.

They completely seriously accuse us of meddling where we shouldn't, when they are themselves the number one meddler in the world.

What do you call it when during an election week Elon Musk flies in and gives a political speech in support of a single party?

How about running offense for Netanyahu during elections in Israel, discrediting the Labor-led opposition as weak on defense and not a preferable partner for the US? This is in Israel - where defense and US relations are prime.

What is it, when you muse out loud that the Prime Minister of the UK might have willfully impeded the flow of an investigation into grooming gangs?

They do it everywhere, all around the globe, all the f*cking time - and do it blatantly - and somehow we're the meddlers.

What Russia does is absolute peanuts in comparison. I don't think Russia dares to behave in this way even within the CIS. We have a problematic relationship with Lukashenko. With Sarkisyan in Armenia. With Mirziyoyev in Uzbekistan. It doesn't mean we try to stage revolutions in Belarus or Armenia. There's still some fundamental respect towards the peoples of those places.

cause you attack children's hospitals with missiles

And.... never forget your place. America is better than russia so it's allowed to take liberties that russia isn't.

What is permissible for Jupiter is not permissible for a cow.

@BB
Putin has used Hamas as much as he could, and he can throw them away now. He is about to sign a deal with the new leader of Syria.

@Bobko
Keep talking. The truth about the west is not what the westerners want to hear. The US needs to stop getting involved with other countries afairs, and take care of itself. There is no need to do all it has always done for everyone else in the bvllshit name of "democracy".

@cms neuf
A pussy? Is that the best you got for the man who is going to end a war none of the EU fvcktards have tried to end for three years? Talk about being disappointed in the level of intelligence displayed here.

His method to end the war is to give in to all of the z North Nigerian Nazi demands. It is the textbook definition of being a pussy

Want more proof ? He just rowed back once again on his dumb tariff plan - after one phone call from Detroit and one from Mexico.

Plain as day that he is a pussy - evidenced by his bone spurs.

@Bobko

What do you think.....will Putin truly stop once he got those lost territories back?

I can't help comparing that with Germany after the defeat of WWI....all that hurt....humiliation....it's revanchism later only made everything so much worse.....

You must vomit a lot.

The hypocrisy of north Nigeria, illegally occupying a whole chunk of Ukraine and squealing when they take the area around Kursk.the hypocrisy of committing the most vile atrocities in Bucha and Mariupol and squealing when Ukraine stands up to the invaders, the hypocrisy of having a constitution while poisoning and jailing lawful opposition figures is staggering. Puke away, you've a lot to puke about.


We saw what they did in Bucha, we saw the thousands of children abducted from Mariupol. Isn't it obvious how they'll behave?

Thing is....Hitler might have gotten away with it all, had it been only about the lost territories and taking revenge for humiliations, had he stopped...but he didn't!

Got. And he wouldn't since decent people stopped him and his nation. Sadly not before they'd caused immense damage. One reason to thwart Putler now.

No territories were "lost«, Poland was never theirs, and if an ego is fragile enough to fixate on humiliation or feel wronged because they had to pay reparations for a war they started, they shouldn't be in power and their country should not have access to weapons.

Thanks....


Nun ja....all would be well if peoples in their majority would see it like you, but they rarely do....so that doesn't help.

Still comparing after-USSR-Russia with after-WWI-Germany would lead to the conclusion that there is a big chance for Putin to "win" parts of now-Ukraine back for Russia, with an accepting world community....but the question still stands, will he stop then?

at least you recognize who jupiter and the cow are.

russia will never break into the big time because it's committed to a social retrograde system (like china).

sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264999321003035

Russia will. They will because they can.

Plus, Russians have support of Serbians.

Nope. Dictatorships can't progress past a certain point which russia reached around 2010... then it's decline and increased repression all the way down.


Even committed russophobe that I am don't wish the curse of serbian support on them....

Yope.

Golden Cow Trump and his gangsters are moral dwarfs.

Today he is betraying Ukraine, tomorrow Poland. That is why we will stick to Europe despite traitors like rightist PiS or nationalists. .

Germany lost WWI, and was saddled with the hugely punitive Versailles Agreement. This wasn't fair, since Germany had not started that war, but it didn't matter because it lost.

Another reason, by the way, you may have been punished so hard at the end of WWI, is because of the devastating peace agreement you forced on us - Brest-Litovsk.

Maybe if you didn't force Russia to release Poland, Finland, the Baltics - then France and the allies would have gone easier on you in Versailles. But they saw what kind of peace agreement Germany forced on Russia (and would have probably tried to force on France and Britain), and gave it a taste of its own medicine.

Anyway - what are the parallels with Russia? Germany lost, while Russia is set to win this war.

Who are we to be revanchist against? None of our traditional "near abroad" ever supported Ukraine - so there's no reason to visit vengeance upon them. Even Georgia - whom Ukraine supported to the hilt during the 2008 war - did not lift a finger to help Ukraine.

Punish America and the EU for helping Ukraine kill as many Russian soldiers as possible? I think our "punisher" hasn't grown to such a size yet.

(Here is a hint)
You were right Novi, the more Trump forces the leeches to pony up to NATO like they agreed to the louder they squawk and cry.
They are finally getting the picture with a reality check.
Europe will now face the challenge of quickly raising its military budget, with one expert outlining the grim scenario that may face Ukraine without further international funding after a $900B rearmament package for the EU27.
Free college, free health care, free military security is all coming to an end in the EU.
As I keep telling you, "The U.S. gravy train is over for the E.U."
Tighten your belts because it is just starting.
Keep bad mouthing Trump and the U.S.A. and we will pull out of NATO all together and happily give Europe to Putin.

"But we want to be the happiest place on Earth...boo...hoo"

"And we don't like guns...boo...hoo...they are so loud...boo...hoo..."

"You promised...boo...hoo..."

Well....I didn't think I would had to spell it out, but okay.....the whole Hitler-thing was nothing but revanchism! To get back what was lost, or as they felt back then, was stolen....honor, pride, land!
You have to lose big first to give such nutters so much power!

You yourself talked about a feeling of loss and international humiliation after the end of the USSR, did you not?

We don't have free healthcare - just a sensible safety net

We don't have free college - just much cheaper than the US and you don't neee to bribe your way in or be good at basketball

Lots of the things that make Europe great don't cost money

And we will do just fine without US help - Golden Cow will be surprised

I understand now.

Georgia, Ukraine, Syria, Mali, Niger, etc is "revanchism".

You think it's normal that a country with an economy the size of Russia's is going around starting wars that even the United States would not attempt?

I'd say that qualifies as "acting out" and being revanchist.

That is, you are witnessing the revanchism now. I don't think there's much appetite to keep going, and now punish everyone who helped Ukraine. That's what I'm saying.

We're just not strong enough to end one war (the biggest war in the world since 1945), and start an even bigger one. That's just too much.

Let China be the center of world attention now. Russia deserves a good timeout away from the limelight.

And when it's China's turn to fight, we'll similarly not send a single soldier or a single weapon - as they did for us.

So the question isn't what the golden cow is going to do, he has already done it, the question now is what the European NATO countries that have welched on their NATO promises going to do.
Calling the U.S.A. names isn't going to fix your problem.

So well that you may be able to pay America back for 30 years of military security ? Hoot !

I am more inclined to think you are the ones that are in for the rude awakening.

Understood!

I guess it probably doesn't help that this affair is moving into its third year by now.....compared to the envisioned and promised "6 weeks".

I think everyone got the message.

Russia is not bluffing. Russia can't be pushed around indefinitely. At some point, Russia can and will act.

For thirty years people thought that there was only one country left in the world that could do things without looking over its shoulder - and that Russia was just being hysterical.

It took three years, but now everyone has come around to the idea that it's necessary and important to work with Russia, and you can't just ignore it.

It took something truly crazy to make this point, of course. China, whose economy is 10X our size, is looking at us in shock and thinking "those crazy Russians". Of course they are happy with what we are doing, but they still think we are crazy.

Anyway - I think everyone understands now.

Nope, and that is why Father Trump is ending it.

BS. You act as the West allows you. Golden Cow gangsters are loosening the Western grip right now, indeed, but the West isn`t only the US. Europe will keep you under the boot as long as you get civilised at last.

Germans surely....

But as long as Putin doesn't want to rebuild the USSR I guess he will get away with any peace treaty in Ukraine, even along new borders!