Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 19

Because they have no power without the nukes, they would implement every conceivable aggression if they could.We will see how strong the alliance will be after China achieves parity or what is more likely to be superior in the nuclear arena,
with unpopulated Syberia as an appetizing morsel.


Russian stuff , true it was delivered, but China,remained poor and undeveloped it took Western technology to make China a superpower

Scholz is so fuc*king pathetic, he deserves nothing but loathing and scorn.

"NO WHY TRUMP IS THROWING UKRAINE UNDER THE BUS?!!"

Bit*ch you're doing that yourself for years.

Scholz deserves criticism for his Ukraine policies. His government should have done more to aid Ukraine. But the truth is that Europe as a whole (except for the Baltics, Denmark, Rumania, the Czech Republic and the Netherland) failed to properly support Ukraine over the course of the war. And his responsibility for the current situation is less so than most, considering how much support Ukraine received from Germany.

"You forgot Poland": criticism as US, UK, France and Germany meet alone to discuss Ukraine​

notesfrompoland.com/2024/10/20/you-forgot-poland-criticism-as-us-uk-france-and-germany-meet-alone-to-discuss-ukraine/

Among the critics was the head of Poland's National Security Bureau (BBN), an agency that operates on behalf of President Andrzej Duda. Meanwhile, the former president of Estonia, Toomas Ilves, claimed to have been told that German Chancellor Olaf Scholz personally blocked Poland from attending the meeting.

I'm not surprised given the sort of politicians we have to suffer in Poland I would do it too.
Secondly I would expect it from a German with the name Olaf lol! Olaf the Clown.

Yes, genius...Germans killed only 25 million Soviets so you need to kill more by proxy.

Are you capable of shame, azzhole?

Do you think it was too few????

Hey Bobko, did you know that the border between Russia and China was created & demarcated by a Serbian Count Sava Vladislavić Raguzinski who was an adviser to Peter the Great. He is also credited with founding the modern Russian secret service.


(English subs)

clickforserbia.org/serbian-russian-medallions-episode-1-sava-vladislavic-raguzinski/


(Russian subs)

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sava_Vladislavich

An interesting anecdote is that he purchased a black slave in Constantinople and brought him to Russia who ended up being the great-grandfather to the famous Russian poet Alexander Pushkin.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abram_Petrovich_Gannibal



When the Russian Czar sent him to Venice to purchase marble statues and other artwork to decorate the Summer Imperial Palace in St. Petersburg Count Sava Vladislavić became friends with Vivaldi who dedicated an opera to him.

The best option is when imperial Russians kill each other, by millions. Like during their revolutions. Old good times.......

Leaving emotions and Polish-German relations aside here. This emergency meeting was about future support for Ukraine. Which Poland has made clear it won't be able to provide in significant quantities due to its' own needs. Note that Macron did not invite leaders from the Baltics or the Czech Republic to Paris either, despite their staunch support for Ukraine. Because they can not provide enough to make a difference.

This all makes sense from a reasoned point of view. But only if you assume western eu leaders have the interests of their populations or even the basic preservation of the nations they lead as even a tertiary concern. But if this was their concern they wouldn't be bankrupting their nations on pet social projects while accepting massive influx of alien cultures that any fool could see is disrupting cohesion in every country doing this.

I really do not want to accept this fact but no other option seems in any way viable:

The people in leadership positions among the establishment of all western nations are psychopaths. I'm not using hyperbole here at all. They really do not care one little bit (and actually seem to despise) for their national traditions or the people that are sustained by them. They've said over and over that national borders are an outdated concept while simultaneously lambasting their native cultures while praising various mud hut peoples.
The reason is simple. These people actually believe they represent the homo novus (new world man etc) and that the survival of their elitist clique is the only thing of any importance whatsoever.

Germany in particular would gladly stick their heads in the sand for eternity avoiding confrontation with Russia, hoping they can get cheap gas forever, Merkel is pretty much the poster child for "strong worded letter" spineless diplomacy. Before Merkel you had Schroeder as long time kraut Chancellor, who after all was one of the fathers of Nord Stream, for which he got kickbacks in the form of a cushy job at Gazprom after he retired from politics.

Germany, on the other hand, is rich enough to provide all the necessary means to kill more Russian since 25 million way back clearly was not enough to satisfy your grandfathers.

Your posts remind me of how gentle the USSR was with you in 1945. I would have executed every single SS and Gestapo. No trials. No appeals.

Plus 25 million random Germans of any age and gender to make things even.

BS. You are deeply infatuated with them after they rescued you from Polish insurgents in 1944. Ha!! If you met those Nazis today, you would lick their balls like crazy!!!! Ha!!!!

No, stupid Polack, those were Wehrmacht, not SS or Gestapo.

Darling, you don`t remember coz you were too little. SS also took part in suppressing the Rising. Go back to your books. HA!!!

Moron, I am grateful to those few Germans that saved my ass the way Putin's men saved U kids. My good guys were Wehrmacht, not SS or Gestapo.

That's why Wehrmacht foot soldiers were not war criminals. Duh!

What an azzhole...

Velina Tchakarova (Bulgarian resident in Austria)

x.com/vtchakarova/status/1891589739033084344

Everybody needs to read this.... almost too good to pick out individual quotes, but here are a couple....

"russia seeks to dominate Europe, while China asserts control over the South China Sea and Taiwan. Together, they are locking down Eurasia and the Arctic's new maritime trade routes. Against this backdrop, Europe's so-called "strategic autonomy" died the moment Russia attacked Ukraine"

"why hasn't Europe been fighting back? Ignorance, moral decay, lack of awareness, zero sense of urgency, a complete detachment from reality, and sheer complacency."

Read it!

Slaving as an emigrant commie engineer you didn`t have time to read books in the US. It shows. Wehrmacht were the same murderers as SS. Decent Germans even organised the touring exhibition on Wehrmacht WW2 crimes to dissipate popular myths about it cherished by common Germans.

The only people speaking any sense on this thread are
@PolAmKrakow,@Bratwurst Boy and @Ironside,readers, you can ignore all the other trolls and idiots.

@Korvinus


That is one way to see her. However what would you call than the many Western leaders who thought that she was too hawkish on Russia or took no interest at all? It is easy to forget, but Merkel had to overcome a lot of resistance from other countries who thought that e.g. the EU sanctions after Crimea were too tough.

Quoting:

While some Wehrmacht foot soldiers were tried for war crimes, particularly those involved in particularly egregious acts, the vast majority of them were not, and there was a widespread practice of not prosecuting lower-ranking soldiers...


Another quote... This one from Novipress:

Mancvnt, GFY...


A German traitor who brought Muslim cancer to Germans without asking first if they, the Germans, liked the idea.

Darling, you know shyt about real history. Go back to your toilet where you can play the gun shaped cleaning brush. hahahaha buhahaha

Trumps peace plan is leaked.
Wait until you read it.
A lot of dead boys in the name of GREED.

I would go easy with blessing posters here without giving credit to Bobko and Velund.

While you had nothing on the table, they were beyond polite as Russian patriots.

And let's not forget UK's participation in getting this war started. It was your POS Blow Job Borys who told Z to fight to the last Ukrainian when Z was ready to shake hands with P.

That was in 2022 and before 1.5 million U war casualties.


Whose greed?

Go read Trumps peace plan that was leaked and then you tell me.

You already know so what's the point...

Did I mention something about me being a genius?

Despite my dementia, I recall saying that the US and Russia have absolutely no reason to be enemies. In fact, according to me, these two countries should be the best of friends and never let little shltholes cause grief to us and Russia. Russia should use its power of persuation and we should use ours to keep things and assorted heroes under control.

From CNN:

Medvedev applauds Vance's 'humiliating rebuke' of Europe
The US vice president's remarks were harsh but truthful, the former Russian president has said

"Everyone expected to hear the usual partner-like curtseys to Europe and comments on Donald Trump's words about the end of the Ukrainian conflict. But he went and harshly scolded the Europeans who have completely lost themselves in recent years: your democracy is weak, your elections are crap, your rules that violate normal human morality are crap," Medvedev wrote.

Memo to Europe:

You don't matter. You are useless decomposing parasites to the US. So STFU and don't say nothing.

Donald Trump's demand for a $500bn (£400bn) "payback" from Ukraine goes far beyond US control over the country's critical minerals. It covers everything from ports and infrastructure to oil and gas, and the larger resource base of the country.

The terms of the contract that landed at Volodymyr Zelensky's office a week ago amount to the US economic colonisation of Ukraine, in legal perpetuity. It implies a burden of reparations that cannot possibly be achieved. The document has caused consternation and panic in Kyiv.

Hey, Euros, aren't you proud of the US and our president?

And you thought that it was about "freedom and democracy", azzholes...hahahahahahahahahahaha...

I am out of popcorn...

Trump for President!

Oops ... sorry...I forgot he already is...

I think both Trump and Putin came to that conclusion at their last meeting and that is why Zelenskeyy wasn't invited.
Headlines: 'Very difficult times for Europe': Trump 'making it clear' U.S. doesn't have their back.
Trump told them to pony up their 5% to NATO and they gave Trump the finger.
Do I need to finish the story ?

As the US and Russia prepare to meet today to have the first peace talks, Europe has been left on the sideline. All the European leaders who for three years wanted the US to fund this war are now upset that the US is the one leading a peace movement. I find this hilarious. Pay for the war, but after you do, we get equal say in how it ends? I dont think thats how things work in real life. EU politicians are delusional as to where they fit in the big scheme of things. Ukraine is already saying it doesnt like the proposed deal, and they might just blow up any chance of peace.

Talk of a China option for Europe is pretty funny. China laughs at the European stance on global warming, the Chineese economy is in free fall, and they offer nothing of value to Europe other than a third party to buy Russian oil and gas and circumvent sanctions.

Styarmer pledges the UK will send troops but openly says that without US security guarantees for Ukraine there will not be a long term peace. EU security guarantees are a punch line to a bad joke. The strongest will make the rules, and its time everyone just accept it and move on.