Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 19

At least our wars are fought for the right reasons. Not to screw someone out of their mineral wealth, or otherwise f*ck them.

The reason the so called "Global South" supports Russia, and not Ukraine and the West is because they possess the objectivity and the historic memory to recognize who is who. Nobody in Asia, or Africa, or Latin America seems to buy the nonsense narrative being sold by the West.

Russia was seen, and is still seen by many - as taking the right historical side in many of those conflicts you are alluding to.

In Korea, in Vietnam, in Angola, in Ethiopia, in Afghanistan - the Soviet Union stood on the side of people fighting for control over their own destiny.

The wars modern Russia has participated in were largely thrust upon it.

1) A secessionist war was started by Islamist radicals in Chechnya. Show me what country would tolerate this? How did America deal with the rebels, when it had its own little Civil War?

2) Georgia invaded two breakaway republics in a surprise operation, seemingly forgetting about the laws of physics and where it was situated geographically. Many of the people in South Ossetia have family members living on the other side of the border in Russian North Ossetia. Most of the population of Abkhazia hold Russian passports, a necessity after they were practically ethnically cleansed by the Georgians under Gamsakhurdia in 1990-91.

3) A coalition of ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hizbut i Tahrir, and the Islamic Movement of Turkistan - containing within its ranks many thousands of Russian citizens from the North Caucasus - attacks a Russian ally of 50 years. We were friends already with his father Hafez, after he came to power in a coup in the 1960s. How could we not protect him? How could we not use this opportunity to kill so many Islamists on Syrian ground, before they had a chance to return to Russia?

Ukraine is debatable.

But I don't accept that we fight as many frivolous wars as America does. Only those that matter.

Hey, cuntdodger, there is no such cuntry. There is "Russia". Just a friendly reminder...

Wow, you guys like the C word at the moment ! Has it just crossed the Atlantic ? In Britain it's often used in quite an affectionate or dismissive way

Bobko - I even forgot about those African wars when I was counting to 10 - I thought about the invasions of Poland, Finland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, the Baltics, Afghanistan, Georgia, Ukraine x 2.

On UNNR wars, I basically agree - ideological meddling that at least had some good intentions

@cms neuf
Now it has to be qualified by pressing a button? You really need to get your thinking straight.

@Barney
You have no idea what is left or right wing in the US. Left wing is democrats, right wing is republicans. Obama started more killing than everyone other than Bush in response to 911.

It will take one thing to get Vlad to stop bombing. A commitment of no NATO in Ukraine. That, and some other security agreements and rebuilding funds and long term peace is possible. The EU has to get its hands dirty and pony up the money now. Will Ukraine get into the EU? Not likely now. This whole war was a waste of human life on both sides, for next to nothing. I doubt the old Soviet maps of rare earths are very accurate as to the amounts of what is actually in the ground.

@cms neuf

Calling Poland, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia "invasions" is a bit rich. Probably not even 1,000 people were killed by Soviet soldiers across all 3 of these "wars".

If I'm not mistaken, the Poles suppressed their uprising themselves. There weren't even any Soviet military persons involved.

I am bigining to think the same thing PolAm.
The problem is that Ukraine doesn't have any rare earth minerals, it has a lot of "strategically important metals" like lithium.
That is true.
But actual rare earth metals ?
No.
Almost none.
There is no credible evidence that Ukraine has rare earth minerals.

I am talking about 1939. The invasion of Poland, by the UNNR, alongside your Nazi German allies.

Or was that for our own good, hurrah for the workers of the world !

Hungary - a straightforward invasion, followed by the cynical murder of Nagy

Czechoslovakia - tanks, aircraft, troops, crossing a border and removing a government. That's an invasion

I do, however members of the cult dont seem to understand that not being trump is not the same as being left wing. Not content with trying and failing to rename the Gulf of Mexico you cant define what is left and right.
You dont have any left leaning politicians in the US bar a few local good eggs.

I'm talking when Poland invaded Ukraine during the Polish Ukraine war of 1918-1919 and during the Polish annexation of Galicia in the 1920's.

The US uses 'rare earths' the way the russians use 'bio labs'... a fig leaf to justify other stuff.

I can:

Left is for:

abortions
open borders
men in women's sports
undocumented voters
welfare
hate speech laws
global warming propaganda
"green" scam
covid lockdowns
DEI
affirmative action
reparations
Department of Education
CRT

Right is the opposite. So add "no" to each and you there you have it.

See how simple things really are when you flip that switch from "Moron" to "Genius"...

I don't have to since I was born with that switch stuck on "Genius". That's why I left as soon as I could.

Wipe the good eggs running down your face and realize your ability to comment on anything American is greatly limited by consuming and blinding your liberal bias.

Well that was a proper invasion. No doubt about that one.

It's just that most historians would probably not classify the "other" Poland, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia as wars. They're usually put under the rubric of "Gomulka Thaw", "Hungarian Revolution", "Prague Spring".

I know this matters for little to Hungarians, Poles, and Czechs - but the internal debates about all three of these issues were fierce within the Politburo.

The military men, Zhukov specifically, opposed the use of force. Khruschev also supported them. The hard core of old Stalinists that remained even after the start of Destalinization, were the ones that felt Hungary must be crushed and brought back to heel - Molotov chief among them.

Zhukov had said then, "We should withdraw troops from Budapest, and, if necessary, withdraw from Hungary, as a whole. This is a lesson for us in the military-political sphere". In the event, he was overruled by the "hard men".

The "hard men", used the excuse that it was not so much the West that was the concern, but that our own Warsaw Pact brothers would judge us weak if we didn't react. The leaders of Romania, Poland, and Bulgaria were sending daily telegrams urging action. Even Mao Zedong wrote, insisting that it was important to crush the Hungarians.

Liberal bias can be fixed.

Being a moron and a habitual America-hater can't.

Seriously, I will never understand their attitude. If I had friends who keep me safe, buy my mediocre shlt, and happily spend their vacation money in my town, I would wish these suckers the very best. No, I would never tell them that they are crude, stupid, and that they don't know history and geography.

With that out of the way and before I sign off to do other things...

Greetings from America: Fvck you, azzholes...

Trump received a letter: "I followed the conversation with disgust..."

Former Polish President Lech Walesa and a hero of the fight against the communist dictatorship, signed a letter addressed to US President Donald Trump in which he expressed his "dismay" at his quarrel with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

The former leader of the Solidarity trade union and winner of the Nobel Peace Prize published on Facebook the text of a letter signed by 39 former Polish political prisoners.

"We followed your conversation with the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky with horror and disgust. We consider your expectations about the way to show respect and gratitude for the material aid of the USA to Ukraine in its struggle with Russia to be insulting," the letter reads.

facebook.com/share/p/18Gj3p9Qxa/

Let's recall that on Friday in the Oval Office in front of journalists, Trump accused Zelensky, among other things, of being ungrateful to the United States, of gambling with the Third World War, of being full of hatred for Russian President Vladimir Putin and that "the cards are not in his hands."

Walesa compared the atmosphere during that meeting to "interrogations by security services in communist courts".

He also called on the US to fulfill the security guarantees given to Ukraine in 1994 after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

"Those guarantees are unconditional: there is no mention of treating such aid as an economic exchange," the letter said.

Current Polish President Andrzej Duda said on Saturday that Zelensky should return to negotiations with the US.

@Barney
You mean the democratic cult that admitted to violating free speech rights, censoring people online and in public? Or the cult that fired people for not getting vaccinated? Or perhaps the cult who covered up a president who was mentally incapacitated? Maybe the cult that is ok with killing babies up to 8 months in the womb is more your style? Possibly the cult that promotes azz fvckers and chopping off of genitals?

And Goggle has changed the Gulf to Gulf of America. So there is that one fact that you also have wrong.

As if someone is going to give you 350 billion dollars and ask for nothing in return? 🤔

Trump is doing an excellent job for peace in Ukraine and security of the world. 👍🏻

Trump will surely of all people listen to you Walesa...

People in Poland who care what Walesa says constitute about 0,01% of the population. I guess he has some use abroad.

😁 The Ultimate American NPC hahahaha

American "man" weeps for Zelensky

bitchute.com/video/ZQuB9V9x2uNv

Still says Gulf of Mexico on my google, with the unofficial new name in brackets

Google. Not that Google is anything other than a private business which can say what it likes.

And only for users in your country.

Here it still shows its correct name, the Gulf of Mexico.

I think it is time for some summary of the issue.
Seems like Trump's rebufal of Zelensky has a deeper meaning, it is rebuff of the western European liberal elites and their current policy.
To put it in simple terms, Trump scolded the German EU and told them there is no free lunch. Your plot to drive the US from Europe failed.
His message was even more stern to the currently ruling oligarchy in the Ukraine.
You need to go because not only are thieving, corrupted, incompetent and ungrateful bunch, but you also dare to conspire with Berlin to drive the US from Europe.
It is not withdrawal from the word's affairs, but the opposite he aims to keep the world domination.
The only difference is the change of rules and way the US acts.
It is a good chance for Poland to step up and become a leading force in this part of the world, the first ally of the US in Europe..

German Google:


...can't decide! 🙄


If so, they should act soon.

Macron was already by Trump, Starmer too....even Merz has plans (as soon as he is official Chancellor)....what about polish plans?

Hey, Lech, nobody here gives a fvck about you and how you feel.


It was perfect.


...of riding on the backs of US taxpayers.

Iron, you are on the roll...


Math to prose translation: 0.01% = don't give a fvck

A lot of people are reporting it as an error. Why not have a go at that?

@Ironside

I doubt that trumplethinskin was thinking of Germany or even France. It's all about r*SSia and the ambitions of his boss, Elon Mush.

They probably already have....why else put (Golf von Amerika) in brackets?

I'd guess that it's because it's unofficial and not widely accepted.

We should rename a certain country North Mexico.

If Russia can replace Stalingrad with Volgograd, we can change Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of USA.

Trump was extremely nice to Mexico by naming it Gulf of America. I remember Mexicans saying: We are Americans, too, so we have a right to move North.

I would call it Gulf of Mexican Drug Smugglers.

Volgograd is in r*SSia.

The Gulf of Mexico is not in any single country.