Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 19

Paw, your comment sounds like it was written by an imbecile. How many times you were asked to limit your opinions to the facts you are familiar with
mainly cultivating turnips and glorifying their culinary benefits? You are much better when confined to Pawianowo.

Really ?
If the facts may be known, jon, there is currently a lot of confusion over Teflon Trump's proposed $500bn deal to gain control over Ukraine's rare earth metals wealth.
The problem is that Ukraine doesn't have any rare earth minerals, it has a lot of "strategically important metals" like lithium.
That is true.
But actual rare earth metals?
No.
Almost none.

It's a lot easier to tell an ungrateful prick to FO with his demands rather than someone who says thank you and makes polite requests.

Lindsay Graham - the most pro Ukrainian politician ever- said he told Zelensky how to deal with Vance and Trump during the press conference, and Zelensky did the opposite Following Starmers and Macrons example wasn't that difficult, instead of publicly contradicting. Biting the hand that feeds is so dumb. He got used to being to lecture and berate European leaders that he forgot he was dealing with the big dogs, and got ripped apart.

More ominously for him, Graham said perhaps America needs a new leader in Ukraine to deal with. When one of the most prominent war hawks start saying that the clocks ticking.

Do you appreciate that he got a little too wild under the influence of white stuff? Possibly.

He seems a little high on opiates to me. With what he has done, the war is shortened 👍🏻

It's hard to tell what his British bodyguards (aka liquidators) are pouring into him.... ;)

Admitting Ukraine into the EU would be an "unthinkable" act, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has stated, adding that accession to the bloc by Kiev could have severe economic and security consequences for Hungary.

Beyond economic concerns, Orban claimed that Ukraine's accession would lead to an influx of crime into Hungary. "I also don't see clearly how we will curb the crime that would inevitably flood into Hungary along with it," he said. "I cannot think of a single argument that would justify Ukraine's accession from Hungary's perspective."

Dear Prime Minister Orban, you are too logical.

Do what the Brits, Germans, and French did. Open your arms and borders and see what happens. That's what they did and look at the results.

Z finally got the opportunity to get Trump on his side, and he went in with more demands and more of his tough talk. He got exactly what he deserved, nothing. Now, he has a very limited amount of time before Trump will cut off support completely. Starmer and Macron did not help Z because they didnt give him the warning of stfu if you cant say something nice.

All the talk about Europe supporting Ukraine is really nice, but it is also useless. Europe has no weapons to send, and will not send men to fight. Ukraine will run out of men and the front lines will collapse without a peace deal in the next year. Europes plan according to Marco Rubio is to let the war go on for another year to continue to weaken Russia said an un-named EU prime minister. Thats not a plan, that is what sadists do to their enemies.

What played out on live TV was the dubest position ever taken by a foreign leader visiting the Oval Office. A disrespectful man thought he was an equal to the president of the United States and thought he could say what ever he wanted, and was then asked to leave. I am guessing within a week if Z doesnt make amends that we will see Trump make an executive order to stop weapons transfers, and then to start briniging US soldiers home who have been managing all the weapons transfers and logisticts. The EU has no one to replace the US in these matters, and cannot support Ukraine on their own.

Diplomacy? What diplomacy will pay back the American people for three years of this? That is the only diplomacy Trump cares about, and the only thing Z should be adressing if he wants to keep the US on its side. What Z has repeatedly done is the exact oposite, even with sleepy Joe he was not diplomatic. Ukraine needs a new leader soon because this one could get everyone killed.

Yeah I watched the other 40 minutes of the press conference, and came away surprised.

Trump and Vance never provoked Zelensky.

Trump was even saying that weapons supplies will continue. All the comments made by Vance, Trump, and Zelensky had been TOWARDS the journalists. Nobody ever spoke with each other directly.

Most importantly, Vance wasn't even talking to Zelensky.

Zelensky himself decided to interrupt Vance and start undermining his words, with his usual "there's no point in talking with Putin".

It's hard not to form the impression that Zelensky completely sabotaged himself. I take back my words from this morning that it was a cruel humiliation from Trump.

I think Trump and Vance were genuinely angry and irritated, and it wasn't done just for show. It's really hard to understand Zelensky's behavior, other than that he had not slept or was on some kinda drugs.

All the things Zelensky was saying are things you say behind closer doors, not to journalists to make Trump and Vance look stupid.

Another Ukrainian turbo diplomacy fail. Now Americans are probably beginning to understand why we invaded.

@Bobko
Anyone watching that press conference with an open mind can see Z fvcked up. You dont go the the country that you cannot survive without, and talk that way to its President, Vice President and Secretary of State in front of the press. His attitude and tone in the Oval Office were disrespectful, and not appreciative. These same traits I and others have pointed out many times the last three years. I dont know that Americans would understand why Russia invaded now, but I guarantee they have a lot less sympathy for Ukraine and Z after that episode, and most Americans didnt care much to begin with.

Calling Macron immediately after being kicked out of the White House and having your State lunch cancelled is a real sign that Z understands now how badly he fvcked up. He not only fvcked up for Ukraine, but he fvcked up Europe. If the US military is pulled out of Rzeszow, Ukraine is completely fvcked, and Poland is in deep trouble. This is the last thing Tusk wants, so he needs to be careful now with how he speaks about the US and Ukraine.

Once again though, Europe continues to ignore that peace in Ukraine is not the responsibility of the US, and Europe is incapable of protecting Ukraine without the US. So the diplomacy of European leaders coming out and saying they will continue to support Ukraine is really little more than public campaigning in the press and image maintenance. Tusk and the others need to fall in line or risk losing the US in NATO. I believe that is what the stakes are. People like Trump do not have a whole lot of patience when it comes to lifetime politicians, and his pen on paper can be an immediate threat to the peace and security of Europe if Russia was really prepared to attack other nations. A position I simply do not believe and is not supported by current facts.

Good morning. .. and all that.


What Zel giving to Trump is exhausted and empty di*k, and Trump knows it.


Giving? Giving?

Graftere, brate. Listen, Trump is happy that Putin don`t ask for Alaska. That much is Russia`s rocket technology in front of the USA and rest of the world. Trump knows it and appreciate Russia`s balanced stance. So Trump literally enters in Multi-Polar reality. Forcing on Russia anything in the region that is 10.000 km away from the USA, on Russia`s borders is only the joke. Actually, Trump don`t give a s*it for the complete Eastern Europe, great deal of Western and Northern Europe and for the most part of anything between Israel and Russia.

Not even to speak of the moves of old families, in the shadows.


Nope. The mother is of selected breed.

Melania Trump is of Serbian noble origin.