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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 19


Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11898
1 day ago   #271
I would also appreciate if you stopped trading with the US.

Why hate and stopping the trade if it's about Europe starting to pull it's weight militarily....we aren't and shouldn't be enemies!

How do you Europeans think you will magically skip all of history,

An outside threat!

Nothing better to bond and connect a disunified pit of different people, becoming a "we" and an "us"....right?
Bobko  27 | 2128
1 day ago   #272
is he any more positively oriented toward russia than Zelenskyy?

Nobody knows exactly. As a military man, Zaluzhniy has made very few statements outside of his own domain. This doesn't mean that he's dull, or otherwise simple, just - again - that he's a military person.

We can guess at his views from the company he keeps, however. He's friends with many leaders of nationalist battalions and brigades. He had a portrait of Stepan Bandera in his office, when he was Commander in Chief. Unlike the current CiC, Syrsky, Zaluzhniy is an ethnic Ukrainian - and Ukrainian was apparently his mother tongue. He never studied in Moscow, but instead at the Odessa Academy.

From all this, we can guess that Zaluzhniy is probably worse than Zelensky from the point of view of what happens inside his head. This doesn't mean he will necessarily be a bad president for Russia.

I stand by my prediction that russia wants elections in Ukraine mainly so it can target polling stations

... and what exactly is the point of bombing people that are queuing to vote? That would be disastrous for Russia.

If we are the ones, together with Trump, that insist Zelensky has to organize a vote - why on Earth would we then try to sabotage this vote's legitimacy? What's the logic here?

There's enough problems with this vote, that people can point out the problems with it without Russia's help. First of all, 5-7M Ukrainians live in Russian occupied territory. We're probably not going to help them cast their ballots. People can blame us for this easily, and consequently pronounce all of the elections as a sham. So then - this is not something that we want. We want the elections to happen, and give us a new person to talk to, because this one hates us too much to see clearly.

russians are liars and thieves with no honor....

American Pot, meet Russian Kettle.
Novichok  4 | 8704
1 day ago   #273
we aren't and shouldn't be enemies!

The fastest way to make a man get a gun is when the cops are an hour away and the bad guys are next door.

He will get a bigger and better gun when you tell him that the cops are not legally obligated to come to save his azz - which the US Supreme Court declared to be a fact, BTW...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11898
1 day ago   #274
The fastest way to make a man get a gun....

That's what I meant too....

In the long run this whole tohuwabohu with Trump will prove to be positive for Europe and also the US. Europe will become a better ally and that will altogether strenghten the West and his cards in this new much more brutal game of world power.

Of course such huge and fast changes will always come with shocked confusion and rattling, but there is no need for hate!
mafketis  38 | 11123
1 day ago   #275
doesn't mean he will necessarily be a bad president for Russia.

Then should elect him president of russia ASAP!!!!! What are you waiting for???? He could drag the country into the 20th century (21st would be a stretch)
Bobko  27 | 2128
1 day ago   #276
Then should elect him president of russia ASAP!

We have Darth Putin, Lord of Darkness, until at least 2036. Maybe after that - Zaluzhniy is young enough.

Hopefully Putin will be able to use his influence on Trump, to convince him to repeal the 22nd Amendment - which limits him to two terms.

We hear that many people are already whispering such things into Trump's ear. But who better to sell it, than the man that made the Russian Constitution his b*tch?

There may be all sorts of contingencies Trump is worried about, but Putin is there to calm his nerves and steer him straight.

With two eternal president kings, Russia and America can forge solid bonds. We'll invite Xi too.

Then, we marry Ivanka and Jared's kid, to Putin's daughter's kid - and we'll be back to the 19th century.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11898
1 day ago   #277
and we'll be back to the 19th century.

Oh come on....the backbone of most important royals has always been german! :)
Bobko  27 | 2128
1 day ago   #278
the backbone of most important royals has always been german! :)

Well Trump is German, and Putin is a huge lover of Germany, speaks German, and sent his kids there. There's also some proof that Putin himself has some German blood.

Your criteria are nearly satisfied.
mafketis  38 | 11123
1 day ago   #279
repeal the 22nd Amendment

Amendments are not repealed. Nothing can be removed from the US constitution, only added. Enforcement of an amendment may be cancelled by later a later amendment but the US does not have the discipline to actually pass any amendment at present.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11898
1 day ago   #280
Your criteria are nearly satisfied.

....hmmmm.....what do we do with Trump's scottish half?

Okay....it's a start I guess! 😎
Bobko  27 | 2128
1 day ago   #281
Amendments are not repealed

Ok nerd!

I think any normal person understands that the 18th Amendment (Prohibition) was "repealed". It's not so important that the repeal happened by the mechanism of introducing the 21st Amendment.
mafketis  38 | 11123
1 day ago   #282
Ok nerd!

Who are you, Nick Rekieta?
Bobko  27 | 2128
1 day ago   #283
Who are you, Nick Rekieta?

I have no idea who the f*ck this person is.
Bobko  27 | 2128
1 day ago   #284
Here's a post I'm very happy to make!

Have you Ukraine lovers noticed how... when all your dreams came crashing down, and everything we said ended up being true - none of us spent anytime gloating?

Everyone is having very civilized discussions about the meaning of "European Sovereignty", and what the make up of the peacekeeper contingent should be.

Now imagine if Ukraine was winning? I think I would be upgraded from "orc" and "slave" to something much more edifying.

I think there would be a months long circus, where CMS Neuf, Korvinus, and Pawian give me a daily taste of their penis.

Maybe Russians are not such hopeless agents of propaganda as everyone tried to make it?
Novichok  4 | 8704
1 day ago   #285
t=... will altogether strenghten the West...

...and above all Germany.

Like it or not, you, Germans, are Europe's spine and muscle. Embrace this role and stand proud.

If you need an extra pair of middle fingers, I am always available.

none of us spent anytime gloating?

I gloat only when Western azzholes aka "volunteers" die. Never when Russians or Ukrainians.

The cherry will be Z's trial and execution.
Bobko  27 | 2128
1 day ago   #286
above all Germany.



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mafketis  38 | 11123
1 day ago   #287
I have no idea who the f*ck this person is.

law blogger (became youtube famous after covering some high profile trials) started off as a settled family man and then became addicted to cocaine and swinging and got in legal trouble

he always called his critics 'nerds' (a 1980s insult).

what exactly is the point of bombing people that are queuing to vote? That would be disastrous for Russia.

Were human safaris in Kherson disastrous for russia? Bucha? Mariupol? Targetting a kids hospital?

You're russian, surely you understand the importance of performative cruelty in russian culture....
Novichok  4 | 8704
1 day ago   #288
Germans killed fewer people than abortion "clinics" did in the US.

For a moment, I will ignore the fact that the Allies did everything humanly possible to provoke WW2.
cms neuf  1 | 1841
1 day ago   #289
Bit early to start planning the victory parade Bobko. All that has happened is that Lavrov got a free cup of coffee with some clueless American yes men. Probably better than the bitter Nicaraguan swill you get in North Nigeria. And well done to Zelensky for calling Trump out - has given him huge kudos here in Poland.
Ironside  50 | 12904
1 day ago   #290
Immediately after Munich Macron invited european leaders to start something..

Debauchery and an orgy, most likely with minors from the Epstain booklist.
BB what so-called leaders can do. They are those who f up for all of us and then refused to go, they are past the expiry date for at least two decades.
They are incapable of doing anything new or needed. If the EU is to survive new ideas and new people are needed and pronot.

Also, I disagree that the US treated all EU countries the same, they made an exception for Poland. Unfortunately, Tusk is in charge in Poland and he is as bad as his masters in Berlin. I would love to see that scum hang for treason.
France imported from Russia during the war a gas worth billions of dollars, and Germany imported from Russia ( via Kazakhstan )oil worth a billion $.
It is more that all the aid and military equipment they send to Ukraine, yet they boldly yapp about sanctions against Russia and call Trump pro-Rusian, who was sucking up to Putin all the time without shame if not Macron ( called in Poland Mikron ) and German leaders? F hypocrites!
No one in Europe helped Ukraine as much as Poland but only Russia acknowledged it.

The sh't stars to get real and there is no room to play bingo anymore. Poland needs to find its place either as the US strong ally in this part of the world with nukes of course, a strong military and Sweden, Romania, and Turkey as our close partners, or the system in the EU needs to be radically changed and we need to look in China direction.
Novichok  4 | 8704
1 day ago   #291
surely you understand the importance of performative cruelty in russian culture....

Hey, Kutas, great post! That Russian Little Red Riding Hood always reminds me what I had for dinner yesterday.

The cruelty of Masha and the Bear is so bad that it still gives me nightmares...

My granddaughters must be psychos - they loved the girl, the Bear, and even the wolves...

No one in Europe helped Ukraine as much as Poland...

...and made the war longer and deadlier...What an accomplishment...
Ironside  50 | 12904
1 day ago   #292
.and made the war longer and deadlier..

Not for you to judge and not for you to decide right and wrong there. It is Ukraine's choice to fight or not, nobody made them or forced them to defend themselves from Russian incursion.
Also, as a gun owner, you are a big walking hypocrite. Unless those guns are only for show.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11898
1 day ago   #293
If the EU is to survive new ideas and new people are needed

F hypocrites!

Agree (with both)....most Europeans are quite unhappy with their top folks because of that too! But till now there was not much reason for drastic changes. As long everything did stay the same....that clogged wheel didn't need to turn, much.

But now it was clear for all to see....Europe can't go on like it did. But it won't happen overnight either. I guess in 5 years or so the changes to today will be quite dramatic!

But China??? Nah....
Ironside  50 | 12904
1 day ago   #294
..Europe can't go on like it did

I even got a raw idea - how to change it.
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But China??? Nah....

Look, I know Germany was f big time by China and you are still sore. However you always need an option if you have only one option there is no choice.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11898
1 day ago   #295
if you have only one option there is no choice.

....let us look first some more, such thinks shouldn't be hasted!
Bobko  27 | 2128
1 day ago   #296
OMG!

Look at this headline!


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Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11898
1 day ago   #297
....it's not worse than "thinks" instead of "things"....I better go now....

Good night all!
Ironside  50 | 12904
1 day ago   #298
Look at this headline!

Well in a way he is, On the other hand in Ukraine nobody as yet was in charge who hasn't been supported by the oligarchy. Is Trump trying to get rid of them?
Bobko  27 | 2128
1 day ago   #299
Well in a way he is

He's a president whose term ran out many months ago. In that sense he is illegitimate.

Legitimacy is important when you kidnap people on the street, forbid any travel abroad, and force everyone to watch a "national television marathon". Even Putin doesn't kidnap people off the street, forbid them from traveling, or force everyone to watch the same tv channel.

Also, last week Zelensky applied sanctions against his predecessor - Poroshenko. The former president is now to be stripped of all assets, and has to surrender his travel documents. Seems like somebody is getting ready for elections, hahaha! In Russia we usually put our opponents in prison, but sanctions is also an interesting maneuver. In any case - slapping sanctions against your predecessor sounds pretty dictatorial to me.

Poroshenko defended Ukraine from the previous onslaught. He used the years of Minsk II to prepare Ukraine for an all out war. His reward is sanctions from the former comedian Zelensky. Life is truly stranger than fiction.
Tacitus  2 | 1264
1 day ago   #300
Nonsense. Zelensky is the legitimate president of Ukraine. He is in no way or form "illegitimate".

put our opponents in prison

More often than not you murder them. Prosecuting former leaders for criminal offenses is perfectly normal and in fact one of the things that separates functioning democracies and dictatorships. Hence Putin bought his initial appointment as president by pardoning Jelzin and his family.

I get your excitement Bobko, but dont take us for idiots. We know what Ukraine is and what Russia is.


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