Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 19

"Only" 20% of the pre-war Polish population was exterminated. Russians probably would expect that we thank them for this.

Thank for what?? For the war they started with Nazi Germans to conquer Poland??

Fekk you, imperial Russians! You were fekking Nazi allies and that`s true history which will remain in books for ever. Your pathetic propaganda can`t suppress it.

emoptional diarrhea and slobbering all over people and wallowing in self-pity are not 'living'.... that's an animal existence deprived of reflection and consciousness...

more death cult (she's the gift that keeps on giving)

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I be she had some parties to remember after he son died so she could get her roof fixed....

That is what heresy leads to. We should have had a robust Inquisition but it is too late for that.
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Look, maf is an American your threats are wasted on him. Goes over his head.
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If you will get cancer (again?) don't blame anyone but yourself.
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I read it many years ago in school, but you made me want to read it again now.


Unfortunately, it's not only the Southern Baptists and other fringe elements; the American Catholic Church is deeply involved as well. They went down the rabbit hole big time.


You are intellectually lazy, that's all.

A play in one act:

USA (15 years in a row, over the loudspeaker):

- WARNING! Everybody fcuk in the arse! Repeat, this is not a drill! Everybody fcuk in the arse!

EUROPE: Well, can we...

U.S.A.: NO! Start right now, I'll come check it out.

2025, suddenly...

USA: Hey, Europe. What the fcuk are you guys doing up your arses?! What are you, f@ggots?!'

For those of us that don't want a forever war in Ukraine, it's actually to Poland's detriment for a cessation of hostilties. We only have the interests of Ukrainian lives at heart,

So you NAFO bots can suck it.

In a recent interview with the Financial Times, Polish President Andrzej Duda warned that the war's end could trigger a surge in international organised crime, first flooding into Poland and then spreading across Europe and the US. This is a concern that has long been whispered in western political circles. Duda likened the situation to the post-Soviet 1990s when Afghan war veterans fueled a wave of gangsterism and violence across the former USSR.

Having lived through those times, I can say this: the aftermath of Ukraine's war could be even worse

@amiga500
Plenty of Ukraine gangsters waiting to pounce on weapons opportunities.

Z once again talking out of his azz saying the US is afraid of Russia, while openly and publicly saying that without the US helping Ukraine it will likely cease to exist. Real talk about reality, but hey lets talk about how we feel some more.

not afraid of russia but terrified of russian collapse.... if you haven't noticed western leaders are bending over backwards to try to prevent russians from destroying themselves then you're not paying attention.

They're hoping russia will come to its senses and de-escalate.... but expecting rational behavior from russians is..... not a winning strategy.

Meanwhile, I try to avoid talking about particular short term results but this from Pokrovsk is interesting....

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@mafketis
I have said from the beginning, the world needs Russia. If Russia and the US are not seen as enemies who are the enemies? The MIC needs Russia. The EU and NATO though do not need Ukraine and it is very clear that NATO is completely off the table as well as US troops. It will be at least ten years after the war ends before Ukraine is even close to an EU standard for admission.

What is ten years compared to a millenium of Kyiv Rusland history???

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz boiler plate

So, did the MIC sucker putin into invading or was it his own idea?

Is the MIC behind this?

x.com/bopanc/status/1890664240610001326

Ukraine is best off with Russia. This much is clear now.

No chance of NATO. No chance of the EU. No aid in reconstruction - instead a $500B bill from Trump.

They'll be in even worse shape than now - in ten years - not... "finally in shape to be admitted to the EU".

Even Russia haters must know by now, that it would be a much more prosperous place in ten years if it starts working with Russia tomorrow.

Money earned in Ukraine, will stay in Ukraine and work to the benefit of its citizens - not for paying reparations to Donald Trump that exceed the size of his initial help by 3X.

Instead of living like bums in Europe and America, people can come back to their homes. Build businesses. Take advantage of a market 200M in size, without any stupid EU regulations or US tariffs.

I think the greatest indictment of Zelensky is not the grotesque campaign of kidnapping people on the street for the army, but that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian refugees have returned to their homes in "occupied areas".

If Zelensky can't take care of people to such an extent, that they rather move back into their bombed out towns and live under the so called "aggressor" - what's the use from him?

One day, the refugee benefits and other nice things will end, and you'll be left second class citizens in someone else's home. Without a country, without a language, and without a culture. Your kids will be Americans and Germans.

In support of my claim above that Ukrainian refugees are returning to "occupied areas", an article from the Kyiv Independent.

I trust nobody will call this paper a Russian propaganda outlet.

Source: kyivindependent.com/150-000-ukrainian-idps-have-returned-to-occupied-regions-mp-says/#

Quote:

"Of the approximately 200,000 people who fled Mariupol after the launch of the full-scale war, one third have now returned to the occupied city, Tkachenko said. "According to estimates, this is approximately 67-70,000 people. In my opinion, these are terrible figures," he said

Tkachenko is an MP in the Verkhovna Rada, that chairs a commission on reintegration of occupied territories. So he probably has some idea of what he talks about.

I totally agree with him that these are terrible figures for Ukraine.

It means that three years of brainwashing and propaganda, was not enough to convince Ukrainians that Russians want to kill them. People still are able to see through bullsh*t.

This is very bad news for Ukraine indeed.

I click on your link because it does not look plausible and read the first paragraph

"Editor's note: Maksym Tkachenko later walked back on his statement, saying that no reliable data supporting the figure exists. He called this figure an "unfounded and emotional assumption." We have reported on the latest developments here: MP walks back his statement on number of IDPs returning to occupied territories."

More nonsense

Z-P=0

Dying for a zero is beyond moronic....That's why no PF Polak or Brit went there to fight for "freedom and democracy".

Azzholes...

Dude, wake up.

I didn't want to write a whole f*cking essay on the subject, but there's important context here.

The guy's statement, caused major political waves in Ukraine.

Several ministers and Zelensky himself called the guy out for making "damaging" remarks.

But again - remember who this guy is. He's not some babushka on the corner selling sunflower seeds, that had overheard this rumor from the local alcoholic.

He's the guy in Ukraine's parliament that is charged with monitoring the situation with repatriates and refugees.

If you believe his statement was "unfounded and emotional" I got a bridge to sell you.

Seriously - think about the likelihood, or relative probabilities of his statements being true, or being "emotional".

Russian demands are actually much worse than Carthaginian Peace eg (146 BCE), and they didn't survived. Their culture got ereased, their population almost all dead or enslaved. Worse than RU demands, I can only think on Soviet Demands upon Finland pre Winter War and Japanese "Twenty-One Demands" on China (1915).

In case of Finland, Finnish negotiators said that he wouldn't have signed the deal, if SU didn't had dropped its most insane terms. Like bases in Finland and demilitarization of Finland, Finland would resist to the last Finnish. You blame Zelensky for resisting, but IDK any leader that would have capitulated to RU demands.

Hey, moron, how many Crimean Ukrainians were forcibly removed or executed after Crimea joined the RF?

"Many" is not an answer.

I am waiting for that moment when P, T, and Z sign a peace agreement that will be a copy of the one in 2022 - before U was destroyed and a million men died.

Somebody here will have to eat a lot of shlt. All I know is that it will not be me...I will be gloating 24/7 for at least a week...

There also may be just a dozen or so articles on the subject in English, but there are literally hundreds and thousands of links in Russian and Ukrainian.

People are returning to occupied areas.

They go through hoops to manage it. They have to fly to Turkey, then to Rostov or Moscow, and from there make their way by car or train back to their homes.

Oftentimes looters and marauders had already robbed the apartments clean. In some other cases the neighbors did a good job protecting the property.

There's forums lasting hundreds of pages, where people exchange advice on how to make it back home, how to get Russian docs, where to send the kids, how to receive their pension, etc.

Nobody is killing these people that want to come home.

What's true, is that there are very active recruitment campaigns among them. The Kremlin really wants Ukrainians to shoulder more of the burden of this war. Some people may view this as cruel.

Due to your beloved censorship standards, we can`t say for sure. It is probably hundreds. Tens would be too low and thousands too many.


Of course. Coz imperial Russians need them as cannon meat in Ukraine war. Simple.

Cruelty is all Bidet's and his British wh*re, Blow Job.

BS. The biggest cruelty to you is our debates.

So true.
Trumps talk with Putin seems to be the first step in ending the war.
J.D. Vance as much as told Zelensky that the U.S. money train is over.
Zelensky knows this war is over and that Ukraine will have to make some huge concessions.
So will Russia however.
Now Zelensky is telling the E.U. to build up their military to stop Russia's aggression.
Problem is that Russia has out spent all of the E.U. put together on their military in the last year.
In so many words Trump has told Ukraine to concede or die.
Trump also said the E.U. better start building up their defenses because it was up to Europe to police the cease fire agreement.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who has said the US would no longer prioritize European and Ukrainian security.
This week, he told NATO allies that European and non-European troops - but not Americans - would have to police any agreement between Ukraine and Russia.
I guess the next time Father Trump tells his allies to pony up their 5% they better listen because now they have no choice.
Not quite so funny now is it Europe.

Yes, Mr. Pozner, anything you say Mr. Pozner....

Chancellor Olaf Scholz of Germany on Saturday accused Vice President JD Vance of unacceptably interfering in his country's imminent elections on behalf of a party that has played down the atrocities committed by the Nazis 80 years ago.

The US will interfere all it wants. Why? Because we can and there is nothing, dear Olaf, you can do about it.

I never enjoyed that American big fist as much as now...Oh what a feeling...Total superiority as a country and mine personally...


They must be missing Biden as president more than Biden himself.

A person decides to join the Russian army, after living his life as a Ukrainian citizen... who am I to judge him? He may very well pay with his life for this decision, so it must have been considered deeply enough for me not to get involved.

The first batch were the Crimeans. They were and are extraordinary. In many ways, they were the hot red core of the successful southern invasion. They're more Russian than pre-2014 Russians.

Then came the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics' militias. They fought harder than the Russians did, on many occasions. Even if indisciplined and disorganized.

Now there are tens of thousands of Zaporozhians and Khersonians fighting in the army.

by getting run over by a tank on his "own" side!!!! russians not only leave their own, they run over their own with tanks before doing so!

x.com/MaxRTucker/status/1890864067100741832

Yes, genius...in wars men die...

Without the US and Poland, fewer Ukrainians and Russians would die...

This makes both countries guilty of war crimes.

No, morons, taking kids to safety is not a war crime. Funding and supporting someone's war is.

While loudly shunning cheap Russian energy, the EU has nonetheless been importing record levels of it, in the form of LNG, at several times the price.

Russian oil being shipped to the EU has surged by putting on a fake mustache and arriving on European shores from Türkiye, India, and China, with Foreign Policy magazine underscoring just last month that Europe "somehow still depends on Russian energy."

The end result is essentially a virtue tax that gets passed on to the consumer.

The worst Russophobes are - guess who - EU PM women!!!

That's how stupid women are...

BTW, I like that "virtue tax" term...If it feels good, never mind it makes no sense and it costs 4 x more, we must do it!

But why???

Because it feels good!!!