Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 17

And it just gets worse for Russia,besides their illegal invasion of Ukraine, they are now helping Syria in their civil war.
They are too stretched and too poor to go on for much longer.

The truth about Russia from a RUSSIAN!

Yeah....that could become a topic in Moscow....two wars at once....but frankly everyone sane would prefer Russians fighting islamist nutters instead their neighbours!

The way the Russians are doing it has the opposite effect though. Targeting civilians, encouraging Assad in his brutal opression only ends up sending more people in the arms of islamists.

The North Nigerians are complaining at the UN about Ukrainian interference in Syria.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm being too russophobic.... and then I find something like the following and I realize I'm a big softie and I need to up my russophobic rhetoric past 10 and up to 11.... it's hard, but I've got to keep going.

It's a translated conversation on the mindset of russians (both inside and outside the war).

Participants:

Aleksandr Nevzorov, Russian - (began as a journalist then became a politician and because he has botha mind and a conscience (many russians have one or the other, not many have both) he changed his views over time and became a critic of things he had earlier supported (russian imperialism, putain etc).

Volodymyr Zolkin, Ukrainian - best known for videos of interviews with russian pow's (often involving heartbreaking calls to their 'families' who shriek at them about money, show no concern for them and occasionally pretend not to recognize them). He's also taken them to houses of worship (according to their religion).

Of the two, Nevzorov is by far the harsher. Zolkin tries to show some kind of rapport or understanding of the brutally uneducated prisoners he's dealt with though he fails because, as a modern person, he cannot enter into the 18th (or earlier) mindset of modern russian peasants who have trouble understanding the simplest of concepts that aren't right in front of them.

tldr: modern russia deprives people of their basic humanity and (Nevzorov) claims the heart of the russian soul is consumed with envy and a feeling that they deserve things that others have.

Then why is Germany building bunkers and preparing for war ?
Russia has over a million active personal and over two million in active reserve.
Russia has the world's fifth largest army and the biggest nuclear stockpile in the world.
Europe must be able to protect itself
Hence there is an entire European power elite that fights for increasing militarization with the aim that Europe can defend itself without depending on NATO or the United States.
Trump could very well say that this is a European war and that it does not involve the U.S.A. which it doesn't.
Instead of American blood being spilled on foreign soil it very well could be European blood spilled on European soil.
And by the looks of things, the holiday is over and you European kids and you will be registering for conscription in 2025.
I will take that bet.

Decades of fundamental misunderstanding of russian national aspirations?

Realization that the tepid non-response to 2014 has led directly to the current moment and russia won't stop until it's stopped.

russia can't take over Europe any more than it can take over all of Ukraine... but it can do a tremendous amount of damage trying and sh[twit westerners like Merkel, Scholz, Biden, Macron etc either didn't care or didn't realize until now that that's the case.

WWIII has already begun (weak responses by the west are largely responsible) the only question is how bad it will get and where and if nukes will be used and if so how many and where (I wouldn't be completely surprised if russia thinks it can nuke somewhere in Syria to try to make an idiotic russian point about something).


It's not like Europeans were sitting at home safe will American soldiers fought.... plenty of European blood (far more than American) was shed on European soil by the lovers of war.

I know, I posted that months ago only to have you diminish me.

Ask the French about that.

As it should have been.
Personally I would like Trump to bring all of the American troops home and have them replaced by European conscription of the Woke and atheists.
They just might think different once they got kicked out of their pussy comfort zones and into reality.

Who are "the others"?
What are "things"?

Shooting mental blanks is so much fun, isn't it...

If Russia went al in on Ukraine it would have rolled through. Vlad didnt prepare correctly. If he did a full mobilization, Ukraine would not exist in 90 days. If when this was is over Russia does fully mobilize to go into Europe in ten years, I hope Europe is prepared, because it has failed to prepare for the last 30 years.

@Tacitus
I will saks the question. Since when is Assad or Syria any of our business? Our meaning the US or Europe. Since when is Israel, Iraq, Iran or any other turd world country out business? Its only our business when it has natural resources the west can exploit. It usre isnt about freedom or democracy.

It sure isn't. "Freedom and democracy" is a slogan for the naive morons being prepared to be canon fodder - right along with "better dead than red".

I was "red" and loved every minute of it - with "dead" as the other choice.

Seems to be a talking about from the NN trolls this week. That they haven't started and once they do they will finish this war in a few weeks.

It is complete nonsense. 40 percent of their budget is committed to this war. For sure they have some good troops in reserve - they are guarding Putler against his own people.

Syria isn't our business but it's a very sensible move by Ukraine to try and stretch the BBs there, which can be done cheaply using local nut jobs.

And that's why Russia wants to end it.

40 percent of our budget is committed to waging wars and that's why the US wants to continue this one, too. Ideally, we would be in a state of war 100% of the time for US MICC to have a steady cash flow.

Why do you think Poland is getting that stupid US base? Because the scum in DC thinks that Russia will invade Poland?

How about to justify NATO and the trillions we spend on this useless bullshit...

Would you want to move into a basement full of NY rats? Take my word for it...Poland is safe because Russia would rather kill itself than occupy Poland.

Worse for Russia means uglier to some others.


Wise. NN is fine. I think. Kind of neutral. See, this could save you from Siberia.

If he could he would, but it appears a full mobilization is a bridge too far. What happened the last time he tried that?

Why would he get bogged down so much if he could just issue an order and bulldoze everything?

The answer is the same reason he hasn't leveled more cities. Ukraine has air defenses and russia is not used to fighting enemies that can shield most attacks.

So my argument stands. At present he cannot take over all of Ukraine (doesn't matter why... he can't). He can do (and is doing) a lot of damage trying.

Whole thing could have been stopped in its tracks had Obama or Biden had the b@lls to stare him down but they didn't and now we're.... where we are.

It's not our war.

GFY...

For our freedom and yours.

I am free.

Your freedom is your damn problem.

...us too, and that's how it should stay. That's what this war is about.

Like I said...Your war...go fight it...

I am not scared because the US will never be invaded by anyone.

As a reminder, the only country Europe should be afraid of is Germany. See WW1 and WW2.

The USSR and Russia didn't invade anybody except Germany in 1945. So did the US and the UK.

North Nigeria never invaded anyone except all the countries they invaded

Agreed!

The British and French need to send troops in to mitigate the North Koreans.
Ukraine cannot be left to lose this war.It is too important for Europe.
Did you notice that America is not mentioned in this video?

List the countries both Russia and the US invaded since 1945.

Why? Russia (and the USSR before that) has been very protective of its minorities. I am sure that Russian Muslims are not on Russia's welfare and know their place.

It's the Western globalist morons that don't know how to control their borders and occasionally get 9/11 and Boston massacre.

Asked about the terms Russia would agree to, Lavrov pointed Carlson to Putin's June speech, in which the Russian president laid out Moscow's position; Ukraine would have to withdraw its forces from Russian territory, ensure the rights of Russian-speaking residents and become a neutral, nuclear-free state.

How many damn times did I say the same thing? I could be Putin's press secretary.

Memo to Russia-hating azholes:

Donbass and Crimea are Russian territories because the citizens of both said so. Period. Eat shlt.

You are mentally ill, Richard.

I'm not sure about that....frankly it makes me lotsa uncomfortable knowing Russia has such a huge muslim minority, which gets restless. (Who could forget the Chechen wars)

Actually one should see the Kremlins activities in Syria (and Afghanistan before that) with that in mind. It could very well be that there is a russian civil war with its muslims brewing, with Islamists trying anything to get their people uprising for more power. Who knows.....I guess in the near future any country with a sizable muslim minority within its borders will get problems which are rooted far away deep in the muslim world.

That is an actual essay written by some russian muslim:

en.ovdinfo.org/islamophobia

A week ago, the russians fired a machine gun at a German military helicopter in the Baltic Sea near the Danish island of Bornholm. Is this the beginning of the war?

The dogs on the north are hungry and have memory as elephants. Never forget that.


Who knows to whom belong that island. All Danmark have stolen from Slavs.


Rather, announce.

@mafketis
Why do you mention Obama and Biden having the balls? Why not mention Tusk, and every other EU leader? Why isnt the EU sending men? Why is it the responsibility of the US to keep helping non US people in a country that really has no value to the US other than a place to sell weapons?

Why wont Ukraine lower the conscription age when every expert says that manpower is their biggest problem now? Because Ukraine knows its over. We are watching the end of Z and preparing for the end of the war. Ukraine has lost 25% of its population either through being killed, or immigration. Its highly unlikely that most Ukraine people in the west will return to Ukraine.

Any thought of joining NATO is dead. There are at least five other countries other than the US that will vote against it. Trump will get his base in southern Poland and there will be a permanent station of 20K or more US military there are a deterant.