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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 16


pawian  221 | 25287
30 Oct 2024   #61
Crimea is part of the Russian Federation

Just like Western Poland was part of your fave Nazi Germany during WW2. Ha!!! Do you remember how it ended?
Ron2
30 Oct 2024   #62
Resources.. mostly natural gas and oil, that would take care of the EU's energy needs (until the energy transformation is done) for the next 100 years or more.

They play chess, you play checkers - check out the official stance on Crimea from the US State dept that confirms my assumptions:

"The United States does not and never will recognize Russia's purported annexation of the peninsula. Crimea is Ukraine."

state.gov/crimea-is-ukraine-2/

Same message on the US Embassy and Consulate in Poland official website: pl.usembassy.gov/crimea_ukraine/
OP Novichok  5 | 7885
30 Oct 2024   #63
"The United States does not and never will recognize Russia's purported annexation of the peninsula.

The US will the moment one of them wants to visit Crimea.

Then they will have to apply for a visa at the Russian Consulate near them. hahahahahahahahahaha...or fvck off ... hahahahaha...

Russia didn't "annex" anything. Russia said OK to the Crimea's application to join the Russian Federation.

I talked to Putin and he said he would review the situation after the US returns Manhattan to Shiting Bull and Poland gives up the occupied part of Germany.
pawian  221 | 25287
30 Oct 2024   #64
The US will the moment one of them wants to visit Crimea

Why should anyone??? Are Ams crazy??? Besides, don`t they own and take advantage of Florida???

Novi, your argument was weak. Improve!!!
cms neuf  1 | 1783
30 Oct 2024   #65
This is life in Crimea under the NNs

theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/30/russian-police-charge-woman-crimea-daughters-pro-ukraine-video

A woman will go to prison because of her daughter's cartoon

When is cowardly rapist murderer Putler intending to visit Crimea BRW ?
OP Novichok  5 | 7885
30 Oct 2024   #66
Quoting:

Russia has jailed, fined and arrested thousands of people for breaking strict censorship laws that ban criticism of the army since the Ukraine conflict began, a crackdown that rights groups say is reminiscent of the Soviet period.

Memo to "rights groups": Fvck you. When you, mother fvckers, start dying in that conflict, you will have the right to be against it. Privately - when you are safely taking a crap.

Undermining those who actually are doing the fighting and dying should carry the death penalty. Russian cops are way too nice...
pawian  221 | 25287
30 Oct 2024   #67
When you, mother fvckers, start dying in that conflict, you will have the right to be against it.

Similarly, you have no right to be against immigrants to the US coz you haven`t died at their hands yet. When you do, you can be against. Let`s wait a little.......... hahahaha buhahahaha Ale witz!!!
cms neuf  1 | 1783
30 Oct 2024   #68
The "fighters" (actually common drunks) are being undermined by their leaders and commanders who steal from them, sexually abuse them, send them into battle with poor weapons and no ammo, sell their medicine to local drug dealers and sell their fuel to buy handbags for their painted mistresses.
OP Novichok  5 | 7885
31 Oct 2024   #69
If I am the only one representing Russia here, I want an honorary Russian citizenship.

Hey, Bobko, WTF?
Crow  154 | 9301
31 Oct 2024   #70
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Rod Blagojevich: Kamala's Corruption, & the Real Cause of the Democrat Party's Spiral Into Insanity



Serbians coming to fix the world. Because world is broken..

Among many other things, Blagojevich speaks nicely of Poles and about their retreat in Chicago in front of ... other people. Blagojevich also pointing out that USA betrayal of old alliance with the Serbians announced fall of the States.
johnny reb  47 | 7728
31 Oct 2024   #71
Putin may be compelled to end the war as the country's economy continues to suffer severely since the conflict began.
Putin has been humiliated to say the least.
OP Novichok  5 | 7885
31 Oct 2024   #72
as the country's economy continues to suffer severely since the conflict began.

This war should have been a 3-month affair starting with precision attack on Kiev. One of them would hit Z.
cms neuf  1 | 1783
31 Oct 2024   #73
For a precision attack you need precision weapons and sober people to launch them.

North Nigeria has cold war kit, controlled by dipsomaniacs
Korvinus  2 | 568
31 Oct 2024   #74

My advice about the plan for each side:

Ukraine : Make the war so costly that RU can't afford anymore and is forced to leave UA alone or collapse.
Russia : Throw meat till they fully occupy Dongabe and Luganda and throw a ultimatum "sign the suicidal deal that we tried to force upon you In Istanbul or we will invade and occupy more territories"

Needless to say, the Istanbul therms are much, much worse than what Germany got after WW1, so even if RU archives it, is more likely that UA will rush to make a quick nuke than sign it.
mafketis  38 | 10989
31 Oct 2024   #75
My advice about the plan for each side:

After revelations that only 10% of the aid agreed upon earlier this year has actually reached Ukraine and that lots of weaponry that could be given to Ukraine is being destroyed instead....

The US no longer wants Ukrainian victory and the US will not honor any security agreements made.

Poland needs to make other security arrangements because the US is not a reliable ally. As an American it hurts to say that... but it's the truth.
OP Novichok  5 | 7885
31 Oct 2024   #76
The US no longer wants Ukrainian victory and the US will not honor any security agreements made.

The US doesn't want to dump money it doesn't have into that bottomless pit while aware that Z-P=0 and that Russia will win - just as they did in April 1945.

This is Vietnam all over again...There, we were stupid to dump billions and sent thousands of our best to death for shlt. Oops...sorry...I mean for "freedom and democracy"...

To my relief, even the MICC wouldn't dream about sending Aamericans into that corrupt shlthole aka Ukraine...

So it comes down to only one question: Where the fvck is the exit ramp? How many miles down the road...


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OP Novichok  5 | 7885
31 Oct 2024   #77
As an American it hurts to say that...

You are not an American. A piece of paper is not enough. If you were, you would be urging the US to get the fvck out of another Euro war we have no dog in.

As an enemy of the US, you want the opposite - more money spent and more men killed.

Your posts might as well be written by the most hateful of America's enemies...

I said it before and I will say it again...The US and Russia should be united against the common enemy - the dark scum invading America and Europe.

We should be friends just as we were in 1945.


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Miloslaw  21 | 5017
31 Oct 2024   #78
@Novichok.You totally disgust me as a Pole that supports Russia.

Where the fvck is the exit ramp?

There isn't one, until Russia realises this game is over and backs down.....
Miloslaw  21 | 5017
31 Oct 2024   #79
Putin's invasion of Ukraine was the biggest mistake he ever made.
This stupid and pointless invasion will finish him.
Russians and their ar$e lickers need to pay attention..... it's all over for Putin and for Russia......


amiga500  5 | 1503
1 Nov 2024   #80
The US doesn't want to dump money it doesn't have into that bottomless pit while aware that Z-P=0 and that Russia will win - just as they did in April 1945.

Funny how novi turned out to be right from the start..

Of course that does not take away from the fact that he's a bitter curmudgeon that needs to focus on family in his late years instead of endlessly posting about trannies and blacks and the gulf war.

Poland needs to make other security arrangements because the US is not a reliable ally.

You mean something like the Treaty of Riga? haha
OP Novichok  5 | 7885
1 Nov 2024   #81
he's a bitter curmudgeon

Bitter are the men with regrets. I have none.
If I could direct that movie one more time, it would be a copy of the original.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 940
1 Nov 2024   #82
As little Kim's men prepare to enter the front lines as soon as this weekend, people still want to point fingers at the US. The US is not responsible for Ukraine. It is really that simple, and the American people are tired of paying for wars.

Poland will be fine, and arguably in better shape if Trump wins next week. A renewed effort for Fort Trump would probably see record numbers of American Military stationed in Poland on a permanent basis. A win for Harris will have the opposite effect and will likely escalate the war. Does anyone believe Vlad will be intimidated or afraid in any way of Harris?
cms neuf  1 | 1783
1 Nov 2024   #83
You mean because she's a woman ?
cms neuf  1 | 1783
1 Nov 2024   #84
The North Koreans have had their first experience of hot war and it did not go well. Several videos on line of captured prisoners. Apparently they were told they would be building fortifications.

Plenty more to come unfortunately
Mr Grunwald  33 | 2133
1 Nov 2024   #85
The US is not responsible for Ukraine.

Then both U.S.A and Russia should stop pretending and stop signing security agreements regarding Ukraine? No? That way both countries can avoid responsibilities if THAT is the goal

Then China and E.U can step up and rule world in your stead while you two only focus internal conflicts, no?
PolAmKrakow  2 | 940
1 Nov 2024   #86
@cms neuf
No I mean because she is dumber than a fvcking rock. I voted for Hilary btw. Take your sexism bvllshit argument someplace else.

@Mr Grunwald
I agree the US should never have any agreement with anyone outside of NATO. That includes Israel, Kuwait and others. The NATO agreement is also useless for the US as Russia is not a threat.
Mr Grunwald  33 | 2133
1 Nov 2024   #87
That includes Israel, Kuwait and others.

So U.S.A should also stop being a elected country (or maybe you don't view it as being elected, just elites abusing the system? Oligarchy in practice)

Therefore should push for or support democracies or semi democracies outside NATO
cms neuf  1 | 1783
1 Nov 2024   #88
Fair enough PolAm apologies for calling you sexist

Why do you think Putin won't be scared of her (given that he is scared or most things - germs, assassins, visiting his troops, Wagner rebellion, visiting South Africa) ?
PolAmKrakow  2 | 940
1 Nov 2024   #89
@Mr Grunwald
I view the US after 50 years living there as a corrupt elitist run disaster. I think the government at the national level is far too big and out of control. Remember, this is a country founded on the principal of hating taxes, and the current form of the US government is IMO not what the founding fathers intended.

@cms neuf
Harris cannot articulate a full sentence with details. Everything is a story of some sort and there is no substance. She has been asked repeatedly what she would do differently than Biden and there are no details given simply saying "I am not Joe Biden" is not an answer. She has the most extreme far left views of any senator in history, so far left Bernie Sanders looks like a republican compared to her. The continuing of democratic tax and spend policies that are not working now, only to increase taxation and spending makes no economic sense. When the top 1% of wealthy people pay 42% of US taxes, her argument to tax the wealthy makes no sense when the wealthy alreay pay the most. Voting for her because she is a woman, or because she is black or indian or reptilian is simply the weakest argument there is to vote for anyone.

The idea that Putin would be afraid of a person who has zero leadership experience, cannot even complete tasks that were assigned to her by Biden, and does not understand Europe is simply laughable. Being a germophobe is common, assasins, and other items for a guy who has killed his own people are pretty justified fears. But what did Vlad do when Trump was president? Nothing. The last 18 months of Trumps presidency, no US military deaths in the middle east because he made a deal for withdrawl that worked. Trump may be unpresidential in what he says, but his unpredictability scares the $hit out of Vlad, Little Kim and Xi. And that is what the US and the world needs.
mafketis  38 | 10989
1 Nov 2024   #90
he US is not responsible for Ukraine. It is really that simple, and the American people are tired of paying for wars.

The US aggressively disarmed Ukraine for decades (starting in 1991 and Biden was part of that) so that when russia invaded in 2014 it was all but completely unarmed.

Either the US was taking on the burden of Ukrainian defense
or
It was preparing Ukraine for russian invasion...

There are no other possibilities (if so, then what?) and both should be cause for deep shame for the US government.

he American people are tired of paying for wars.

Want to stop future aid? Fine! But at least actually deliver the aid that was promised and remove crippling restrictions placed on Ukraine by russian poodles like Jake Sullivan....


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