Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 16

Not when the fat cats control the WH and Congress.

Nobody sane here blames you, Euros...I would take advantage of a dumb cop who is willing to protect my ass for free.

Russia has fired its new 'Oreshnik' hypersonic ballistic missile - Putin
The strike was launched in response to Kiev's use of Western-made long-range missiles, the president has said
As part of what the president called a "combat test," the hypersonic missile, dubbed 'Oreshnik' ('Hazel'), successfully struck a military industrial facility in the Ukrainian city of Dnepropetrovsk (known as Dnipro in Ukraine), Putin added.

With this limp-wristed approach, it will take a lot longer than it should.

How about Point Zero in Kiev while they are in session? Z would hit Duma if he could...

Yes, because they will steal your toilet and eat your families' pets.

When Starmer in the UK was interviewed yesterday and directly asked about the potential for nuclear war with Russia, he would not answer the question in a way that would make anyone in Europe comfortable. Starmer, Biden and those aligned with these two retards have no problem putting all of us who live here in harms way for their own political aspirations. Is Ukraine worth even just one nuke being used? The answer is no. Ukraine couldnt shoot down that ICBM the other day and the rest of Europe would be absolutely hopeless if Vlad launched some on the EU. This madness needs to be ended. Lets hope Vlad can keep calm for another 59 days.

We are already in harms way - we live next door to murderers and war criminals who repeatedly invade their peaceful neighbors.

Do you think its ok for Putler to use Junk Chinese, Mad Islamist Iranian and Starving North Koreans weapons to attack Ukraine ?

@cms neuf
I think its ok for the US and UK to STFU. I think its ok for Ukraine to take all the aid that it has left at its disposal and be given the option to keep it and fight on, or keep it, negotiate and use it for peace keeping. Then I think the the US should completely abandon any more financial aid to Ukraine that is not tied to Ukraine paying back every dollar. I think the EU and all the war mongers need to STFU or put up their own military if they want the war to continue. Lets see how quickly support for this war evaporates when young Polish, French and German boys come home in body bags. Living next door to murderers and war criminals is not so difficult if you are armed to the teeth to prevent them from getting stupid. The EU had the last 30 years to do that, and only now are they starting to act.

So obviously putin's not gonna use nukes now. Especially since he's desperately hoping that Trump will save him. He's not going to do anything that would force Trump to take the gloves off.

Calm down, your hysteria is clouding your judgement.

Why would the free countries of the world STFU ?

Again do you think it's ok for NN to use foreign missiles in Ukraine ? 🇺🇦

@mafketis
You have absolutely zero insight into how Vlads strategy is working. Trump is never going to take the gloves off and Putin knows it. Trump will let Ukraine fold like a cheap suit if Ukraine does not listen. Its Biden and Starmer that want to escalate things, and Putin just used a missile that cant be stopped by the west, and oh by the way that missile is designed for nuclear warheads. So dont tell me to calm down, maybe you need to wake TFU.

@cms neuf
There is no such place as NN. I think its Ukraines problem to deal with, and their refusal to compromise is a stupid posture to take. I think they are being lead by the MIC of the west, and Z is a puppet. And yes, the rest of the free world shoud STFU and worry about their own problems.

What is the source of your insight?


So he's a cowardly wimp.....


calm down..... the more russia grumbles about nukes the less likely they are to use them.

WWIII has already began because of gormless sackless westerners who wanted to pretend russia wasn't an existential threat....

A new Axis Powers are cooperating on two fronts on two continents and there's liable to be a third soon....

It could have been stopped in 2022 but that didn't happen so it's going to play out and probably nukes will be involved at one stage somewhere somehow. Giving in to putin, your strategy, will just make the war harder to stop.

Why don't you answer the simple question ?

Is it Ok for the invaders to use Chinese, Iranian and NK missiles to attack Ukraine ?

Should NK concentrate on their own problems (starvation) ?

Should Iran concentrate on their own problems (women showing their ankles) ?

Of course they will, they need something to keep their food in! And if you have a top-loading washing machine, they'll take that too, to use as a toilet.


Not exactly news that Cadet Bone Spurs Trump is a coward and a wimp, is it.


It could have been stopped in 2014 when the little green men invaded Ukraine. Should have been stopped then too.

Would have required decisive action by Obama and Merkel (among others) and neither wanted to. Obama simply had/has Europe in his dvpa (as they say) and Merkel wanted that cheap russian gas too much to stand up to the malevolent little dwarf.

@mafketis
Nothing cowardly about staying out of a fight that is not yours. Thats intelligence in action. My insight? One of business operations is strategy development. You thinking Russia wont use nukes is simply not founded on anything other than hope. Putin is no threat to the US. A threat to the EU? Yes, but the EU sucked him off for decades thinking its globalist strategy would work, and now they are playing catch up to the danger. Only people at fault for that is the EU. Sackless westerners? I dont know one keyboard tough guy from PF that had the balls to go fight. So who is sackless?

@cms neuf
I dont GAF who uses what weapons in any war or where they are from. Just keep Poland and the US out of any war, prepare for defense if needed. You know, mind your own fvcking business and let your neighbor do the same. If you want to fight together then fight, but go all in and send men along with arms, otherwise its politcal stunting. North Korea, Iran, Iraq can all take care of theselves. None of our fvcking business. All of the middle east can kill each other off for all I care, again none of our business.

I have mentioned it before here, Ukraine has more natural resources and minerals and elements to more than pay back the billions that have been given to them by the U.S. and other countries.
Will they ? Hell no.
The American tax payers bite the bullet again.

No, those ICM's can carry several nuclear warheads that can be directed to different targets.
biden, obama, Pelosi, Cheney and the rest of the enemy want to leave Trump with a huge mess to blame onto him so they can say, "we told you so."
All biden did by giving Ukraine those long range missiles was pour gas on the fire.
You just watch all the chaos the Democrats (the enemy) cause in the next two months before they get kicked out of the White House.
I applaud Putin with his patience knowing Trump is going to cut off Ukraine from Billions in weapons including long range missiles.

Judging by the quiet panic that prevailed after the arrival of "Oreshnik" on Yuzhmash, these warheads reached the underground premises built in Soviet times with the expectation of a nuclear strike, where apparently there were warehouses and workshops for the AFU.... But most of all I liked the video, where air defense missiles are detonated after flying to the trail of the warhead, which has long since passed this place. ;)

After yesterday's strike on Dnipropetrovsk with an intercontinental ballistic missile, the Western press is pumping out thousands of articles.

Some of my favorite ones come from toxic British tabloids, which already hated Starmer. Admittedly, France and Britain do really look like clueless passengers on this ride to Armageddon, and I would be pretty pissed off as well if I were a British voter.

Biden is just salty that he lost the elections to Trump, so he's trying to "Trump proof" the country's Ukraine policy. That's the obvious reason why he authorized the use of ATACMS in Russia... knowing full well it will make Trump's job of mediating that much harder. It's also for the same reason, that America finally consented to an arrest warrant to be issued against Netanyahu by the ICC. That is, to ensure it's that much harder for Trump to hand Netanyahu a win in Gaza.

In other words, Biden is playing his own game, for his own reasons. Starmer and Macron, meanwhile, look like complete idiots with their Storm Shadow and SCALP authorizations. Yesterday Putin said that "Russia was entitled to strike the military facilities of countries that allow their weapons to be used against our facilities." Does anyone in their right mind think that Russia will strike some Lockheed Martin plant in America? I don't think so. I think it's much more likely that it will be British and French plants that will be hit, and then it will be Americans telling the British and the French to not dare striking back.

Macron and Starmer are literally walking their two countries into a war, eyes wide open. Scholz looks like a goddamn genius in comparison, with his caution on the Taurus.

Watching Starmer's stuttering response to a Sky News journalist regarding whether or not he gave any thought to several distressing contingencies was infuriating.

Like some Maf or CMS Neuf he offered only inane "Russia started it all, all the deaths are on Russia" platitudes.

Maf and Neuf are morally bankrupt persons, that don't mind Ukraine being erased, so long as they can squarely place the blame on Russia's shoulders. That is, they don't care whether Ukraine exists as an entity tomorrow, but rather they care more that Russia be appropriately punished. Fine. But this guy is the Prime Minister of the UK! Even if he doesn't care a wit about Ukraine's population, shouldn't he be concerned about his own?

These politicians act as if they are from Mercury or Mars.

Only as if they were located in Ukraine, but they are not.

Ehhh, no. When the ballistic missile was used yesterday, Putin issued a seven minute statement. It's crystal clear from the statement that the next time a Storm Shadow or SCALP missile are used, there will be strikes on Great Britain and on France.

Source: nytimes.com/2024/11/22/world/europe/ukraine-russia-us-trump-putin.html

The West kept testing Russia's red lines, and it kept looking like we were bluffing - until finally yesterday Putin showed that the time for jokes is coming to an end.

I think in addition to France and Britain, a strike on Rzeszow is in the books - IF THE LONG RANGE STRIKES INTO RUSSIA CONTINUE.

If their own electorate does not force them to change course, I am sure America will be able to impress upon France and Britain to halt further assistance to Ukraine in long range strikes inside Russia.

P.S. - If there are other people like Alien that think that nothing has changed since yesterday, I strongly suggest opening Google and reading the news.

P.P.S. - I'm sure that France and the UK will do exactly ZERO in response, after a military-industrial site is hit.

So you think the nuclear powers will allow themselves to be kicked in the ass without any consequences.

In short - yes.

The alternative is death for all.

We would not use nuclear weapons, but weapons like yesterday, that are capable of delivering nuclear warheads but are instead equipped with 6 conventional re-entry vehicles, each having 6 separate conventional warheads. Arriving from space, at a speed of 10 KM/S, despite being non-nuclear, they are sufficient to disable a large industrial facility. Neither Britain nor France has any way to prevent such an attack.

It would be madness, for them to respond with a nuclear strike to one which was conventional.

Putin even said we will warn people that we are about to do it, because there is nothing they can do to stop it anyway. This will help prevent innocent French and British dying.

Hopefully this will wake them up to a more realistic perspective.

P.S. - Israel is a nuclear state since the 1960s, and Iran launched a barrage of several hundred missiles at them. Iran did not get nuked. Interesting, no?

Shut up about your dumb missiles

Want to fire them at France ? They won't reach that far

Man who lauds murderers and rapists, who supports Iranian and Korean extremism then calls others morally bankrupt

You need medication man.

how is that wrong? russia did start it


it is so pathetic.... the west is bending over backward to try to prevent russian collapse while russians imagine they're pushing the west around...


Of course mr. pozner, anything you say, mr. pozner....

Yes. Sorry I forgot - these fake ass nukes are coming "from space"

Quite literally from space, lol. Perhaps you could spend a minute or two reading up on the workings of ICBMs. The missiles enter outer space, and then go back down onto their target at hypersonic speeds. This is why many people initially doubted that Russia could have hit the site in Dnepropetrovsk from a distance of only 800 KMs. The fact that this has been confirmed, means the missile was fired on a practically vertical trajectory.


Who cares that it's on Russia, when every passing day means that Ukraine is less and less likely to ever experience any kind of level of prosperity in the next century or two? Why does that never enter your calculus? Is victory over Russia really worth any price?

Interesting take on the speech by putain (looking more and more like Verka Serduchka out of costume).

x.com/DrRadchenko/status/1859861024318669184

And the ace comment in response: "putin incurably adores the idea of doing something ambiguous that is interpreted by his opponents in the most hardcore, terrifying way possible, so as to deliver him a strategic win without a serious strategic commitment. He believes, in short, in magical solutions"

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!