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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 16


Velund  1 | 507
15 Nov 2024   #451
After 16 years of russian rule residents have officially had enough and started mass protests

Probably this is from same source, who brainwashed Milo about "Russia is losing".

Micro-Maidans in Abkhazia is regular and used as method of taking control by two pro-russian (and anti-georgian) and quite nationalistic (in areas that related to affairs inside Abkhazia) groups that have very different economic interests. This time, group that controls most of touristic industry (the one that is the only really working business area in republic) trying to avoid signing of agreement that simplify operation of Abkhazian businesses in Russia and vice versa. They fear that if more resourceful hotel operators and other tourism-related businesses come from Russia and start to build new hotels and campings, they will look pale with their soviet-era infrastructure.
mafketis  38 | 11109
15 Nov 2024   #452
All you can do is diminish and bully!

Sounds like russia.... how does it feel to have the scum of the earth as allies?

China - the same party that engineered the worst famine in history and the worst post WWII human rights abuses is still in power

Norkeria - the party that starved 10 or so percent of the population to death in the 1990s.... still in power

Iran - they beat young women to death if they show their hair in public....

I guess like likes like....
OP Novichok  5 | 8543
15 Nov 2024   #453
Probably this is from same source, who brainwashed Milo about "Russia is losing".

These two lie that "Russia is losing" to feel good for a couple of minutes until they go to YouTube when nobody is around.

This bs how Russia is losing works like this...

Russia haters set Russia's goals...Like: Russia wants Lisbon and everything in between. Then they gloat: Russia has failed to take Lisbon, ergo, Russia is losing!

My comments that it takes too long are just a joke...Russia has a very simple plan ... Depopulate and destroy as much as possible to make Ukraine a very unattractive place to come back to for the U refugees and for the EU to dump money into when the shooting stops.

Totally brilliant...No, I didn't talk to my hero, Mr. Putin...Just a wild guess...

Iran - they beat young women to death if they show their hair in public....

Since 1973, Ukraine's chief ally terminated 60 million lives and had to import 40 million scumbags as replacements.
Miloslaw  21 | 5192
15 Nov 2024   #454
Velund, Russia is losing, you cannot possibly deny that!

Russia wants Lisbon and everything in between. Then they gloat: Russia has failed to take Lisbon, ergo, Russia is losing!

Are you insane?

This is the reality for you pathetic Russohiles......


Velund  1 | 507
16 Nov 2024   #455
you know how it goes: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend!"

Then "the fate of enemy of my enemy is my fate..." ;)
Crow  154 | 9609
16 Nov 2024   #456
Hungarian and Serbian army closer > White wine for a new alliance in Europe, and we are ready for a moment when sh*t hit the fan >

sh

Vučić completed his visit to Budapest: Important agreements signed; New opportunity to strengthen partnership
> b92.net/english/politics/77181/vucic-in-budapest/vest

Vučić from Budapest: The closeness of our armies must be pronounced, we're concerned about world circumstances
>b92.net/english/politics/77053/vucic-spoke-from-budapest/vest
As he said, they discussed the situation in Ukraine, Europe, but also the situation in the United States of America.

OP Novichok  5 | 8543
16 Nov 2024   #457
UK could send troops to Ukraine - ex-PM
The West will face "an even bigger threat" if "Ukraine goes down," Boris Johnson has claimed

Boris is out of power and can say anything. But the people in power in UK will have their pants yellow while talking of sending UK troops to Ukraine for fighting. UK has an active army even smaller than that of Philippines. The whole of UK army will be less than one months of fodder for Russia.


Blow Job knows that Brits can't do shlt and counts on the US to bail Brits out - again...

Memo to Russia: Kill these warmongers first. Take no prisoners since they have no Russian POWs.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 1040
16 Nov 2024   #458
Ukraine will have a reduced size, they will be fast tracked into the EU and denied NATO. Z will get all the money for rebuilding through the American banks and companies who are just waiting to enter the market. Russia will be allowed to sell oil again in the common market to fund raparations and new growth in Ukraine. In order to make this happen, Trump says the US will stay in NATO, Fort Trump will be built in Poland, and Sikorski will become Trumps best friend in Poland.

Frankly, I cannot wait until the war is over and I can go back to Ukraine to see friends and work, go back to Russia for work as well. The idea wars, and existential threats some would like to continue to have men die for simply dont make sense. In just over two months we should have a pretty good idea of what the end of the war is going to look like.
cms neuf  1 | 1920
16 Nov 2024   #459
I think a more likely scenario is that Putler's army will sit in the mud, with awful hangovers, 7km from Pokrovsk, until they run out of food.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 1040
16 Nov 2024   #460
Another brilliant contribution to the discussion.

Now anyone that actually gives a fvck about Ukraine will read this

responsiblestatecraft.org/ukraine-2669870654/
cms neuf  1 | 1920
16 Nov 2024   #461
And yet I'm normally right when I say the drunks are stuck outside Pokrovsk

I see the starving, supposedly crack troops from Korea are making a difference though

Your idea, that Putler will get all his wishes, is not plausible

Who is going to read your crappy links ?
Feniks  1 | 646
16 Nov 2024   #462
some would like to continue to have men die for

Nobody wants this but I really don't understand why you think that by effectively rewarding Putin by ceding yet more land to Russia is going to be the answer.

They've invaded a peaceful neighbour twice now. There is nothing to stop them doing the exact same thing further down the line if on both previous occasions invasion has resulted in Russia gaining territory. That's a win-win for Russia. What you're in favour of is simply delaying the inevitable and bowing down to a dictator.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 1040
16 Nov 2024   #463
@cms neuf
And Ukraine's thinking it is going to get all of its land back is not only not plausible, but borderline retarded. People who read crappy links get educated on whats really happening and not the emotional garbage posted here.
jon357  73 | 23224
16 Nov 2024   #464
understand why you think that by effectively rewarding

Whereas Germany is like warm and contains a lot of r*SSia supporters and Hungary has a fascist president who is expected to lose at the next election, the rest of Europe is consistent that r*SSia must not be allowed to prevail in their illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

Your idea, that Putler will get all his wishes, is not plausible

It's not just implausible, it's out of the question.
johnny reb  48 | 8003
16 Nov 2024   #465
Trump says the US will stay in NATO, Fort Trump will be built in Poland, and Sikorski will become Trumps best friend in Poland.

Trump no doubt respects Poland.
NATO's Secretary General has a message for Trump:
Europe knows it must spend more on arms.
He made a point of highlighting Poland's strong defense spending during a recent trip to Warsaw.
Trump once threatened to pull out of NATO if allies didn't boost spending and let Putin do what he wanted to them.
NATO Secretary General Rutte has a "clear message" for the US:
Europe knows it must spend more on defense.
Rutte met with Polish President Duda and Polish Prime Minister Tusk in Warsaw earlier this week, taking the opportunity to praise Poland's defense spending.
Poland is set to lead NATO in defense spending as a percentage of GDP for the second year in a row, with Warsaw investing more than 4% of its economic output on defense in 2024.
I wonder if Nuclear warheads will eventually be deployed to Fort Trump in Poland.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11927
16 Nov 2024   #466
Whereas Germany is like warm

.....I never heard that expression before! At least not about Germany! :)
pawian  221 | 26103
16 Nov 2024   #467
What you're in favour of is simply delaying the inevitable and bowing down to a dictator.

Holy words.
Bobko  28 | 2364
16 Nov 2024   #468
What you're in favour of is simply delaying the inevitable and bowing down to a dictator.

I don't get these comparisons with Munich, references to appeasement, etc....

This time around the West did not simply sit on its hands, and sign away an ally's territory.

The entire West rallied to Ukraine's aid, and many other peoples further afield joined in as well. More weapons were sent than had gone through Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq combined.

Funds were sent, that equaled or surpassed the entire GDP of many European states.

You still lost, but you don't have to feel bad. Parallels to 1939 are not accurate. You made this adventure as expensive as possible for Russia, so your conscience should be clear.
pawian  221 | 26103
16 Nov 2024   #469
I don't get these comparisons with Munich,

Of course. Are you an imperial Russian for nought???? :):):)
OP Novichok  5 | 8543
16 Nov 2024   #470
the emotional garbage posted here.

I wish therefore it is?

Emotions are funny things. They are often very uplifting ... until something of value has to be placed at risk.

Then it's the other guy's solemn duty to fight Ruskies.

Right maf and cms?
pawian  221 | 26103
16 Nov 2024   #471
Emotions are funny things

Exactly. Especially the ones which make you ban posters. :):):)

Right maf and cms?

Yes, they are right!
OP Novichok  5 | 8543
16 Nov 2024   #472
They've invaded a peaceful neighbour twice now.

Russian army is in Donbass and therefore in Russia. It's the UA that is the aggressor.

When the last one of them leaves or gets killed, the war is over. Unless Ukraine again starts talking shlt about joining NATO...

To prevent this, somebody should translate "nyet" into Ukrainian.
pawian  221 | 26103
16 Nov 2024   #473
Donbass and therefore in Russia.

No, darling, stop this bolshevik manipulation. Donbass is still in Ukraine. Only occupied by imperial Russians.
Bobko  28 | 2364
16 Nov 2024   #474
Objectively the West reacted much more forcefully than when they sold Czechoslovakia down the river.
pawian  221 | 26103
16 Nov 2024   #475
Objectively the West reacted much more forcefully

That`s what we call teaching sb a lesson. :):)
Alien  25 | 6028
16 Nov 2024   #476
they sold Czechoslovakia down the river

Hitler did not have nuclear weapons at that time, Russia does.
Bobko  28 | 2364
16 Nov 2024   #477
@Alien

So that makes you look like even bigger cowards in front of Hitler.

I fail to see your point.
OP Novichok  5 | 8543
16 Nov 2024   #478
I fail to see your point.

You will not last with these morons as your debaters...
cms neuf  1 | 1920
16 Nov 2024   #479
The comparison between Munich and today's appeasers is justified.

The common factor is that Hitler and Putler are both people who would obviously break their promise and already have a history of doing so.

A difference is that the Wehrmacht were mainly sober, well organized and knew which way to hold their rifles.
Alien  25 | 6028
16 Nov 2024   #480
I fail to see your point

Well, let me explain. In the case of putin, the West cannot afford a second Munich. He is too dangerous for that. Much more dangerous than Hitler was.

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