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Abortion still under control in Poland - part 2


Lenka  6 | 3539
2 Aug 2025   #331
There is no sperm flush out.
Ergo, a women can still get pregnant
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
2 Aug 2025   #332
There is no sperm flush out!!!

OK, Wrong term. EC it is...

Here is the sequence:

1. Rape
2. 911
3. Hospital

... all in less than one hour. No pregnancy to abort and no need for "abortion rights".
Lenka  6 | 3539
2 Aug 2025   #333
EC it is..

What is EC. Do you mean emergency contraception aka morning after pill?

As far as I'm aware there is no procedure that can efficiently remove sperm once it enters vagina.
Tlum  12 | 417
2 Aug 2025   #334
Ergo, a women can still get pregnant

My point #5 covers that. If there's no "sperm flush out" they can try a day after pill or whatever they wish.
Lenka  6 | 3539
2 Aug 2025   #335
I just wanted to straighten that misconception. And quite scary really the bs being spread.

Not to mention the emergency contraception is in the bad book of any anti abortion people
Tlum  12 | 417
2 Aug 2025   #336
I'm glad you agree with the remaining 95% of my post.
johnny reb  50 | 8401
2 Aug 2025   #337
. And quite scary really the bs being spread.

Now that is a fact !
There is no sperm flush out!!!

They do use a spermicide flush (dooch) that kills the baby paste but you better hope the the hell that the sperm that got past the goalie hasn't reached the egg yet.
And since a normal sperm count ranges from 15 million to over 200 million sperm per milliliter of semen, what could possibly go wrong. :-/
... all in less than one hour. No pregnancy to abort

Oh Novi, what U-tube did you take that from ?
If a guy my size is balls deep into it pressing against her cervix with his one eyed snake in launch mode it ain't gonna take no hour to reach the cervix which at that point is too late to stop fertilization.
At least that is what the Nuns taught us in third grade anyways.
Lenka  6 | 3539
2 Aug 2025   #338
They do use a spermicide

Spermicide are used before sex as a contraceptive.
Can you please provide me with any information about the after sex flush out version?
johnny reb  50 | 8401
2 Aug 2025   #339
Spermicide are used before sex as a contraceptive.

Yes, that is what I meant and admittedly worded it wrong.
I am not a pro on this subject as I always just pulled and prayed.

Quoting:
The question many individuals have is: "Can I use spermicide after intercourse?" The short answer is no; using spermicide after intercourse does not provide any benefit for preventing pregnancy. Once ejaculation occurs and sperm are deposited in the vagina, they can swim rapidly toward the egg within minutes. (Hear that Novi ?)
Applying spermicide afterward cannot reverse this action.

Moreover, using spermicide post-intercourse can lead to irritation or discomfort without providing any contraceptive benefits. It's essential to understand that once sexual activity has taken place, the opportunity for prevention through spermicide has passed.
The Lord only knows how glad I am that I am to old to fret about such things anymore.
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
2 Aug 2025   #340
at that point is too late to stop fertilization.

EC is effective for 7 days.

they can swim rapidly toward the egg within minutes. (Hear that Novi ?)

I don't know how EC works but works.

Fertilization - yes, Pregnancy + baby - no. Not yet...
mafketis  43 | 11768
2 Aug 2025   #341
the emergency contraception is in the bad book of any anti abortion people

yes, any birth control that takes place after conception is seen as murder by many/most anti-abortion people, the term they use is 'abortifacient'....

see here:

studentsforlife.org/learn/contraception/

So presumably those who want rapists' babies to be born are equally opposed to IUDs, birth control pills*, 'morning after' pills and late term abortion.... which I personally think is kind of crazy....
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
2 Aug 2025   #342
which I personally think is kind of crazy....

It's as crazy as calling Trump or Putin Hitler...It perverts the meaning of these words into nothing.

The cleanest case of legalized murder is abortion past heart beat. Anything before that is just disgusting and immoral.
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
2 Aug 2025   #343
Quoting:

12-latka z bólem brzucha trafiła do szpitala. Okazało się, że jest w ciąży. Ojcem ma być 16-letni brat.

A 12-year-old girl was taken to the hospital with abdominal pain. It turned out she was pregnant. The father was believed to be her 16-year-old brother.


Should she get an abortion when they found out she was pregnant?
Przelotnyptak1  - | 862
2 Aug 2025   #344
Do you see Johnny? This is how they prefer to engage in discussions. We will talk about the gruesome and murderous procedure of late-term abortion, and they will respond with claims about opposition to the morning-after pill from so-called heartless conservatives, even though you would need a powerful telescope to find such conservatives in reality.

On the other hand, they never initiate a conversation about the real issue: a Virginia politician, who happens to be a medical doctor, was asked by a reporter what should be done with a survivor of an abortion who is alive outside the birth canal. The progressive politician offered his solution for dealing with this inconvenient situation: first, he said, you make the victim warm and comfortable, then you kill it, conveniently ignoring the Hippocratic Oath. What a swine.

These are the rational people you engage with in discussions.
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
3 Aug 2025   #345
What's the difference between killing a child in the school or in the womb?


Lyzko  45 | 10122
7 Aug 2025   #346
Killing a child in school takes the life of an innocent, living
being who is aware someone is trying to take their life!

A fetus essentially is not a formed being, rather like pondering
whether or not an algae plant can scream if picked up in a bucket
and washed away.

You weren't present at the beginning of Creation and neither was
anyone here.
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
7 Aug 2025   #347
A fetus essentially is not a formed being,

Pro-abortion leftists always tell us what "a fetus" is not, but not what it is.

Here is the definition:

Fetus - an alive human being inside a pregnant woman

Your turn...
Torq  20 | 1944
8 Aug 2025   #348
Killing a child in school takes the life of an innocent, living being

Just like killing the same innocent child in its mother's womb.

who is aware someone is trying to take their life!

Oh, so being aware is the deciding factor. Interesting.

So, what if the murderer approaches the child at school quietly and shoots it in the back of the head, so that at no moment is the child aware that "someone is trying to take their life"?

You people (pro-abortionists) are seriously f*cked up in the head.
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
8 Aug 2025   #349
Oh, so being aware is the deciding factor. Interesting.

The Jew just told you that it's OK to shoot him when he is asleep.
Lyzko  45 | 10122
8 Aug 2025   #350
No, I merely argue that Torq, you, and so many others, think robotically,
not logically or scientifically. You follow blindly, like lemmings. It's the same for any unthinking ideology,
be it Orthodox Judaism (including the various extreme sects, Satmar,
for example) or Roman Catholicism!!
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
8 Aug 2025   #351
Abortion has nothing to do with any religion. It has to do with the tribe's sustainability.

A country with a 1.4 rep rate should not allow any except when the woman's physical life is in danger. Emergency contraception is not abortion enough to have a fist fight about.
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
8 Aug 2025   #352
If the US made abortions free for blacks, would it be discrimination against blacks or whites?

The same question for Ukrainians in Poland...
Torq  20 | 1944
8 Aug 2025   #353
not logically or scientifically

Logically and scientifically like justifying murder by the fact that the victim wasn't "aware someone was trying to take their life"?

Face it, Lyzko - you're a retard.
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
8 Aug 2025   #354
Torq, you, and so many others, think robotically, not logically or scientifically.

OK, propose your logical abortion rules.

How about you, Feniks? You do have an opinion on what abortion laws should be where you live, right?

Face it, Lyzko - you're a retard.

You just insulted real retards.
Lyzko  45 | 10122
8 Aug 2025   #355
Ck. out Stanley Kramer's "Inherit The Wind" (1961),
the year Tracy won an Oscar for his role of Henry Drummond (Clarence Darrow),
having been beaten out one year earlier by Maximillian Schell in "Judgement at Nueremberg".

The former's all about the right to teach evolution in the state of Tennessee.
Those boneheads applied the same (il)logic about Darwin as you guys do
concerning a woman's right to choose.
mafketis  43 | 11768
8 Aug 2025   #356
the year Tracy won an Oscar for his role of Henry Drummond (Clarence Darrow),

Nope.
Tracy's oscars were back in the 1930s.

He was nominated in 1960 (inherit the wind) but lost best actor to Burt Lancaster - elmer gantry
He and Schell were both nominated in 1961 for JaN but Schell won.
Lyzko  45 | 10122
9 Aug 2025   #357
Thanks for the correction, maf!
Tracy deserved the Oscar for "Inherit the Wind", HANDS DOWN!!
Admittedly, Schell gave the best performance in "Judgement",
(in my opinion, way superior to Lancaster's uncharactaristically
stilted and over the top exaggerated take on the Janning part),
....but Spence had all the best lines:-)
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
9 Aug 2025   #358
OK, propose your logical abortion rules.

Hey, Lyzko, are you working on your abortion rules or did you decide to ignore my polite request?
Lyzko  45 | 10122
10 Aug 2025   #359
Abortion "rules" as it were apply naturally ONLY in cases of rape or incest.
Here, we must show leniency!!
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
10 Aug 2025   #360
Abortion "rules" as it were apply naturally ONLY in cases of rape or incest.

How would you know that it was "rape"? Because she said so after 20 weeks of pregnancy?

Men who trust women should not be allowed to reproduce.


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