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Lech Walesa urged to "reduce Russia" to 50 million people


Paulina  16 | 4338
25 Apr 2024   #271
@Bobko, you made the world suffer.

But I know that sociopaths like you don't care.
Bobko  27 | 2154
25 Apr 2024   #272
you made the world suffer

By raising hundreds of millions out of poverty?

By giving them an education, which they now trade for a Green Card?

By liberating them from the clutches of greedy predators like France and the UK?

By giving every man and woman, in the developing part of the world, a sense of dignity and pride?

Russia is protector of the weak, and defender of justice. Hope you choke on this sentence.
Paulina  16 | 4338
25 Apr 2024   #273
By raising hundreds of millions out of poverty?

You mean those millions killed during Holodomor in Ukraine?
Or during the Great Chinese Famine?:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

By giving them an education, which they now trade for a Green Card?

Bobko, have you seen TV series titled "The Three-Body Problem" on Netflix (interesting series, btw)? I recommend you watch the beginning of the first episode - I think it will give you an idea about some of the things that communism brought to other countries...

Russia is protector of the weak, and defender of justice.

LOL
RuSSia is the protector of its own interests - nothing more than that :)))

Hope you choke on this sentence.

As a Pole knowing history I can only laugh at it :)
Bobko  27 | 2154
25 Apr 2024   #274
the Great Chinese Famine

Can you explain to me, why your capitalist overlords prefer to place production in Communist China and Vietnam?

Why not democratic India?

Why not freedom loving Brazil?

Why are some of the most successful countries in the "emerging markets" part of world, at least currently, those that benefited from Russian instruction... and not British or French or American?

The reason is education. The reason is healthcare. The reason is "actually caring about what makes for the fundamental dignity of man".

You may be richer and stronger than us for the moment, through various tricks of financial engineering, but we have the truth :)
Paulina  16 | 4338
25 Apr 2024   #275
Can you explain to me, why your capitalist overlords prefer to place production in Communist China and Vietnam?

Bobko, are you kidding me? lol The reason is cheap labour that can be easily exploited.

those that benefited from Russian instruction...

Which ones are you talking about? East Asians are hard-working peoples and crazy about education usually no matter whether they live in communist or capitalist/democratic countries and what "instruction" they got... 🤨

but we have the truth :)

Defenitely not RuSSians. Lying seems to be part of your nature :/
Torq  8 | 955
25 Apr 2024   #276
but we have the truth :)

... and poetry. The soul-penetrating poetry of Russia.

You are a good advocate for your country, Bobi. I would have hope for the Slavic Revival if there weren't 27 Kostyas and 11 Velis for every Bobko. ;)
Paulina  16 | 4338
25 Apr 2024   #277
@Torq, you must be living in some kind of alternate reality... lol (or what are you taking? It must be some strong stuff... lol)

You are a good advocate for your country, Bobi.

No, he isn't o_O He's a lying sociopath. Bobko, ConstantineK and Velund are messed up in their own unique ways, but at the end of the day - they are all sociopathic Putinists.

I would have hope for the Slavic Revival if there were't 27 Kostyas and 11 Velis for every Bobko. ;)

sigh

your capitalist overlords

How is making money in capitalist New York working out for you, btw? :))) Why not China or Vietnam?
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820
25 Apr 2024   #278
@Bobko,

Communism is a purely western invention, did you forget that?

The West is overcoming it at last, the Slavs should to!
Novichok  5 | 7903
25 Apr 2024   #279
By giving them an education, which they now trade for a Green Card?

Bingo! That's me. I got a free MSEE from "commies" and a green card a year later. I love communism!
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820
25 Apr 2024   #280
Shouldn't you then love the immigrants more? Fight for open borders? Greet all foreigners with open arms and wallet?

True to the old communist mantra: "Workers of the world, unite!"

*scratches head*
Novichok  5 | 7903
26 Apr 2024   #281
True to the old communist mantra: "Workers of the world, unite!"

I said that I love communism. I didn't say that I love communists.
Just as I liked immigration but only for my benefit. Once I was here, I wanted all immigration stopped.
Consistency is for idiots. Hypocrisy is good.
Torq  8 | 955
26 Apr 2024   #282
they are all sociopathic Putinists

Hey, nobody's perfect.

You are always trying to see the worst in people, Paulina. Try to notice good things too sometimes for a change.
Novichok  5 | 7903
26 Apr 2024   #283
Try to notice good things too sometimes for a change.

Putin is a patriot and loves Russia.
Biden is a moron and destroys his.
Alien  24 | 5739
26 Apr 2024   #284
🤔 Putin is a moron and destroys russia.
Biden is a patriot and destroys Putin.🙂
It's better this way.
Novichok  5 | 7903
26 Apr 2024   #285
Putin - 87%
Biden - 35%

Greater is better.
Alien  24 | 5739
26 Apr 2024   #286
Greater is better.

False statistics, ask how many of these 87% would flee from putin's country to Biden's country and vice versa.
Novichok  5 | 7903
26 Apr 2024   #287
ask how many of these 87% would flee from Putin's country

Ask how many Americans would flee to Switzerland. Especially those who live in Detroiit. They sure are free to leave but decided to stay. Duh!

If this is too complicated, voting is different from emigration. I left Poland in 1966 for the US. All my buddies chose to stay.

A moron's conclusion: In 1966, Poland was better than the US.

Your posts are embarrassing.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820
26 Apr 2024   #288
Na ja....if you follow that logic even the biggest dirthole in Africa is better than Europe....most still decide to stay there and don't make the big move...

;)
Alien  24 | 5739
26 Apr 2024   #289
embarrassing

It's a cool word, but the posts can't be embarrassing, only arguments can be, and usually yours.
mafketis  38 | 11001
26 Apr 2024   #290
russia might end up reducing itself to 50 million on its own....

floods in the kurgan region (preceded by decades of neglect to infrastructure in favor of invading neighbors) mean that uranium wells and radioactive mud will be entering the river tobol....

twitter.com/LXSummer1/status/1782506863747121224
Novichok  5 | 7903
26 Apr 2024   #291
Staying or going is one thing. Voting is a separate decision. Conflating the two is a deflection.
Bobko  27 | 2154
26 Apr 2024   #292
The reason is cheap labour that can be easily exploited.

I noticed you completely ignored my references to democratic India (the world's largest democracy) and Brazil.

They have cheaper labor than China or Vietnam. India, in fact, has a larger population than China.

Yet, Tim Cook is now struggling to relocate his Apple supply chain at least partially to India. The Indians cannot manufacture the iPhone without at least a 50% rate of dud devices.

Tim Cook himself says, that India and China are heaven and earth - when it comes to engineering talent.

Why do Russian education systems produce more intelligent people than British or American ones?
Torq  8 | 955
26 Apr 2024   #293
Why do Russian education systems produce more intelligent people than British or American ones?

I know the answer to this question but I want to read Paulina's explanation first.
AntV  3 | 693
26 Apr 2024   #294
I'm interested in knowing the answer, so hurry up Paulina!
Bobko  27 | 2154
26 Apr 2024   #295
I know the answer to this question

In case you question my premise that the Chinese system is basically a carbon copy of the Russian system - you should read about the early days of its formation.

Same with Vietnam.

It's the same in Africa.

In the Caribbean.

Again, I'm not claiming we are top of the world, and everything is great. But the education system was, and is, a good one.
AntV  3 | 693
26 Apr 2024   #296
But the education system was, and is, a good one.

What makes it good?

Our education system has turned to absolute junk.
Bobko  27 | 2154
26 Apr 2024   #297
What makes it good?

Nothing in particular that didn't exist in your system, but was subsequently washed out.

In general, I'm not a pedagogue, and can't offer much intelligent commentary on difference in methodologies, etc. I can only comment on the empirically observable results, and my own experience.

The Russian system is inherited from the Soviet Union, which in turn was largely inherited from the preceding Imperial system.

Personally, I feel the Russian education system right now is a piece of sh*t compared to the imperial system. When I read about what Russian mathematicians, or authors, or philosophers were producing when they were 18-20 years old - it puts to shame most current inhabitants of Russia in the group 30-60.

People used to be just much smarter, if they were in schools or universities.

Now any kind of trash can get in, and this brings down the entire level of discussion. You can have a genius professor, and a brilliant textbook, but you'll still move only as fast as the biggest dumbas* in the class.

This may be one difference. The Russian system is more brutal, and in it there is less space for making sure the retards can keep up. This way, the talents are less squandered.
AntV  3 | 693
26 Apr 2024   #298
@Bobko

Your observations are the same as mine. Standards have been drastically lowered in the name of self-esteem...or to ensure enrollment doesn't tank.

There's also the cultural aspect. Disruptive crass and self-centered behaviors are tolerated, the quashing of viewpoints other than what is popular, catering to abnormalities, etc.

In grade schools and high schools the curricula are weak or tortuous. I have hope, as we are seeing more and more schools with classical curriculums popping up.
Miloslaw  21 | 5022
26 Apr 2024   #299
@Bobko
@AntV

You both make some excellent points on education, it is being dumbed down all over the western world, the UK,USA,France,Germany and almost everywhere in the west where the leftists are taking over.
Novichok  5 | 7903
26 Apr 2024   #300
You both make some excellent points on education, it is being dumbed down all over the Western world,

Because the world turned matriarchal. In that world, facts don't matter, logic doesn't matter, competition is mean, everybody gets a participation trophy, and nobody is judged...

The only thing that matters is feeeeelings. If a boy feeeeels he is a cat, he gets a sandbox in his classroom. No, I am not making it up.

In a patriarchal school, he would be told to STFU and sit down.

Except for the babies, women are useless.


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