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Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps'


Crow  154 | 9609
6 Feb 2018   #421
@Crnogorac3

I know that and much more. I am CROW here, you know. But, fact is, Jews extending their hand, when it comes to Slavic (ie Sarmatian) antiquity. Our honesty require us to accept that hand, in mutual interest.

Of course, Poles do have every right to have that law on 'Polish death camps'. I only say that we talk nicely to Jews because Jews recognize vital Slavic interest by speaking truth about our past, while, as we all know, western Europe still hiding and stealing from Slavs.
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452
6 Feb 2018   #422
Do you require more?????????????????????????????????????????

The list of UB agents who killed patriotic AK NSZ etc members would be even longer.

Zionists have been trying to subvert societies their entire history. Even Winston Churchill wrote about this phenomenon in his famous essay Zionism Vs Bolshevism: Struggle for the Jewish Soul

GEORGE SOROS

V4 enemy number 1!!!

Jews extending their hand,

No, they aren't. Zionists wish to keep Israel a pure ethnostate but they despise any attempts for a goy nation to do the same. Just look at all the 'opposition' in Poland which is financed and managed through and through by Zionists i.e. Michnik.This is why so many Zionists support uncontrolled migration. In fact, the 1965 open immigration law was written by a Zionist senator named Jacob Javitz (who famously exclaimed 'open the floodgates') In fact, it is also a Zionist who publicly exclaimed that '....Europe cannot be monolithic society it once was and Jews will be at the center of that transformation, we will be resented because of our leading role' The Zionists, EU liberals, and corporate leaders have allied to turn EU citizens into a mindless mass of rootless irreligious consumers who apologize for muslim crimes. the sad thing is there's so many liberals who are too foolish to see that, or like a cuck with a low T counts mentality, simply prefer to accept simpler terms....
Crow  154 | 9609
6 Feb 2018   #423
Pax Vobiscum
Casual Observer
6 Feb 2018   #424
Good for him. And Ms Holland still doesn't have a Polish name as she is a half breed

If you're talking blood and soil, then Agnieska Holland is more Polish than Trump is American, because both of Holland's parents were born and raised in Poland, whereas Trump's mother was born in another country and had no previous connection to America. Trump's mother didn't even have English as a first language, and Trump's grandparents didn't speak English at all. Trump's mother had to apply for US citizenship, and got it only 4 years before Trump was born.

So Trump is a "half-breed" too, right? The product of a rutting between a US citizen and a Scottish immigrant girl who spoke English as a second language.

after his/her people were kicked out of every other European country

Trump's family on his mother's side were kicked out of the Scottish mainland by their landlords, in favour of sheep, so had to go live on an island, and half og them emigrated to the USA due to poverty. Holland's parents were both born, lived and died in Poland, as full Polish citizens. That's more than you can say about Trump's heritage as an American, or indeed about yours and yourself as a citizen of anywhere.

Blood and soil, eh, chump? That blood gets a little diluted by the Atlantic, doesn't it!
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452
6 Feb 2018   #425
Polish nationalists cannot fall prey to the false promises of the Zionists like the EDL and the US has. Thankfully, the collective memory of Poles prevent this due to the Jewish crimes against Polish people from 1945-1967 (and afterwards to an extent).

Sadly, most nationalists don't even realize how entrenched Zionists are in the struggle.

For example:
breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/17/breitbart-news-network-born-in-the-usa-conceived-in-israel

Holland's parents were both born, lived and died in Poland, as full Polish citizens.

Doesn't make her of Polish stock - especially not with a name like 'Holland', she's half Polish, half Jewish not 100% Polish.

And good for Trump - idc if he was born in Madagascar as long as he's keep taxes low and trying to end chain migration
Casual Observer
6 Feb 2018   #426
she's half Polish, half Jewish not 100% Polish.

Her Polish passport says otherwise. You seem to think YOUR Polish passport means a lot, so you must also accept hers, and that of both her parents. Can't have it both ways!

And, pur-lease, you're citing Breitbart as a link and expect people to take it seriously?! :D
gregy741  5 | 1226
6 Feb 2018   #427
Her Polish passport says otherwise.

shes a traitor..we need legislation to revoke polish nationality to traitors.sent them back to countries they supported against Poland
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452
6 Feb 2018   #428
Poles, Hungarians, Greeks, and many other nationalities understand that Zionists will always be supremacists and will always think of non-Jews as 'goys' or cattle in Hebrew/Yiddish... nothing is going to change that except the Zionists themselves and they don't be in any rush to act like a normal civilized nation that doesn't bomb schools and hospitals and respect the UN

What I find surprising is that now various studies say that anti-Semitism has skyrocketed in France. Guess they didn't expect that to happen with the deluge of migrants from ME and Africa - no of course not, because radical muslims and Zionists just love each other. Thanks to them, now the French Jews are making aliyah to Israel - mainly residing in illegal settlements as they as subsidized by the government (with the assistance undoubtedly of US tax dollars). I don't know which is worse though - radical migrants or Zionist supremacists?

theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/is-it-time-for-the-jews-to-leave-europe/386279/

1/3 Poles express anti-Semitic views - I believe that number to be higher though
global100.adl.org/#country/poland/2015

40% for Hungary, and 67% for Greece - dayum even higher than Iran

forward.com/opinion/390445/muslim-anti-semitism-in-europe-hurts-jews-but-so-does-islamophobia/

ahhh Poland's finest right on top

forward.com/opinion/world/388087/i-hid-from-neo-nazis-in-poland-but-they-found-me-online/

more about Poland standing up to Zionist infiltrators and soros operatives

And, pur-lease, you're citing Breitbart as a link and expect people to take it seriously?! :D@ Casual Observer

The purpose is to show how Zionists infiltrated both the left, and the right - to which breibart belongs. On breitbart, they don't even hide the Zionist influence. At least the EDL tried to keep it low key.

Poles cannot allow this same infiltration of our media - especially the right wing media outlets.
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452
6 Feb 2018   #429
shes a traitor..we need legislation to revoke polish nationality to traitors.sent them back to countries they supported against Poland

Amen. Don't forget about people like Michnik, all the MEPs voting to sanction Poland, the commies - especially those who served in SB/UB, Tusk, PO leaders who sold Poland out to western bidders, all the crooked liberal politicians who give their PO friends non-bid contracts or embezzle funds, any people that are affiliated with soros organizations, and all of wyborcza

The president of Czechy, Zeman once joked with Putin that 'there's too many journalists - they ought to be liquidated' rofl
G (undercover)
6 Feb 2018   #430
This one? en.wikipedia

The Polish one. There's much more about daddy.
Casual Observer
6 Feb 2018   #431
Dirk, I'm interested, what's stopping you moving back to Poland and getting your hands dirty with building this dream nation you espouse?

Or do you prefer to live in the US and just lob vitriol over the Atlantic at Polish people who live in Poland, are voted for by Poles (MEPs, PO).

I mean, haven't you betrayed Poland yourself by, y'know, running off to another country and contributing to that nation, which sides with Israel, and criticises PiS's actions on the rule of law (state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2017/07/272791.htm)

Doesn't make you a kind of traitor to Poland? Living in and contributing to a USA whose state dept criticises PiS actions on the judiciary?

Why not put your money where your massive mouth is, and move all of your resoruces to Poland, including your sorry ass, and roll up your sleeves and get to work there? Poland for Poles, right? And you're a Pole, so that's where you should be, isn't it?

Otherwise, I suppose it might look like you're a hypocrite. Or, perhaps worse, an outside agent trying to stir the sh1t without wanting to practice what you preach.

Blood and soil, brother. So shouldn't your meatsack of blood be on Polish soil?
Lyzko  41 | 9694
6 Feb 2018   #432
@Dirk,
The Israelis might well be as misguided as they Poles in this respect, or even the Nazis! In poetry, we do speak of "foreign blood" (The Marseilleise, for example), yet we know in reality that such doesn't, cannot exist....if you believe in science:-)))

As to why the Jews kept getting thrown out again and again from most European countries has as much to do with Catholic dogma concerning alleged Christ killers as anything else.
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452
7 Feb 2018   #433
@Casual Observer

Has nothing to do with this thread. I know its a hard concept to grasp but a person can have more than one home in more than one country, same with businesses - a person can operate a business that is registered overseas. And the choice to move wasnt mine otherwise i wouldve stayed. Theres plenty of poles that work in germany, uk etc but spend their money here. In the same sense theres tons of poles who migrated to us and will work till they have enough money to return and exist in a state of semiretirement. I aim to stay for good once i feel i have enough money saved up and am ready to have kids as i sure as hell wont raise tuem in the us.

@Lyzko
That would be fine but they were kicked out of non catholic countries too. When 1 or 2 countries to8wns etc kick the jews out that could perhaps be chalked up to antisemitism. But when it comes to over 100 - including countries/cities/principalities in the middle east, asia, africa which werent under the vaticans control the antisemite argument no longer holds water. If 100 different people, all from different areas with unique belief systems, are all telling you thwy dont like you and want you out, well clearly its something with that personu, not the 100 individuals. The crazy thing is even after getting kicked out they went right back in amd whining about antisemitism. Also, many of the expulsions took place in the first two centuries when christianity was still a fringe movement.

But no the jews didnt kill christ - they did not actually drive the spear into his body but they may as well have. The jewish establishment complained to pilate and demanded christs execution. Even pilate said that he didnt think jesus did anything bad. But not in the jewish establishment of the days eyes, jesus was less worthy of life to them than barrabus - a murderer and thief who was set free so jesus could die instead. His crime according to the jews: blasphemy. Same reason why muslims kill people to this day. But thats really besides the point.

The point is poland doesnt stick its nose in israels affairs and they shouldn't in ours. It is none of their business what laws we want to pass in our country.
Lyzko  41 | 9694
7 Feb 2018   #434
Poles weren't murdered in Israel, were they? Yet Jews were murdered in Poland. The families and survivors of Auschwitz wound up where?? In Palestine aka modern Israel.

Guess, Netanyahu and Ambassador Azari see some connection there.
G (undercover)
7 Feb 2018   #435
Poles weren't murdered in Israel, were they?

Poles were murdered in Poland (and elsewhere) by Jews. But of course it's "anti-Semitic" to even mention that.
Lyzko  41 | 9694
7 Feb 2018   #436
If you mean Jews killing gentile Poles who sought to kill them, you're historically right. The example though beggars comparison....except to an anti-Semite.
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452
7 Feb 2018   #437
Nope, but plenty of Jews who later fled to Israel, Sweden, etc have killed Poles. Regardless, even if Poles did kill jews in some circumstances, we never established death camps.

Not quite. The most popular all Jewish militias were under the command of the ak while al, which had a mix of Jews and poles was under soviet command. Jews, especislly those in al, later became ub agents and killed ak patriots who fought alongside, not against jews, as they were following moscows demands whuch they were all too happy to implenet. Theres plenty of records that show ak had to protect polish and some jewish peasants from bands of jews who lived in forests and would pillage farms, oftentimes killing the owners. The only group that was openly antisemitic was the nsz which had a fraction of the people the ak had. That didnt matter to bloodthirsty jews lile michnik and morel who were all too happy to have polish patriots killed, and it wasnt only because of moscows orders. In a lot of cases it was simple anti polish sentiment by UB jews and jewish judges.
Ironside  50 | 12515
7 Feb 2018   #438
Once they were able to get into leadership positions like in the UB they immediately set out to killing AK members and other Poles.

Well, some other time I would object to your unfair generalization but after Israel and some Jews all over the place started this unprecedented attack on Poland using exactly the same unfair generalization. I just can't be bother to object.

I might add on the same note:
I'm sure there some decent, great, friendly Jews today and in the past but there is so very few of them.
No wonder that anywhere they go there is anti-Semitism. Coincidence?

You can be a Polish citizen and be brown, black, yellow or whatever, but like a Jew, that black/brown/red person can never be a Pole in terms of nationality, blood, etc.

Hmm.... leading Polish nationalists with Dmowski on the top of the list disagree with your idea. What you have written is what the German Nazis and now Israeli think about their nations.

he's a Polish citizen born and bred, just because she's not just like you doesn't make her any less Polish.

I told you what make her not Polish. Even America can afford to tolerate people like her (born and bread American citizens that despise American values and history) only to the point. Poland cannot.
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452
7 Feb 2018   #439
Generalization? Half of UB leadership was jewish in the years after ww2. A gross overrepresntation considering jews were but a small fraction of the post ww2 polish population. Anyone can look this fact up. UB and the relvant courts, often lead by jewish judges like michnik, were the ones primarily responsible for killing ak members i.e. trial of the 16, trial of the generals, etc.
Casual Observer
7 Feb 2018   #440
Has nothing to do with this thread..... And the choice to move wasnt mine otherwise i wouldve stayed.

Has everything to do with it. You question the 'Polishness' and worth or Agnieska Holland, and claim to be better and 'more' Polish than her. Yet she lives in Poland and makes her business there, putting all of her resources into Poland. Meanwhile, you put most of your resrouces into the USA, which is where you spend your time.

So, Holland is in Poland doing what she can to improve the country (in what way she sees best, like opposing this law in the open letter), whereas you criticise her from about 4000 miles away, where you out your energy, time and resources into a country that has criticised PiS's laws and prioritises Israel over virtually every other country, including Poland.

You say the choice to leave wasn't yours, but I assume you're an adult now (can't be sure!) so the choice to return and make your business in Poland is now yours. You could fully participate in Polish society and contribute to society as you see fit, like Holland does.

Strangely, YOU decide not to do that. YOU decide to stay in the USA, and put your energy into that society, yet dare to criticise those that put their money where their mouths are, like Holland.

You're a hypocrite. A foreign, American hypocrite.
Ironside  50 | 12515
7 Feb 2018   #441
Half of UB leadership was jewish in the years after ww2.

so what? - it doesn't reflect the Jewish population as a whole - unless we take Jewish/Israeli point of view and use it this case, then yes, Jews are responsible for exterminating/murdering Polish heroes and elites after 1944, hand in hand with the Red Army. We should ask for apology and compensation from Israel.
Casual Observer
7 Feb 2018   #442
I aim to stay for good once i feel i have enough money saved up

You claimed to have a $million house, and businesses there. That could last you the rest of your life in Poland. What are you waiting for?

Oh, I'm sure you'll find plenty of reasons why you can't move to Poland just yet...you'll be saying that to yourself for the rest of your life. You know it.
Ironside  50 | 12515
7 Feb 2018   #443
Yet she lives in Poland and makes her business there, putting all of her resources into Poland.

Not really as far as I know. Also she was until recently sucking out recourse FROM Poland, in the form of governmental grants i.e. Polish taxpayer financed her anti-Polish movies.

PiS cut out that flow of money. No wonder she doesn't like Polish gov now.
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452
7 Feb 2018   #444
An official day of remembrance for all the poles killed by jewish traitors and their soviet masters would suffice. That would give future generations knowledge of history and to be weary of non Poles.

@Casual Observer
Never said i was better or worse than holland. What i did say is she is not a pole by blood - or a half breed ar best with the jewish part clearly showing through more thaan the polish
Casual Observer
7 Feb 2018   #445
Never said i was better or worse than holland.

Ok, let's find out:

Are you a better Pole than Holland?

Are you more Polish than Holland?
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452
7 Feb 2018   #446
Just read this

/2018/02/06/poland-wants-to-outlaw-blaming-poles-for-nazi-atrocities-but-what-about-the-jedwabne-massacre

Dayum as i said its all about nationalism
Casual Observer
7 Feb 2018   #447
And?

Are you a better Pole than Holland?

Are you more Polish than Holland?
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452
7 Feb 2018   #448
First off hopefully id never do something that isnt in thr interest of Polish Christians (aka true Poles by blood, not a piece of paper) or the Polish nation as a whole, like support a foreign nation in a conflict or vote to suspend my own countrys voting rights like the po traitors did. Naturally, agnieszka being a half breed with an English last name is not of pure polish blood and neither is she a 'good pole' as she took israels (surprise surprise) position rather than polands, which a true polish christian would not do. Its like with friends or family, they may not always be right but you still gotta back them up. Poland and poles may do stupid things here and there but id never go against my nation and my people. This isnt thr first time half breed holland took an anti polish position either - like many zionists and even non zionist jews, their loyalty is first and foremost to israel, not the natiin they live in or have citizenship in. Holland is clearly no different. Even her movies like europa europa focused on jews, not poles further illustrating to whom her loyalty lies - with other jews, not poles. Id give my live for poland, i guaruntee you holland wouldnt as poland and poles simply arent where her loyalties lay.
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452
7 Feb 2018   #449
So it's been established that yes, some poles did kill jews during ww2, absolutely and no one is denying that. However there were no death camps set up by poles. What would be interesting is if we conducted research on the poles that were killed by jews such as those in AL, UB, etc. We know of the many murders of AK leaders killed by jews such as michnik, but we dont know how many rank and file ak members were killed. It has to be in the thousands if not tens of thousands. That would be interesting to research. Perhaps one day such studies and research will be undertaken. All poles know about the atrocities committed by jews following ww2, but we do not have a good estimate of the deaths.
mafketis  38 | 11109
7 Feb 2018   #450
Who do I look like?

Like someone with a massive inferiority complex and case of alienation (not feeling truly at home anywhere) seeking to dull the pain by associating himself with a group to which he doesn't really belong in any meaningful way (and to compensate for his marginal status he reconstructs a version of the group in his head where he does belong, more so than many real and distinguished members of the group).

You asked.


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