Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament

I understand you count yourself among the "polite society" here in Poland

Indeed, he is a Catholic and can prove it by voting for people who support abortion, LGBT ideology, and all progressive stuff there is.
. On top of it, he is an aristocrat from the locked-down PGR.

Being polite has nothing to do with not swearing, don't be such a f*cking petit bourgeois. *rolls eyes*


*yaaaaawn*

I said it a million times - I am a proud peasant (hence I vote for PSL) who only happens to be living in a city these days. :)
One day, when I don't have to work my arse off anymore, I will definitely go back to the countryside.

Everyone has dreams that usually don't come true.

His dreams...

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... might come true if Polish patriots don't turn up en masse at polling stations.

This incident is a really good example of what an unintentionally hilarious, ridiculous place Poland is. A very silly country that takes itself very seriously.

Braun, crazed with antisemitic fervour, decides to fire-extinguish a menorah in parliament. He fully believes that this is a serious, dignified act of protest. The polish left, meanwhile, are aghast, thinking this is a shocking and violent act of intolerance in the very halls of government.

But when I see the video/photos of Braun stalking off grim-faced and shoulders set with his suit covered in white powder, bystanders also coated in the stuff and spluttering in the haze, all I can think is: "bloody hell, what a ridiculous madhouse this place is. Lol."

This isn't normal stuff to happen. This is a very 'only in Poland' kind of thing. xD hihi

Run back to America. We are allowed to do things that will get you into prison in Europe.

@Novichok
I'm not from the US. I think where I'm from, something like this wouldn't get you sent to prison but maybe it would get you sectioned under the mental health act. Because it's just bonkers behaviour. Poland really is such a funny place.

Anti-Semite = a person with the ability to associate facts and recognize patterns of behavior
A person without these abilities = a level of intelligence below that of some animals

@Korvinus
Yeah whatever.

Let's recap what happened with yer man there.

He wanted to make a statement about that menorah in parliament.

Now, he could have snuffed it out.
He could have pushed it over.
He could even have thrown water on it.

Any one of those things would have been slightly more dignified and non-nuts than what he did.

He decided to let off a fire extinguisher in an enclosed space, covering himself and all others present in its emissions, and then stomped off like "mission accomplished". That's objectively hilarious. I can't look at the photos of him, grimly serious in the fire extinguisher mist, his suit covered in powder, without laughing.

Just another day in the surreal slapstick comedy that is Poland.

The place where one party leader held a press conference and waved a dildo on camera and a former president ran a party political broadcast dressed as a court jester under a banner saying "everything is black and white".

I think it's simpler than that.... he's just an attention vvhore who gets regular supply when he does crap like that.

The idea that he actually believes that he should have a personal veto over displays in the Sejm is just nuts.n Who appointed him the arbiter of what's permissable to display?

People that approve are just marks (the type that takes professional wrestling seriously). He winds them up and profits from them.

He's a grifter.

I have voted Braun just for that stunt he pulled off against the jews with his +5 Bonus damage vs jews Fire Extinguisher...
That dude is one in 6 million. Worthy of respect.
Fun fact: the lady who "coincidentally" attended the Hanukkah ritual and got sprayed by Braun is a doctor who had previously promoted covid vaccines for PiS government. A hired extra?

Have you thought about killing urself?

@Korvinus
Is that he medically recommended cure for life in Poland? Have you tried it? Did the rope snap but your brain was deprived of bloodflow just long enough to have the evident impact?

How about that press conference when Kamiński and Błaszczak showed a video allegedly found on migrants' phones, showing a man having sex with an animal, which they labeled as a cow, calling it "evidence of zoophilia" among Middle Eastern migrants? Investigative outlets quickly revealed the clip was not from any migrant's device, was old internet content, and even featured a horse - not a cow.

Or that PiS MP (Sobecka?) who claimed that people don't come from monkeys and demanded that schools return to Biblical teaching. Or when Braun proposed exorcisms for Parliament and holy water purification of public offices. Or the entire Tinky-Winky drama. Or when Ziemkiewicz waved a banana on stage while ranting against the EU and leftist degeneracy.

F*ckinhell... I admit that in the eyes of foreigners it must seem at least a little bit odd. :D

But hey - this is our country, we love it, and no Tinky Winky, zoophilic migrants or homosexual EU cows will ever undermine our love. Ha!

You'd think they'd have known the difference.


That one hit headlines everywhere.

You're a mark and you support members of parliament vandalizing displays on public property that they disapprove of.

Come to think of it, it only shows the extent of negative selection to Polish politics. We have so many smart people in the arts, technology and academia, so why is it almost invariably the greatest retards that make it to the top tier of our government? One of the mysteries of the Universe...

Why can't we be more like Britain in this regard? With proper elites, coming from the best public schools, old boys' networks and all that. Why do we have to treat the damn democracy seriously and allow the unwashed mob to vote how they like for whom they like? :( Sure, our elites were slaughtered in partitions, wars and uprisings but didn't we have enough time to rebuild them, at least partially? Down with this democracy-idiocracy thing!

Evolution can deal with that.... which is why many impressive people come from unimpressive parents and why high achieving parents often have average (or below) children.

What Poland (many countries actually) need is better ways of spotting and nurturing talent as well as finding graceful exits for the failspawn of elites.

The US came close to that during a few long stages in the 20th century but that's over....

That so often just gives mediocre people some polish and connections.


There's talent there, however rarely in politics.

Some U.K. politicians are disappointing when you meet them. In Poland that is squared; there are some truly appalling people in the Sejm, some of them known to me.

He mentioned many times before doing it that parliament is not a synagogue.

It's the same in Britain.

Britain finds itself in the mess it currently is, largely because the same Oxbridge people that got a 2:2 PPE end up in government.

David Cameron, Rishi Sunak, Ed Miliband, Malcolm Fraser, etc...

As an engineer, you know it is infinitely harder to get decent grades in the sciences, than to get a B+ average in "Philosophy, Politics, and Economics".

Anybody that can make a decent salary being a barrister or a banker, would never enter the British civil service.

Nor is it a church, mosque or temple, yet it's not unusual for communities' holidays to be celebrated.

If he didn't like that, make a formal complaint. Instead of making a díck of himself by destroying something.


Not exactly easy universities to get into. Better a degree (ideally an arts degree) from there than the way they do it in France. And of course there's no real reason for a politician to have a degree at all. Some of the best of them didn't.


The civil service aren't politicians. The people at the top of it are, by the way, very often "educated generalists" something that works well.

Hmm... might be the same problem in Poland. If we are to believe the official sources, I make more than our foreign minister. This must turn smart, honest people off of politics (because crooks will always find a way to turn political power into material profit). This might well be the reason for the negative selection.

So, what's the conclusion? Is the Russian system with disgustingly rich (and hence hard to corrupt) hermetical elites better? A rhetorical question really...

I'm an "educated generalist". I did basically a PPE (history + economics), at a similarly prestigious American institution. I also got grades that would land me a 2:2 in Britain. Certainly not a 2:1 or a First.

I would never dare compare myself to some guy that studied applied mathematics, and now works at a quant hedge fund. Or a guy that that did computer science and symbolic systems - and now works at an AI lab.

Simply different leagues. My brain does not possess that kind of horsepower.

Unfortunately these people rarely want to go into public service. A rare exception is the mathematician that won the recent election in Romania against a football hooligan. There's Angela Merkel who has a PhD in Quantum Physics. I think Thatcher had some kind of a chemistry degree. That's all I can think of.

Talking about educated generalists and British civil service, I vaguely remember a scene from Yes, Minister, with two civil servants casually discussing noun cases in ancient Greek during their work hours. I thought it was pretty hilarious and impressive at the same time. :)

Yes, so very useful for making the lives of Britons better.

Maybe not very useful but still I would rather trust a guy who knows his ancient Greek Datives and Genitives than an upstart who got a dostateczny on his sociology MA diploma and is the first in his family to get any university degree at all. Call me a snob but I've pretty much had it with inteligenci z awansu in Polish politics. :(

Why compare?

It seems much better to have a generalist in office than a mathematician.


She had degrees in both Chemistry and Law from Oxford. Nevertheless, she was a bad person. Our current Deputy PM has a part time qualification that she got while working in an old people's home. It is the equivalent to the certificate that kids do at 16. Yet she is a highly skilled politician, and also comes across as much more genuine and much brighter than most elsewhere in Europe.

About people further up the social scale, one thing that distinguishes there from most other places is that the brightest people often don't go into corporate life. They go into public administration, security services, the arts,, farming and the military. Some have money already however most aren't obsessively chasing it.

About Poland, a back bench politician doesn't earn much and few like to declare their assets, There is also corruption in public life which leads to cynicism.

To some extent, I've felt this and noticed it.

In America we have Luke Walton. Supposedly the 39th richest person in the world, with exactly $39B in net worth.

Dude shows up to his fund everyday, and sits on conference calls for hours. Meets with the heads of his portfolio companies. Helps navigate day to day problems, etc.

In Britain, he'd lead some charmed life hanging out with William and Hugh Grosvenor, and making sh*t appearances for stupid charities in Lesotho and Burundi.

You guys still have a real aristocracy. It's still considered in bad taste for sons of the gentry to do real work. It's bad taste to actually want money, or to try to crawl out of your skin just to have a taste of power.

But this is what makes British society so absolutely inaccessible to outsiders. Doesn't matter if you are a US tech billionaire, a Russian oil oligarch, or some Indian metallurgist.

America's "elite" is much more democratic.