Theater, art, music, architecture, fine cuisine? some of the best example of the aformentioned have been created by white people..
These are not identified as a white "cultural" artifact though. Polish culture, French culture, Catholic culture, Jewish culture...sure. People don't identify these things you list as "white culture" but rather credit other sources of inspiration.
My favorite film last year was the movie Hunger...made by a gentleman born in London...about the Irish Hunger Strike. I identify that as part of Irish-UK culture but the director is black.
And fine cuisine? Come on. You have mostly Polish/Irish/UK people posting here and none of your cuisine is really all that. The best food to come out of the UK isn't even close to being from a "white" origin (talking Indo/Paki).
When you say a black person, so you mean someone who has been here for several generations who works and lives in a nice area then maybe but if you mean someone who has arrived in the UK in recent years, then I would say no.
Compared to someone who is white but has only been in the UK for a couple months? Immigrants are immigrants regardless of skin color and they will have their own world views making them extremely foreign to the native population. Yes, someone who is black and, let's say, from the US will be very different, but from what you know about Polish folk, do you think they will be that much more like yourself? That's what I mean by culture. Skin color has very little to do with it.
Most breeds of dogs have gone to pot simply because they have been bred from an asthetic point of view and not really cared to think about the genetic point of view since breeders are not scientists.
And that's different from how people behave...how? Most people I know who are "I only date white/polish/non-polish" people are not exactly scientists. Nor should they be! I'm just saying let people be and if they're happy, be happy for them. It's hard enough to find the right person nowadays and to limit your options seems imprudent.
I agree it's becoming cumbersome, but I still enjoy it. Helps me to analyze my position better. Won't hold it against you if you stop responding or only choose certain points to respond to. I won't have the time I have now to write forever so my responses will eventually trail off and my presence on this forum will fall to a trickle.
Agreed. And now I have to respond to ShelleyS too! This may be my last post on this matter (I get to PF only once a week or so) but I appreciate the conversation. I will probably not convince you otherwise and you will likely not convince me but if the discussion gives people things to think about, I think it was worthwhile.
Changing races is not cosmetic surgery. Race includes your DNA.
But that's part of the future of "cosmetic" medicine. It's been ages since I studied Cell and Structural Biology in undergrad but I'm talking about genetic manipulation. If, let's say, an Asian couple genetically modify their offspring to take on largely white characteristics...different skin tone, eyes, hair. I think this portion of the conversation has gone off track a bit, though.
The culture is a by-product of the genetic make up the population. Caucasians have differences in abilities within their race also. Anything that will be called "white culture" is a culmination of manifestation of the cultures of the Caucasoids. But there also has to be a comparison point. There has to be an "other".
Sure. I'll comment on the portion concerning culture. The "other" for a very long time has been other white cultures which can be extremely different and often hostile to each other. Culturally, do Germans and Polish have much in common? To some, no. But someone who knows a lot of Polish folks would likely be a little sensitive to equate the two. So a lot of these cultural artifacts that Europe, in particular, has developed has not been born of the concept that the other is "not white" but rather not French/German/Polish/etc. The other as not white is a more recent convention and has less to show for itself, imho.
Not that the mixing of two cultures is a bad thing from my point of view. I love that there are Korean Burrito trucks driving around LA and getting raves. There's so many odd and wonderful things out there (and terrible, yes, there's plenty of bad with the good, white or non-white though), I hate seeing anyone shut them out.
What does this mean exactly? You're simply saying that you don't want to get in the way of other male's attempts to get females. On an individual level that might be fine and dandy but on a macro scale (as a population) if all of a sudden the males step aside or are lenient in allow access to females from competing males, they won't last very long as a population. I see it as a pacifist stance. But there is still something worthy to be said for the primal nature of survival and propagation of one's group.
I see it more as a Pat Buchanan/non-interventionist/conservative stance. Or, if you would like to look at it from a macro/breeding/populations angle then I think of it as regular evolution of the human race. If white/black/other skin colors are different but no better than the other then, to me, the mixing of the races is fine. If you want to look at it from a social/cultural angle, it's already a losing battle since modern white culture borrows more from other cultures anyways (I'm referring to the folks who rail against "kids and their hip hop music" and the like...).
But, to me, people should do what they like as long as it doesn't hurt other people. It's a lot more complicated than that, of course, but it's been good to discuss this.