DO RELIGIOUS POLISH GIRLS STILL EXIST IN THIS GENERATION

The misleading pitch:


The true intention:


Indeed, the objectification of Polish "girls" is what would be expected of a sex tourist and not some charismatic Catholic who believes in the biblical context of a relationship.


That's either a confession from a peeping Tom or the fantasy of an old man stuck for decades in a sexless marriage.

Urban centers are always reliant on rural areas. Not only for goods and services but even population growth and therefore culture and values. The so-called urban sophisticates are only a couple generations removed from the farm and village themselves.

He confused women with all those men he had (or more likely men that had him).

I feel the same way about you. By the way, stop basing your knowledge of Poland only on Polish people in Warsaw.


Hah let him have his fun. He can claim what he wants on the internet, if it makes him feel good about himself.

Sorry Biegers, but it's actually neither, it's just the normal experience of average foreigners in Poland in the 1990s, the 2000s and this decade.

I say "average" because I doubt that a morbidly obese home-schooled American with absolutely no social skills would have the same experience, but I have to say "doubt" as I am not and never have been any of those things, perhaps somebody who ticks those boxes could check for us?


Warsaw is only one of the six Polish cities I've lived in, and one of the larger number of cities I've had premarital sex in. Isn't that six more Polish cities than you've lived in?

The so-called "normal experience" you speak of regarding average foreigners in Poland have either been as prostitutes from places like Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Romania and elsewhere with their equally foreign clientele hailing from the UK, Germany and elsewhere.


Sounds like a life lived on the run. But from what?

I was assuming he was fishing for a paid marriage to get a visa to Poland (and thence to western Europe)


His conscience or creditors or both.

Not only that but Harry evidently has supernatural powers as he can read the minds of Polish church goers and know their real reasons for attending mass.

Thanks all for your contributions. Now i know better about polish girls attitude towards premarital sex

In the unlikely event you ever visit Poland, you'll find that the majority of customers of brothels are unhappily married men. Single men know that if they want sex it only takes a little effort and time, especially in the age of Tinder. Have you heard of Tinder?


Not really, fairly normal for living in Poland for 22 years. But I do appreciate that it might be hard for those who rarely leave the safety of their parents' house to understand that.


I can't do that, but I can talk to them. Although I know even talking to them is impossible for you.

I await Harry's tales of the 100s of Polish women he has had sex with, spanning 6 Polish cities.

Hey perhaps I'm not giving him the credit he deserves - it might be 1000s.

Another example of "Harry-logic". Talk to a few people and then extrapolate so he becomes an expert on every church goer. Interesting that you are convinced I do not speak to Polish people. Taking cheap shots by firing random accusations eh Harry ?

It's quite telling that all these African and Middle Eastern countries are rapidly and collectively falling apart. I came across some rather interesting articles today which seem interrelated.

One was a Gallup poll that found 700 million migrants would move if they could with the "sun-kissed" areas of the world like Africa, Latin America and the Middle East topping the chart. Naturally their destination targets are North America and Europe where the desire of locals to migrate is among the lowest. Only Asia came dead last when it came to people having any desire to emigrate from and to there.

The other article was about people are at their most violent, uncaring, unhelpful and antisocial in higher temperature climates (obviously a few non-Polish posters on PF claiming to live in Poland disprove this but there are always outliers in any study).

A third article was about how so-called charities in the EU are using their money to pay off human traffickers in the Med to keep the flow of migrants into Europe steady (and obviously their own jobs at the charities secure) since many migrants can't afford the fees being demanded to be smuggled in.

At least the Nigerian OP has the advantage of being part of the Commonwealth. But interestingly he won't take that route. I suppose the UK is so saturated with them now and other migrant groups that the OP knows he wouldn't stand out and the locals there are now all too familiar with their worldwide reputation for scamming people. I imagine North America would be too inconveniently far for the OP to get back home. North America also has its own large scale diversity and again the OP wouldn't stand out. I've often heard that native Africans often look down on their own diaspora in North America and don't want to be associated with them or confused as being part of them.

It's not clear though why the OP and all the other migrant seekers from predominately Muslim countries assume Poland will be a soft touch like the UK, Germany and Sweden have been.

It's also not clear either what these migrants bring to the table. Western economies are undergoing a vast economic transformation. They are all post-industrial and don't need large workforces anymore.

As mentioned charities and the sex industry will always need bodies (literally) but neither of these special interest groups pay tax and they both rely on others in society picking up all the costs especially in the longterm. So 'eff them.

The Nigerian OP should stay at home to make his homeland a better place to live for other Nigerians and migrants looking to move to Nigeria which should be strongly encouraged too for the sake of diversity.

Apart from widespread corruption at every level of society and even a theocratic civil war tearing Nigeria apart there are other serious challenges like overpopulation, pollution, deforestation, soil degradation and desertification. There is so much to do to clean up Nigeria and yet the Nigerian OP wants to simply walk away from his responsibilities back home and live it large off the welfare tit of Europe (and preferably those attached to natural blondes as well of course).

Rather than accepting those fleeing the mess they made of their own societies (save those in actual physical danger and persecution like albino children and white Africans) Poland and the rest of Europe should only accept those who can demonstratively prove by their education, qualifications, and most importantly experience that they have something to contribute. And no, not those that the leftist, BBC-craving, fake news outlets propagandize about when they try to tell the public that illiterate, diseased, talentless teenage and twenty-something third worlders on the TV screens are doctors, lawyers and astrophysicists back in their African and Middle Eastern homelands.

Proving who you are and what you can contribute is the norm today when seeking employment in any Western society and it was the norm for millions of literate and skilled European migrants who went to North America in previous centuries and made those societies surpass even Europe in every known facet in making contributions which benefitted humanity both domestically and internationally.

Makers are needed now and in the future. Not takers.

Harry you have really built yourself up in to something on the internet haven't you? I suppose it's not that difficult to do.

Funnily enough it seems to be you and your fellow expat Brits who spend the most time on these forums, and have done for the past few years - but of course it's you guys who have been all around Poland, spoken to many different people, understanding how Polish people think, why they believe what they believe, why they do the things they do and of course, you've had sex with hundreds of women too. The rest of us live in the basement and sit on the computer all day, never leaving the house, right?

Like I said, whatever helps you sleep at night.

You'll be waiting a long time, a gentleman doesn't tell tales about such things.


Another example of spiritus 'truth'. I love the way that whenever he's being owned in a discussion due to having so little knowledge of and experience in Poland he starts to try to argue with something his superior didn't actually say. Or course he's welcome to quote me saying anything at all about every church goer and thus prove the above wrong but that's not going to happen.

Priests and nuns?? Vocations in Poland have been dropping at an alarming rate over the last twenty years. Inevitably you're going to end up having to bring in relgious from third world nations to fill the roles now occupied by Poles, just as Ireland has brought in Polish religious in recent years. There are presently around 20 Polish priests in Ireland who serve only native Irish congregations with no Polish members. So there's some food for thought.

It's not really of a much of a discovery you've made there but the situation in Poland is nowhere near as bad as in England, France or various 3rd world countries [amazing that the situation is as bad in England and France as it is in African countries, don't you think?].

In France for example you will often have one priest as the head of 4 or 5 different parishes [or more]. In Africa a priest will often have 20 parishes. In the UK many parishes are run by African, Irish or Polish priests.

In Poland on the other hand one parish/church will have 3/4/5 priests. Many Polish parishes in the UK have at least 2 priests running it.

But falling vocations are an issue Wielki. A plethora of available priests for each parish was the case in Ireland thirty years ago too. Vocations to the orders of nuns in Poland have dropped by two thirds in the last twenty years and by half for seminaries. That is a trend which will continue.


The Catholic religion is the fastest growing faith on the African continent. Don't know the situation regarding priests but if they are short of them, it's for different reasons. It would vary from country to country. For example some African countries are very politically unstable, in many others access to the kind of education needed to admit somebody to a seminary is limited, others face competition from other Christian denominations of the evangelical or more fundamentalist type, or indeed from Islam. But regarding England, England was never a Catholic country in the same sense as Ireland or Poland. It was predominantly Anglican and it's the figures regarding vocations to the Anglican church that would be more relevant. In the South-East of England they have no difficulty filling vacancies for parishes though they are struggling in the North-East. However that's not because of a shortage of ordained ministers but because apparently they don't want to work there!

@Atch
You are right that the Catholic Church in Africa is greatly on the rise higher than every other continent of the world
For those commenting about a priest handling over ten parishes in Africa are grossly myopic. You should say what you don't know. My Parish St Maria Goretti Catholic Church has 3 priest in charge and is not even a large parish, i don't need to educate you how many larger parishes have here. Come to our Seminary school to see the crowd that registers yearly to be admitted into the seminary school and will notice the crowd that are dropped yearly. You dare compare polish priest to Nigerian one's in terms of availability.

@Bieganski
Again don't say what you are ignorant of. Am enjoying my football in the Netherlands. Do you think every Nigerians are the same

That's almost certainly the direct result of the riches that were available for priests in the early 1990's. Many opportunists were "called" to the priesthood at that time, especially as it was by no means certain that Poland would ever catch up with the West.

The numbers entering the priesthood today are far less, because the easy pickings are no longer there.

Ah you mean in the same way that you pretend to know what you're talking about when discussing muslim integration despite never having lived amongst a muslim community in any significant number ? Or when you declare that the IRA were "Catholic terrorists" thereby drawing a parallel with Islamic terrorism.....still waiting for you to respond to that buddy :)

@Theop11

Where do you live? Poland? Africa? The Netherlands? Your posts made it difficult to tell.

@Wielkipolak
Am a Nigerian who plays football in the Netherlands. Am currently in Nigeria because we are on holiday till late July

@Theo so you play professional football? For who?

Why your interest in Polish girls in particular if you live in the Netherlands?

Lawdy Miss Clawdy. He explained that in the initial post. Firstly he's a practising Catholic, and a Charismatic one at that which is pretty full on let me tell you. There aren't too many Catholics in the Netherlands and those that there are, are likely to be closer to Anglican in their practices than to the Charismatic movement. Poland is still seen by much of the world as a Catholic country and a devout Catholic from elsewhere may think they're more likely to find a suitable wife there. I suppose one could ask though why Polish as opposed to Italian or Spanish or one of the other well known Catholic nations.

there is charismatic movement in Polish catholic church - it's called Odnowa w Duchu Świętym (Renewal in the Holy Spirit) - the problem would be the language barrier if he were to look for a spouse among women from that movement

What is that?

@delphiandomine

A sort of cross between Catholicism and Pentacostalism, with speaking in tongues and faith healing and other theatrics. Adherents tend to be rather zealous and gung-ho.

if you call faith healing theatrics I don't know what you don't call that

as for speaking in tongues - there is serious doubt if it is the Holy Spirit talking through these people in many many cases

and I am not Catholic, not even Christian in the most accepted meaning of the term

@gumishu

One of the most striking features of Pentacostalism/Charismaticism is their history of conducting religious services as a form of mass entertainment. Very different from other Protestant and Catholic groups. Their churches are essentially theaters, and their services are essentially stage performances. In fact, their early churches were often converted theater spaces.

Nothing disparaging meant by that. That's just their style of worship.