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What's the story with Nergal? (Singer from Behemoth)


smurf 39 | 1,982
19 Aug 2010  #1
What;s the deal with Nergal, the singer from Behemoth.

Got an email yersterday form a friend back home asking was it true that he's got leukemia,
It's terrible news if it's true, it's note really my type of music, although some of their songs are really good, but he seems like a decent enough lad.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
19 Aug 2010  #2
Nergal is a highly articulate guy who comes across very well in interviews. His English is superb! Yes, I think he has leukaemia :( :( People can bounce back from it but God has to be on their side. Singing what he does, I doubt he will be but fingers crossed.
OP smurf 39 | 1,982
19 Aug 2010  #3
I hope he makes a recovery, he doesn';t need god he's got Doda :-)
convex 20 | 3,978
19 Aug 2010  #4
From their site:

The following excerpt is a statement from BEHEMOTH's frontman and guitarist Nergal regarding his health and the canceling of upcoming tour dates.

"Dear All, I'd like to announce that Behemoth won't be able to tour for the foreseeable future. I don't wanna bore you with details here, but I'm sick and am receiving some serious medical treatment. It's gonna take another few weeks or more for full recovery, and so we have been forced to cancel all the Behemoth shows in August, planned dates in Russia and Baltic States for September and October, and our American tour in November.

facebook.com/notes/good-fight-music/behemoths-frontman-nergal-taken-ill-upcoming-shows-canceled/454810136666
welshguyinpola 23 | 463
19 Aug 2010  #6
If he dies, are we going to have some national mourning? Is he going to be deemed a hero? This time im prepared, Im gonna start stockin g up on the bread and milk already
convex 20 | 3,978
19 Aug 2010  #7
Who cares?

You're talking about one of the most popular Polish exports. A lot of people care.

Plus they put on a damn good show.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
19 Aug 2010  #8
Nergal is far more charismatic and articulate than most I see here. There is a Youtube interview of him being interviewed in Nottingham and his English is virtually flawless. I don't like his music but his self expression is clear.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,388
19 Aug 2010  #9
Nergal is far more charismatic and articulate than most I see here.

i spent some time listening to him talk about the band's image. i agree that he is charismatic and articulate.

he seems a very nice guy to me. i wish him well.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
19 Aug 2010  #10
One or two of his tracks are ok. It's just not my style. I can listen to guitar licks in symphonic black metal but not growling. I know them through my wife, she's into BM.

youtube.com/watch?v=R8LOKOgXqnU part 1 of 2

youtube.com/watch?v=DQ6vilfytZE&feature=related part 2 of 2

Impeccable for a non-native speaker of English :)
Karl1983 7 | 40
19 Aug 2010  #11
You're talking about one of the most popular Polish exports. A lot of people care.

Plus they put on a damn good show.

I'm sure he was popular when he ripped up a bible, I certainly don't have a high estimation, I wonder what would happen to someone in Iran if they ripped up the Koran! He should learn to respect other peoples beliefs and not insult religion.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
19 Aug 2010  #12
He's Polish, he took a stand. He did what was expected of him in terms of not sitting on the fence. He, like me, rejects the labelling culture that is prevalent here. Listen to part 1 of the interview I posted above. Tell me, Karl, how is it in any way realistic that 95% of a country can somehow agree with the dictates of one strand of Christianity at the expense of the logic of the other ones? Poland is just a sheep culture and is full of sticker people. I'm glad that Scotland has more of a balance between Protestants and Catholics although they don't think enough either. All smart Poles have told me the same. Latvians seem to have the idea too, they aren't overly conditioned.
Ironside 48 | 9,796
19 Aug 2010  #13
Poland is just a sheep culture

Most people being Catholic, Protestant or Atheist don't think just fallow whatever the they feel they should.
Cultural cultural diversity is a killer of society unity.

I-S(living the night life ..)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
19 Aug 2010  #14
My point is, belief and faith, IS. Don't condition people into thinking anything, give them the info and then let them choose. Unity is just the extension of the sticker culture. Where is the UNDERSTANDING? Listen to what Nergal said, he said it well :)

Stick out, believe in sth because you believe in it, not because sb tells you that you should!
Ironside 48 | 9,796
19 Aug 2010  #15
My point is that most people are sheep!
better obedient sheep then stray one..

I-S (all this sheep, I'm sleepy)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
19 Aug 2010  #16
You are a blind conformist then? How is being Orthodox or Protestant a major stray? They are still believers in Jesus Christ, the man who sacrificed himself for us all.
Ironside 48 | 9,796
19 Aug 2010  #17
You are a blind conformist then?

I'm realist thought!
I know that most people don't have a need or time or ability to make decisions or think for themselves - they just follow !

How is being Orthodox or Protestant a major stray?

oh ! its was just figure of speech :)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
19 Aug 2010  #18
So, you are prepared to kill to defend ideals which you were told to follow by bandwagon jumping? That's about the stretch of it!
Ironside 48 | 9,796
19 Aug 2010  #19
well, religion is not about killing but about living .....defend I may my way of life !
I don't follow I choose to follow:)

I-S (boyo )
Richfilth 6 | 415
20 Aug 2010  #20
He should learn to respect other peoples beliefs and not insult religion.

Black metal as a genre shows as much respect to religion as religion has shown to humanity. That is why religion is treated with utter contempt, and it's a sentiment I can agree with.

I've also found musicians from the metal genre (such as Varg Vikernes and Gaahl) to be far more articulate in expressing their thoughts than musicians who play, for example, jazz.

Behemoth (and genre-mates Vader) are one of the few Polish exports I'd heard of before I moved here, and I'd like to believe that Poles will show as much solidarity for Nergal as they've done for other Poles in tragic circumstances.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
20 Aug 2010  #21
Religion isn't about killing? Then go and tell that to those Islamists that kill in the name of Allah. Jihad is Holy War and it's a doctrine.

Anyway, Nergal rejected the badge culture. It's a shortcut to thinking.
convex 20 | 3,978
20 Aug 2010  #22
One or two of his tracks are ok. It's just not my style. I can listen to guitar licks in symphonic black metal but not growling. I know them through my wife, she's into BM.

their drummer is one of the best in the business

I'm sure he was popular when he ripped up a bible, I certainly don't have a high estimation

maybe he just didn't like the part about stoning your children.
OP smurf 39 | 1,982
20 Aug 2010  #23
FFS Mods, deleted my comment!

Could you lot get it together, really?
Can you stop allowing off-topic comments on this thread!
Seanus 15 | 19,706
20 Aug 2010  #24
Nergal philosophises a lot. He is candid in his commentary. I like the fact that he is an independent thinker and isn't afraid to state it as he sees it.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,679
20 Aug 2010  #25
I've also found musicians from the metal genre (such as Varg Vikernes and Gaahl) to be far more articulate in expressing their thoughts than musicians who play, for example, jazz.

Well, Varg was very articulate when he stuck that knife into the poor bugger!
zetigrek
20 Aug 2010  #26
Have you seen that yet:
...
It so stupid that I can't stop laugh... ;D

..............................................................
I hope Nergal will be fine.
OP smurf 39 | 1,982
20 Aug 2010  #27
Have you seen that yet:

hahahaha

brilliant
Ironside 48 | 9,796
21 Aug 2010  #28
Religion isn't about killing? Then go and tell that to those Islamists that kill in the name of Allah. Jihad is Holy War and it's a doctrine.

Well, I don't know enough about Isalmists to enter into serious discussion about Jihad:/
However Christian are not about killing!

Anyway, Nergal rejected the badge culture. It's a shortcut to thinking.

Nergal is opportunist at best and Satanist at worst .....
Do not fool yourself Sean, he do not prompt people to thinking, he suck them into his own philosophy, those who are his followers are just that - new badge bearers!

Most people just follow and that is that!
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Nergal philosophises a lot. He is candid in his commentary. I like the fact that he is an independent thinker and isn't afraid to state it as he sees it.

Doesn't mean he is right, and because you agree with him, its doesn't make him right

I-S (Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears!I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.The evil that men do lives after them.)

Take Adolf Hitler, a Catholic.

He was a freak not Catholic, are you Protestant because you were born one?no!
There plenty of those who just stick with a badge but not necessary are of any worth, there good sheep, black sheep and stray sheep:)

Plenty of Orthodox and Catholic killers there

Well, generatively and theoretically Christianity is not about killing but all those tribal cultures made some impact on practical side of things but don't blame religion if anything Orthodoxes and Catholic's do temper bad tendencies.

No, he encourages free thinking. He lets people draw their own conclusions and doesn't thrust it on them.

Most people are incapable of drawing their own conclusions and that is the crux of the matter. They are just suck into new badge bearers circle and they follow, they thing- hey is new and original and so clever (I'm so original and clever)- but in fact there are specific kind of sheep - suckers :)

I-S (sing for me my little bird, sing for me and you'll be free...for a while)
sascha 1 | 826
21 Aug 2010  #29
I don't know if you agree, but for me Christianity or better catholic church is one of the most aggressive ones.
They have still their missionaries running all over the world and conquering "lost or stranded souls"...and that did not start recently. ;-)
convex 20 | 3,978
21 Aug 2010  #30
name a religion which is not agressive. I know only one - hinduism (remember that buddism is not religion so it doesnt count).

The religions themselves aren't aggressive, their followers are. Catholics, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists...

Anyway, all true Christians would pray first and foremost that Adam makes a speedy recovery.


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