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Why are Poles always so miserable? Why do they never smile?

teflcat 5 | 1,032
28 Feb 2012 #421
Yehudim, ken.

maideleh, you'll set off the meshugoyim

Sabra'im and olim

I'm sure this is interesting to those who understand it. Could we please at least put English in brackets. I think it's PF policy.
28 Feb 2012 #422

Israeli Jews.


A Jew that immigrates to Israel.


Diasporic Jews.






pawian 168 | 11,070
28 Feb 2012 #424
No, but I did have a Greek for a neighbor with whom I use to talk quite often, he was just miserable as his pension check was constantly late, now he worries if he will be receiving one at all.

No wonder, with such statistics.....:

GDP - real growth rate:

-6% (2011 est.)
-4.4% (2010 est.)
-2.3% (2009 est.)

GDP - per capita (PPP):

$27,600 (2011 est.)
$29,100 (2010 est.)
$30,400 (2009 est.)
28 Feb 2012 #425
Ken means yes?

pawian 168 | 11,070
28 Feb 2012 #426
she must be crazy. Or drunk. Or did she want to have sex with me?

All three Pawian, all three.

Have sex with a crazy drunk middle aged smiling woman?

I never tried such a stunt. ]

Have you? What is it like?
29 Feb 2012 #427
Have sex with a crazy drunk middle aged smiling woman?

I'm two for three, man. No cougars for this guy.
modafinil - | 418
17 Mar 2012 #428
I noticed a middle-aged woman who was looking at me and smiling. I thought that she must be crazy. Or drunk. Or did she want to have sex with me?

I have wondered why you do so much smiling in your posts on this site - Whether you are crazy or drunk or some type of polosexual.
Nickidewbear 23 | 583
21 Jun 2012 #429

Ken means yes?

Ken (Yes)!

Nickidewbear: Sabra'im Israeli Jews.
Nickidewbear: olim A Jew that immigrates to Israel.
Nickidewbear: Galutim Diasporic Jews.
jasondmzk: maideleh, Girl.
jasondmzk: meshugoyim Crazies.
Nickidewbear: Yehudim Jews!

- Yes.
- That's the plural.
- Yes. The singular is "ol". It could well come from that making alijah (aliyah) is a micwah (mitzvah) per Jeremiah 8:1-6, a kind of (if you will)

- Yes.
- Oy! That could be a pun, too.
- Yes.

My dad and his parents, back to at least their great-great-grandparents on some sides were more interested in their Diasporan tongues.
Abdul Awal - | 1
27 Jul 2012 #430
o my GOd! the polish people do not smile? how it is possible. i have heard a lot of story but never know their manner. i love to hear about war-show

f stop 25 | 2,513
27 Jul 2012 #431
they smile, but mostly to people they know, rarely to strangers.
They don't want to appear insane.
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,098
28 Jul 2012 #432
o my GOd! the polish people do not smile? how it is possible.

We do smile but our mouth is upside down installed (:
pawian 168 | 11,070
29 Jul 2012 #433
When on holidays in the wilderness, I never smile to strangers. When I see them nearby, I get pissed off. I don`t say hello or other stupidities like that. I try to ignore them.

After all, I pay too much to get perfect isolation.
kondzior 10 | 973
30 Jul 2012 #434
Smiling in Poland actually means something, is is not just a mask you put on every day, without any emotion behind it... Mostly I am looking at you, Americans, but most of the West is infected as well, - the obligatory good mood in US can get very creapy: "How are you", "Great!" - even if I know that her dog just died this morning. It freaks me out. On the other hand, this "friendliness" can be shown only on the most superfical level, as apearently even hugging is verboten in Amerika:

UK Smile Police strikes!
Man arrested for not smiling during the olympic games

I cannot believe it....

Western enthusiastic extrovert mafia strikes again.

Mark Worsfold, 54, a former soldier and martial arts instructor, was arrested on 28 July for a breach of the peace shortly before the cyclists arrived in Redhouse Park, Leatherhead, where he had sat down on a wall to watch the race. Officers from Surrey police restrained and handcuffed him and took him to Reigate police station, saying his behaviour had "caused concern"

"It could have been done better. I was arrested for not smiling. I have Parkinson's," he said, adding that he realised the officers were working long hours and trying to control the event properly, but they had not, in his case, acted correctly. He said he did not want to make further comment until he received a response from Surrey police

Ugh, what kind of man takes this kind of authority abuse like this? Say what you will about the USA, the average American would sue the sh!t out of the police force and make a fuzz in a case like this. An arrest and two hours of questioning after the man clearly stated that he has facial paralysis and can't smile?

Should even matter if he has Parkinsons or not? You need to smile or the cops'll arrest you now? Great Britain indeed.

Generally, I don't smile unless I have a reason for it. That is meeting someone I like a lot or someone saying something funny or something like that. Damn, I'm starting to appreciate our ever-frowning supermarket cashiers.

Someone should register introverts as a race and start calling the fetishists of an enthusiasm racists.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
9 Sep 2013 #435
Polish people smile with their eyes.

I read this recenty:


Chinese & Japanese emoticons are like this: ^_^ (happy) and ;_; (sad) rather than this: :) and :( because they use the eyes rather than the mouth when reading someone's emotional state.

dorotaK - | 2
23 Sep 2013 #436
when you see somebody who doesn't smile it doesn't mean he or she is miserable but maybe he had a bad day or personal you can't judge someone by their face look:-)
24 Sep 2013 #437
There is some truth in it. Polish doesn't smile a lot in public places.

But I have another questions- Why lots of English have this idiotic, nervous giggle at things which are not remotely funny....It seems to me like nervous reaction to uncomfortable situation...
f stop 25 | 2,513
19 Oct 2013 #438
I found this advice for travelers, and I thought Poles are like that, too.
Don't compliment them on anything. They'll spend the next half hour bringing themselves down and assure you everything and everyone elsewhere is better."

Here is the rest of this thread, about what not to do when visiting. Hillarious!

Szczerbaty 4 | 49
20 Oct 2013 #439
I'd have to say this was something that drove me from Poland. In my eight years there, I met many wonderful people, but I just couldn't stand the coldness people/strangers have towards one another. Where we live in the States, there is such a positive supportive vibe between people.
Wulkan - | 3,251
20 Oct 2013 #440
which is fake smiling and then talking sh1t about you when you are not there and then smiling again when you are back.
EdwardC 1 | 10
20 Oct 2013 #441
While Poles are certainly more reticent than Americans I have not felt them to be particularly dour, especially when compared to other the other countries I have lived in (Azerbaijan and Ukraine).
f stop 25 | 2,513
20 Oct 2013 #442
I'm still not used to all the social fakery that goes on in the states.
For example, unless we're sharing something that really needs to be commented on, I am usually taken aback when strangers start talking to me.

I'm also uncomfortable around overly friendly waiters and the like.
I assume those are, partly, residuals of growing up in Poland.
This certainly does not mean that I'm miserable. I just prefer smiles reserved for the moments when one is actually happy to see someone, not a required norm when interacting with anybody and everybody.
Szczerbaty 4 | 49
21 Oct 2013 #443
That syrupy sickly smile certainly does exist in the States, and maybe I am being unfair because we are now in a small town as opposed to the big city we lived in in Poland. Life in any big city is somehow anonymous.

Some people in this forum need to drop a valium or two.
p3undone 8 | 1,135
21 Oct 2013 #444
Well people in small town USA tend to be much friendlier and it's not all fake smiles.
Wulkan - | 3,251
21 Oct 2013 #445
Some people in this forum need to drop a valium or two.

I think so too
10 Mar 2016 #446
No polish people do smile I disagree with you
Dutch27 1 | 5
11 Mar 2016 #447
Don't agree when there is a reason to smile they smile. Why should people smile all the time?
Polish people are very open and warm people when you start/try a conversation especialy when you try it in their language.
Dougpol1 32 | 3,296
11 Mar 2016 #448
Why should people smile all the time?

Mmmm Sorry, lived here 24 years now. And smiling is in short supply.

Baltic Poles especially are incredibly miserable on the morning commute. I usually take the dog to the office with me and he's the only living thing on the SKM that doesn't look as if a death sentence has just been passed on him.

It's the same story on the ride home as well.
johnny reb 21 | 3,901
11 Mar 2016 #449
Well people in small town USA tend to be much friendlier and it's not all fake smiles.

Two reasons for that;
One, most people in America are on some kind of designer drug happy pills (Anti anxiety, pain, anti depressants, booze ect.) and the other half are doing illegal drugs like weed, nose candy, smack.

Second reason is that is because when you smile and are positive you have all kinds of friends.
When you go around with attitude you have no friends and might eventually get shot.
The Polish people have come from generations of instilled fear and tend to mind their own business so are reluctant to offer a smile that may lead to personal conversation and don't have the jingle to visit the doctor or buy happy pills.
Lyzko 25 | 7,145
11 Mar 2016 #450
Northern and Northeastern Europeans particularly are often known for a bit of the dour in their demeanor, not exclusively the Poles BY ANY STRETCH:-)))!!

Yes, I also found on my first trip to Poland aka Szczecin in the mid-90's that it seemed the women especially, anywhere from eighteen to fifties, had such a pained look on their faces. Then again, this wasn't long after the collapse of Communism still fresh in everyone's mind, and so it wouldn't be fair to judge them on that basis now, would it?

The Germans were long known as sour pusses - in - residence throughout much of the continentLOL

In defense however of our Polish brethren, it must be said that we Yanks are all too frequently long on smiles, yet short on actions!

I'd frankly no end prefer a doughty dour European who gives straight answers to straight questions and doesn't bother with a lot of empty phrases such as "Yer the best!!!", "Hey, how are you today?" and such verbal diahhrea etc. ad nauseum....

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