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All Things Christmassy in Poland


jon357  73 | 23224
24 Dec 2022   #271
Nobody eats them

I like those. Good at Christmas. In my region we eat them with strong cheese.

Golden fish

Goldfish can indeed be lucky. Fun too; have you read Lace by Shirley Conran or seen the mini-series?
pawian  221 | 26279
24 Dec 2022   #272
The Polish are very superstitious and traditional.

Yes, apart from goldfish, they also keep other animals at Christmas to bring good luck:
e.g, llamas are very popular:

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pawian  221 | 26279
25 Dec 2022   #273
e.g, llamas are very popular:

As well as sheep, donkeys and goats. Sometimes camels.


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johnny reb  48 | 8005
25 Dec 2022   #274
Yes, apart from goldfish, they also keep other animals at Christmas to bring good luck: e.g, llamas are very popular:

Polish people do eat some strange things.
What do llama and camel taste like ?
I have never had any of either. :-)
Alien  25 | 6063
25 Dec 2022   #275
What do llama and camel taste like ?

Nobody in Poland eat llamas. I never did.
Joker  2 | 2396
25 Dec 2022   #276
I never did.

Nobody does. It's just more drivel from the attention seeking monkey.
jon357  73 | 23224
25 Dec 2022   #277
What do llama and camel taste like ?

Camel (I've had it many times but avoid it unless I have to eat it to be polite, since I like camels) tastes something between beef and lamb. A bit closer to beef. Not the best meat and usually eaten in places where they cook the meat as soon as it's killed, so it tends to be tough.

You can buy it in Poland at Makro, frozen.
pawian  221 | 26279
25 Dec 2022   #278
Nobody does.

Why did you stop lying?? You lied about Christmas before and now such a change??? :):):)
pawian  221 | 26279
30 Dec 2022   #279
Ukrainian kvass, Polish bread and Jewish carp at Christmas supper - the amazing unity of 3 nations.


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pawian  221 | 26279
30 Dec 2022   #280
3 nations.

Cultures, of course.
jon357  73 | 23224
31 Dec 2022   #281
Cultures

I prefer that term to nations.

The meal with the three different elements shows how complex Poland is and what a rich history (and present) it has.
pawian  221 | 26279
22 Dec 2024   #282
A Polish expat in Germany compares two ways of celebrating Christmas

onet.pl/styl-zycia/facet-xl/od-lat-swieta-spedza-w-niemczech-ale-gdzie-im-tam-do-polskiej-wigilii/757y908,30bc1058

- You can feel the holiday atmosphere in Germany, but it's not the same as I remember from Poland - says Adam. - There's no such hectic preparations, cleaning, cooking.
Adam had been to German friends for the holidays a few times. But there was no Christmas wafer, no carols. Modest.
"Germans, at least where I live, in Schleswig Holstein, don't have any traditional Christmas Eve dishes," he says. "They basically eat whatever they feel like eating. If someone feels like having a Christmas Eve wurst, which is a hot sausage, why not? Lent is not generally observed. No one here goes from house to house with a wafer, there are no carol singers."

pawian  221 | 26279
22 Dec 2024   #283
He once showed his friends a photo from Christmas Eve from years ago. Back in Poland. At a huge family table set as if for a wedding. A dozen or so people, many children, all laughing and happy.
They didn't want to believe that this is how the holidays are celebrated in Poland - says Adam. - They were most surprised when I told them about the twelve traditional Christmas Eve dishes. At our home, my mother always kept to this. And there had to be hay under the tablecloth. Dinner always started with borscht with dumplings. Homemade. My mother made them herself. None from the store. And then, of course, carp. I don't remember this dinner looking any different. Maybe the only thing that was different every year was the herring.

German holidays are also family-oriented, but they are not the same, he says.
- Christmas Eve itself is not celebrated as it is here - explains our interlocutor. - No one waits for the first star to sit down at the table. It is rather a more ceremonial dinner, and usually without religious symbols.

Joker  2 | 2396
22 Dec 2024   #284
Who are you talking too?

How is your the carp in the bathtub doing? Did you take your daily bath with it yet?
Poloniusz  5 | 971
22 Dec 2024   #285
A Polish expat

Don't you mean Polonia whom you have dismissed for years on here as not being Polish? :)

Adam had been to German friends for the holidays a few times. But there was no Christmas. "Germans don't have any traditional Christmas Eve dishes," he says.

Adam should have gone to the Christmas markets in Berlin, where they are at least serving up pierogi - a Christmas Eve Polish staple - but in Woke German style!

Berlin's traditional Christmas markets reflect city's growing diversity

"So it comes as no surprise that popular Christmas markets include a LGBTQ+ one offering rainbow pierogi and entertainment by drag queens, a Scandinavian market selling moose goulash and reindeer salami and a market tempting revelers with naughty gift ideas."

And in a new tradition they too recall having been the target of a Christmas Season massacre.

"On Dec. 19, 2016, an Islamist attacker plowed through a crowd of Christmas market-goers with a truck, killing 13 people and injuring dozens more in the German capital. The attacker was killed days later in a shootout in Italy."

apnews.com/article/germany-christmas-markets-diversity-lgbtq-international-berlin-b72a76844d045174b1ac42e2a4d34be8
Joker  2 | 2396
22 Dec 2024   #286
"So it comes as no surprise that popular Christmas markets include a LGBTQ+ one offering rainbow pierogi and entertainment by drag queens

Thats disgusting how they try and destroy religion and young childrens minds with this woke BS. And Pawian the pos supports these freaks.

I hope. Trump wipes out wokeness in America and it spreads to Europe.
Poloniusz  5 | 971
22 Dec 2024   #287
And Pawian the pos supports these freaks.

Yes, he does. I can't help but think he's been trawling the internet for days, feverishly searching for articles like the one he posted about the Pole living in Germany. And, sure enough, his search ended in hitting pay dirt! It's portrayed as a loss of culture and tradition, but since it's happening in a European country and involves a native tradition, you know he's relishing it.

Hanukkah starts on December 25th, so don't be surprised when he starts posting endless articles, gushing with sentimentality, celebrating how Jewish traditions are not just unchanging but thriving.

How is your the carp in the bathtub doing? Did you take your daily bath with it yet?

LOL!
pawian  221 | 26279
22 Dec 2024   #288
Polonia whom you have dismissed for years on here

I only dismiss American Polonia whose classic specimen are you or Joker. You are you-know-what in my opinion. :):):)

Who are you talking too?

Look Who`s Talking Two!!!! hahaha buhahaha

feverishly

Why feverishly?? Full relaxation on my part when I know you will be vexed on the brink of losing consciousness. hahaha buhahaha.
OP Atch  24 | 4379
22 Dec 2024   #289
where I live, in Schleswig Holstein

But that's the point really. It's a largely Protestant tradition in that area and not an Anglican one, but rather 'low church'. Their observances are always low key and close to downright miserable ;) For God's sake, look at the Puritans who banned the celebrating of Christmas.
pawian  221 | 26279
22 Dec 2024   #290
look at the Puritans who banned the celebrating of Christmas.

What??? Now I know why none of my family has ever been Puritan in their lives. :):):)
OP Atch  24 | 4379
22 Dec 2024   #291
They did indeed because it had no basis in Scripture. Nothing in the Bible said that Jesus was born on 25th December etc. etc. and in England anyway Christmas celebrations were too closely tied to the old Pagan Yule. All those drunken revels didn't go down too well in the Cromwell camp. Mind you the Scottish Presbyterians were just as bad. They banned it too. There's a reason they take salt and not sugar in their porridge up there :)
pawian  221 | 26279
22 Dec 2024   #292
they take salt and not sugar in their porridge up there :)

And vinegar in French fries !!!!
Or vinegar in chips!!!

:):):)
OP Atch  24 | 4379
22 Dec 2024   #293
Ah well now, that's different. There's nothing to compare with salt and vinegar on your chips and that's universal throughout the UK and Ireland.

However, you might be interested to know that during Cromwell's so-called Protectorate, soldiers used to patrol the streets on Christmas Day, literally sniffing out any Christmas food being prepared which they then seized. They probably stuffed themselves silly on it later on back in the barracks.
pawian  221 | 26279
22 Dec 2024   #294
chips

I meant chips as crisps.
For chips I said French fries.
OP Atch  24 | 4379
22 Dec 2024   #295
French fries are not the same thing though. However, as it's Christmas we shan't quibble. I've never liked salt and vinegar crisps even though they were invented in Ireland and my usual mantra is everything Irish is better ;) It has to be cheese and onion for me. which, coincidentally were also invented by Tayto, Ireland!
pawian  221 | 26279
22 Dec 2024   #296
even though they were invented in Ireland

Amasing!!!! :):):)

we shan't quibble

Absolutely! :):):)

French fries are not the same thing

Now I am at little odds. :):):
mafketis  38 | 11113
22 Dec 2024   #297
it had no basis in Scripture

IIRC scripture suggests a later summer/early autumn birth.... early in the US (before it was the US) it wasn't celebrated either for the same reason and only really became a holiday much later.

The European holliday seems to be a combination of Roman Saturnalia, Northern Yule and Slavic Koljada (maybe another paganfest or two).

I'm not complaining. I'm not a Christian* but I recognize that a great strength of Christianity is its protean nature that mixes and combines with other practices which no other world religion comes close to matching.

*I have no religious faith but I sometimes describe myself as a cultural protestant...
pawian  221 | 26279
1 day ago   #298
wafer sharing took place

I found such curious info in the Guide of Culinary Art:

In old Poland, wafers were beautifully painted.

Those were special wafers, not for sharing but to hang on the tree as decoration. Some wafers were even gilt.

Wafers after dyeing the flour with natural pigments gain different colour than white.

. The wafers were not only white, but also colored. The colored ones were intended for animals, mainly cattle. After the Christmas Eve supper, the housewife would collect the leftovers, add such a wafer to them and take it to the stable. It was believed that cows treated to it would be healthier and give more milk. It also meant that people wanted peace with all of creation.


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pawian  221 | 26279
1 day ago   #299
Those crispsy rolls are called croquettes from French.
Polish fave when stuffed with minced meat all year round but on Christmas Eve they must be filled with mushroom/cabbage stuffing.

Here, only mushroom but also cheese instead of cabbage. The first time I had such and I must say the impression was very positive. Crispy outside and melting inside.


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OP Atch  24 | 4379
1 day ago   #300
special wafers, not for sharing but to hang on the tree as decoration. Some wafers were even gilt.

That would be a nice tradition to revive.


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