3 reasons why you hate Poland.

you got it
yes, actually that is the most aggravating thing about poles
it makes me want to kill them with my bare hands (sometimes)


they are too fat. they would fall off

Polish girls too fat?Reality distortion?

I like it when Brits are criticizing Poles for having strong opinions while themselves believing that 'whatever people want to do should not be criticized', which is no opinion at all!!!

And stubbornness? It's in our genes. We are today an independent country thanks to that.

Not my experience.


I have never had a polish person be rude to me and I have been visiting often for 4 years.

What I hate about Poland is -

1) How hard the language is to speak.

2) How hard it is to understand polish people when they speak.

3) How far away Poland is from where I work.


It was an American who posted

Bzibzioh


Couldn't agree more. Besides, criticizing isn't always negative; it leads to new points of view. Criticism is just a criticism. Some agree with it, some don't. Some will shout, some will be quiet. It's just our choice; we can find bad sides or we can try to look at matters objectively. However it will be often subjective in some way.

Ya know, staying in Poland isn't obligatory. Find yourself a country where they are rude to foreigners, all businessmen are honest, rudeness and thievery is not heard of, peoples have no strong opinions about anything and judgmental mothers-in-law are ... outlawed. And let me know where this wonderland is. Until then you are just ridiculous.

Nice :)

Its michael jacksons place isn,t it...i believe its up for sale if you have few zloty in the bank..

It is obvious Polish people might take offense to this thread, but the jojo poster never said he didn't love Poland. He simply followed the discussion of naming bad things in Poland. Every country has 'em - this thread is to post Polish ones. So get off his back...

Poland is developing fast economically but it is still morally, ethically and culturally corrupt in many ways.

As are many countries.

Deal with it

Why do you imagine that Poles give a hoot about the opinion of another no-name ignorant on their history and attitudes?

well said


No one said they do, but it seems you cared enough to respond.

1 I hate the inferiority complex some poles exhibit to the point that any criticism of anything polish is met with rabid denial and accusations that where the critic comes from is even worse

2 I hate the arrogance that some poles exhibit, behaving as though they are more important than everyone else and need not wait in a queue or even exhibit generally good manners

3 I hate the dickhead Pole (or self-appointed Polish defender) that will respond to this trying to tell me it's either a) my fault or b) excuse these two types of pathetic behaviour

superbia, avaritia, luxuria, invidia, gula, ira, acedia, Polonia

[Foreigner4]

How dare you criticise our inability to accept criticism! You are a Pole-hating, nazi,
commie, homosexual, atheist Jew! Actually, for your information, we take criticism quite well!

Anyway, who cares about your completely inferior and unimportant opinion?
You're not even Polish, so anything you may say about Poland is of no value
at all.

It is sad that you see Poles that way, but I'd like to point out that it's a) completely
your fault that you perceive Poles that way b) the sporadic incidence of the behaviour
types you mentioned is perfectly natural and understandable.

Oh, I forgot about that bit...


To sum things up, my advice for you would be to fcuk off and die a terrible death.

Was I Polish enough, or should I polish my polishness some more? :-)


miserere mei Domine quoniam infirmus sum.... mea culpa... mea culpa... mea maxima culpa

*strikes his chest with his fist three times*


Hey! That's not a sin!

I have to disagree, Torqy my friend. Trust me, Poles don't accept criticism that well. Rarely will they see it as constructive, more as an attack on their character. I'm just being fair here, I've seen it umpteen times. Other nations don't fare much better tbh.

I hope you were joking when you said that, by virtue of being a foreigner, his opinion is of no value at all. It is us who can tell you how things are in many other places and give you a benchmark/yardstick from which to form opinions. When defensive mechanisms are inbuilt, it's hard to accept even the smallest 'dig'.

I know you and know your calculated sarcasm so no worries :)

Well said :)


Absolutely. That's why I like reading the opinions of foreigners on PF even if they
are sometimes a little bit exaggerated ;)

It takes more energy to frown than it does to smile so why frown? Old biddies in Scotland are much the same as here, dour-faced moaners. We are champions at it! Still, there is competition all around the world. The Ruskies have many miserable old feckers, as do most Asian countries and, well, just about anywhere.

The only thing that really gets my goat here is the lack of ability to say thank you when sb has held the door open for you although I've been reliably informed that this doesn't extend to all of Poland.

1) Poles are FAKE to foreigners. They are only nice and hospitable because they want to profit from you, they are not genuinely kind. And plus, they treat foreigners better than their own because if you're from another country, then you must be "better." Foreigner to them equals dollars or euros.

God, how sad it is to hear that....I really, really like British literature, culture, music, architecture. I have been to Gb so many times and it always was expensive to me, I never did it for money, but becouse it was such fun and I could always learn something new. What's more I even decided to study English literature and culture. Now I hear that 'Im not only fake, money-oriented but naturally deceitful as well - naturally- that means it's in my genes. That is - no matter how much you learn, how much you know about Britain, how much different books you have read you are always a fake Pole to us. Sad, really sad.

The same could be said for any country doing business. The Japanese are some of the worst for that, MUCH worse than the Poles. They perform all their little airs and graces but squeeze you in a bearhug at the negotiating table. They stick to their guns and almost disorient the other side.

Little Frog, you mean it was always dear to you :) If people could be banned for generalising, there'd be very few left on the forum.

I have to agree with that to some extent. It all depends on the person's personal
culture and generally there's no reason to complain about the manners of Polish
intelligentsia.

Unfortunately, our intelligentsia was almost completely destroyed during the partitions,
uprisings and the world wars (most notably the WW2) and that social class was never
really rebuilt. At the moment Poland is in 98% a peasant country and in 98% of the
cases you are dealing with the peasant culture and manners. 98% of our so-called
"elites": the businessmen, politicians, teachers etc. etc. are people with peasant
background and it is oh-so-visible in their manners, the use of Polish language
(the accent, vocabulary and so on) and their general hierarchy of values.

It's almost like they expect you to hold the door open for them. I take great delight in holding it open, all the while they are getting closer, and then I let go, LOL. I'm not here to make friends with old peasants and it's invariably them that I hold the door open for.

Lets face it, that is a dick thing to do.

It's the trams I hate. Getting on at a place like Hala Targowa is a nightmare. You are in competition with about 50 Old babka's to see who can barge who out of the way while attempting to secure a seat or at least a place to stand. Those babka's charge right through you as if not getting a seat on a crowded bus is the worst thing that can happen. What really gets my goat is that once they are on the tram, they start the whole "I'm old and dying" crap.

In the beginning I would always offer my seat to them, but after time I would ignore them out of my deep hatred for all babka's!

I hope you're not seriously in my #3 category

So very, very true......

Torq, you are way too well educated and informed to be Polish or American for that matter.
You must be a British born Pole, educated in the UK.
They key give away is not the general knowledge level, rather that fact you have a self depreciating sense of humour, which is unheard of in Poland.

Regarding my original point about, Poles having children at a very young age. My own opinion (please note), is that most people aren't adults till they reach the age of 25 or 26. Therefore Poland is a country populated by children having more children and run by great-grandparents and grandparents.

How they hell can a young 20 year old possibly rear, educate and develop a child if they themselves haven't had a chance to mature themselves.

The second point to spin off this, are the increasing number of divorces which will continue to increase with time, as economic pressures on the family unit tighten.

Those people who have a chance to hold their horses, develop themselves, prepare themselves stand a much greater chance of raising well adjusted offspring.
Thats my 5 cents for what it is worth.

Actually you use more muscles to smile than frown, maybe thats why us Scots are a nation of moaners ;)

Quite probably, Davie. SeanBM, sorry but I've only done that twice and I don't make a habit out of it. Besides, it gets the old trouts back.

to those who hate Poland:

"I judged the Poles by their enemies. And I found it was an almost unfailing truth that their enemies were the enemies of magnanimity and manhood. If a man loved slavery, if he loved usury, if he loved terrorism and all the trampled mire of materialistic politics, I have always found that he added to these affections the passion of a hatred of Poland. She could be judged in the light of that hatred; and the judgment has proved to be right."

Gilbert Keith Chesterton, 1922

We're in the 21st century now ;) ;)

Erm... you probably meant it as a compliment, so thank you, Kalop :)

However, I'm neither too well educated (merely a simple electronics engineer)
nor too well informed (which you may find out yourself by browsing most of my
posts on this forum).


I was born, raised and educated in Poland - a great country with glorious
history and a unique Latin/Slavic civilization and culture.
I was lucky enough to be born in a family of old intelligentsia traditions
and strong patriotic ethos and that probably gives me an edge over those
of my compatriots who didn't have similar background and upbringing.

I do not consider my country (despite the fact that we suffered enormous
losses in the course of history) to be in any way inferior to Great Britain
if that's what you were subtly suggesting, my friend.

The spirit of Great Poland survives and one day we will turn this peasant society
into a glorious nation once again. It will take time, a lot of time, and it will surely
take a whole lot of effort but we'll get there one day...

... Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła! :-)