Live-in maids in Poland?

Is this unheard of in Poland?

Anyone have experience with live-in maids? Would be interested in knowing the costs.

In large cities like Warsaw, they are pretty common among rich families. I'd bet most of them are not Polish though (Ukrainian ladies may dominate due to their low cost and still good work skills).

The joke here in the States is that the Poles are even too expensive for the Russians....who are out (and under-)bid by the Hindus for the same job(s)!

LOL

Does anyone know the cost for a temporary live in Ukrainian maid for her services in Poland ?
A friend of mine wants to know. :-)

So Hindus or Russians are cheaper?

I guess everything is common among rich families. But in average Polish family it's not common. It used to be that Polish kids did a lot of chores at home, but now parents don't let them work hard because them digital snowflakes are too fragile (and lazy), so they do it themselves. Not sure if it's going to benefit the parents and the society though.

I've come across this a few times, however in Warsaw, most people don't have the space in apartments. Though there are new build apartments that have staff accommodation and some of the newer houses in the suburb where I live have dedicated staff accommodation and sometimes security lodges.

Some of the Warsaw elite decamp to Sopot for the whole summer, often renting a separate flat for the nanny and the kids.


Most of those are over 50.


I think so too. It's storing up problems for the future. After capitalism started to intrude into Poland, a whole generation of kids grew up who are exceptionally materialistic and transactional. There needs to be far more group activities, far more activities where there's no profit involvement.

We've even had people on PF pushing for-profit summer camps when many decent voluntary ones exist.

it definitely won't (oh sorry, I stated the obvious - and well I stated what you actually implied)

It's the unfortunate result of a rapid series of changes to society, rather than the gradual changes that happened in the west. Poland pretty much accelerated forwards 70 years in the space of 10 or 15.

That's my feeling too.

I used to know a lady who worked at a European country's embassy and her teenage son had been to school in half a dozen countries in his life. He said that the kids at school (a well known 'international' school' in south east Warsaw) were the most materialistic he'd ever seen, so much talk about what their parents own or are buying or can afford.

The change is fast, and I'm sometimes shocked at what friends spend in their kids and grandkids. Some of them are 'new rich' but all of them cultured. I don't mean spending on education (a friend's grand daughter just got a first from somewhere well-known in London which must have cost a small fortune in total) since there's justification for that, but on housing, cars, etc. All those bars in 'Chinatown' run by 20-somethings and a few of the more hipstery businesses in Stara Praga etc were all paid for by people's parents. Plus the culture of inheriting flats from granny.

It's a generation/demographic that are probably going to get a very big shock indeed during the next major economic downturn.

I actually found the opposite. The kids showing off the brands, not being able to have a phone other than IPhone, having a mountin of presents expected All that I saw here in UK

I suppose it depends on the demographics where people are. I'd say that the thing you've noticed in the U.K. (and I've seen it too) is more about disposable income among the proletariat. Spend it all and don't save.

Certainly, the Warsaw bourgeoisie are shockingly materialistic nowadays, and accumulating wealth isn't seen as shameful.

A few decades ago I remember a billboard in the U.K. and a billboard in PL that wouldn't work in the other country. The one in the U.K. was for IKEA and said "Sont be so British". If on in PL said "Don't be so Polish" it would have been a scandal. The one in Poland said "Buy our plastic roofing material because one day you will have grandchildren". In the U.K. people would say "what has my house got to do with my grandchildren; they can work hard and buy their own bloody houses".