Who's Leaving Poland?

Ironside wrote:


geeze, i even avoided the question and graciously said i wasn't going to answer it for the sake of this thread, yet the personal attacks still come out.

nonetheless, let's keep this thread going. many people yet to answer.

Sorry, it just as I see you, but its only the Internet and I could be 100% wrong, so don't let it spoil your day.

Although, you don't like Poland and that is the fact!

I-S(I guess offices(bureaucracy) in Poland begs for a closure)

Don't like certain aspects. It's not black and white.

I'm staying in Poland for the foreseeable future - job, properties, extended family, teenage kids have another few years in (Polish?) education.

Hell, I even mowed a meadow this morning - before the rains come! I never did that in England!!

It's obvious as to why - he isn't educated enough to get a university teaching job (or even a school teaching job), so he's stuck in the private sector. He doesn't earn enough to open his own school, so he's effectively going nowhere in life here.

Certainly explains all the bitterness and anger towards the country - he has nothing to offer it, so he's condemned to a mundane existence where he eats nothing but Polish food every day.

(life must be really tough if he can't eat at Marche!)

4:2 Humans - it doesn't look good for the elven team at the moment :)

How many people have already left? dnz comes to mind..

Also wonder how many people with no family ties decide to stay in Poland...a la wildrover

I've only been here a year but I have no particular reason to go back to the UK even though I can go back and forth painlessly.

So, staying.

Humans - Elves 5:2

Slowly, but firmly, my theory is being confirmed that Poland is populated mainly by humans
and that elves, although you get a one or two of them every now and again, are very rarely
seen and largely mythical creatures ;);)


Harry is probably staying too - although I wouldn't celebrate that particular case of
a foreigner settling down in Poland :-/

I, I wish to go...

You don't count - it's about foreigners, either staying in Poland or leaving.

But then again...you are asking people that are currently residing in Poland. How many do you know (from here) that have left already?

None.

As I said, for me personally, foreigners leaving Poland are mythical creatures like elves
or dragons - I've heard of them, but never met any in real life.

I suspect there's a lot of people like him - willing to move anywhere in the world for the right job at the right price. Poland's just a stepping stone really for them.

you remind me of the knight in that Monty Python movie....the one that keeps egging on the other knight and eventually gets his arms and legs chopped off yet keeps on yapping.....

I'll just provide the link to the last good shalacking i gave you for I simply don't have the energy to respond to your dumb ass anymore:

https://polishforums.com/food/poland-people-use-ice-45161/4/

see post #100.

after reading the above link and my post, we can all clearly see who has "nothing to offer Poland".

oh, and for what it's worth.....OFF TOPIC, Mikey. go slander someone else.

I'm half elf half human. I.e worked in Poland for the best part of four years but came home 3 weekends out of 4. Now entirely out of Poland but have a slice of Poland at home anyways. Four out of the five people who worked with me out there who decided to stay are still there four years later.

I'm not the one eating Polish food everyday because I can't afford to eat at restaurants ;)

So..what's it like going nowhere in life?

I have the same thing but only with jobs: I can't stand to work for the same company for longer than 2-3 years. I get bored and annoyed so I have to move on to the next challenge.

and companies still hire you even though they see on your resume that in a year or two you'll get "bored" with them...?

Szarlotka, most certainly an elf.

+1 for the elf count.

Delphiandomine wrote:


now you've stooped to an all-time low. making fun of people and judging them based on their income level.

If I, in fact, were someone who couldn't afford to eat in restuarants, I'd be offended. Instead, all I can do is just shake my head at a desperate kid trying to safe face, while in the process, ends up offending millions of people in this country, including some people on this forum.

i can't wait to read your next post. just this time, try not to be so offensive. it's embarrassing to read.

Some of us are just that effective :) But if you're doing project based work, it's pretty normal. After 10 years of working somewhere, if you're not running things...well...


dnz gave his maluch away and moved...

Torq, question from the masses here... What do you think are the main reasons that foreigners immigrate to Poland long term? Family ties/significant other is probably high on that list. Just curious.

Yep. With my work experience I can pick and chose as I please.


Exactly.

good for you...

I know :)

As far as immigrants from 3rd world countries are concerned, the matter is simple, so I guess
you're asking about immigrants from countries which have stronger economies than Poland.

Well, I guess some of them (not all of them, mind you) would not be able to have similar
income and quality of life at home as they have in Poland, working as native-speaking
English teachers for example. Some of them are highly qualified specialists that are needed
in Poland at the moment and, consequently, earn enough not to think about leaving.
Some of them just fell in love with the country and people and decided to stay. In some
cases, as you said, it's family ties that keep them here. There can be many reasons, and
my personal observations tell me that the overwhelming majority of them are here to stay
(which is definitely a good thing for Poland.)

Indeed - any good teacher with half a brain can easily have a much higher standard of living here than in the UK. Of course, the good times won't last forever, but for now - anyone who is smart enough to save money and then reinvest it are the ones succeeding here.

Equally so, there are teachers who work all year, only to blow their savings on flying back home for the summer/winter. They tend to be bitter, resorting to posting anonymously on internet forums to complain about the country - yet their posts betray exactly what's wrong with them - they have a rubbish standard of living in Poland (because of the need to save to go home in summer) and see other expats and Poles enjoying a much better life.


Even in my case - I can drive from Poznan to the Czech Republic in about 4.5 hours maximum. Could I do that in the UK? Hell no.


Ties back in with what I said above about certain teachers - they aren't qualified enough to succeed in Poland (because ESL teaching, long term, requires investment in qualifications, money that they spend elsewhere) in terms of getting a good, stable job. But the ones that do invest in themselves are the ones doing well - and these are the ones not eating Polish food every day!


You said, clear as day, that you eat Polish food everyday and that ethnic restaurants are too expensive. Anyway, you already posted all over Dave's ESL that you can't afford to even own a car here, so it's all coming rather clear, isn't it?

Delphiandomine wrote:


i don't eat at ethnic restaurants because i refuse to over-pay for what is usually shite food.

Delphiandomine wrote:


I choose not to own a car in order to maintain a certain standard of living in Poland. Must be nice living rent free Delph, I'd have a car too.

just stop writing. honestly.

Talk about tunnel vision, so poor British English teachers are poor because they holiday to Britian once a year? Do you have any idea how silly that sounds.

Come on WB, I wasn't talking about European teachers!

Me. I have no Polish roots but wanted to experience living and working in Europe. Came here three years ago, liked it, and I'm staying.