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Has feminism and lesbianism progressed in Poland?


Atch 22 | 4,127
21 Feb 2022 #391
Oh yeah, your lot literally started a second armed front against Britain:

Whilst simultaneously serving in the British army and continuing to volunteer to do so. Conscription was never introduced in Ireland. I'm wondering why Poland fighting for independence is glorious in your eyes, but Ireland shouldn't??

I notice you neglected to mention that Irish nationalist Francis Ledwidge served in the British army during World War I and in fact was killed in action.

Ireland has a far more complex history than you're capable of understanding and its unwise to lecture me about Ireland as I'm far more knowledgeable and educated about it than you are, or are likely to be.

there was initial resistance to hiring women for what was seen as 'men's work',

Resistance by whom? By men actually. You really need to read a few decent history books.

Mabel Beadsworth

Is that the best you can do?? Now have you ever heard of Edith Cavell?

And do bear in mind that WWI affected my own family directly. It's not just a couple of lines on a website or a quick Google search for me. My family are part of that history, both in the British army and in the republican movement. So I have both the academic knowledge of it and the personal knowledge passed down through my family. The war devastated families and broke hearts that were never whole again.
dupajednafuku
21 Feb 2022 #392
Its funny how twister Polish feminism is. its tied to nationalis like all those people are (racists nationalists and annbe white priders or white americans who they worship but hate them and dont even consider them or slavs as anglo saxon whites). Everything you said your stupid female quotes has Polki or Polska or some aspect of Pollacks and Pollackistan in it not females as a whole.

Nobody in the west or usa cares about poland or its female lying movement. they just use you to sell you weapons or as a launchpad.
pawian 223 | 24,390
21 Feb 2022 #393
You really need to read a few decent history books.

It is funny how Boozoniusz so enthusiastically exposes himself with this ignorance. He gets his az kicked from all sides but he stubbornly keeps selling his nutty lies. Amazing.

I have an idea - it isn`t a guy in fact, but a female, probably a feminist, whose goal is to discredit conservative males. That is why she is writing such crazy stuff here but at the same time she intentionally allows us to debunk it so easily.

Hey, Lady who plays this game under Boozoniusz, you are doing a good job now. And I can only say you can always count on me. hahahaha



jon357 74 | 22,054
21 Feb 2022 #394
Edith Cavel

A remarkable person. And her story is mirrored in WW2 by a number of very brave Polish women.

a female, probably a feminist, whose goal is to discredit conservative males

Probably. Unless he really is that durny.
Novichok 4 | 7,964
21 Feb 2022 #395
whose goal is to discredit conservative males.

Hey, genius, pay attention now...Everything worth having today was invented and created by "conservative men". Female contribution is nearly perfect zero. Go to any hospital and find one life-saving piece of equipment that was invented by a woman. The same with cars, trains, ships, planes, TVs, computers, software,...

OK, I was wrong. Women made their contribution...by nagging their men that it will not work and that they should cut the grass and take the garbage out.

Now comes a moronic joke from the forum clown...10, 9, 8,...

correction. It should have been "conservative white men" and "Almost everything..."
Strzelec35 34 | 904
21 Feb 2022 #396
what makes no sense to me is how women particular in old school or traditional societies like Poland or ones influences by either religion or tradition claim they should take top positions in companies or earn as much as en but still only date up or look for even less percentage of men to satisfy them who own more money assets or businesses then them. and still expect men to be the bread bringer and take the out pay for dates buy expensive wedding rings etc. so why should society pay them as much or more if they expect men to spend all the money?
Alien 20 | 4,979
21 Feb 2022 #397
The first driver of the car was Bertha Benz. She was the first driver ever.
Novichok 4 | 7,964
21 Feb 2022 #398
Is this in reference to my post? If so, how?
Atch 22 | 4,127
22 Feb 2022 #399
Go to any hospital and find one life-saving piece of equipment that was invented by a woman.

Women were saving lives in their millions long before there was any equipment to do so. Consider the front at WWI, you, who have never been near a battlefield, and bow you head in shame at denigrating the courage and character of those women who volunteered to care for the wounded and dying. Here's a nice extract from one of the official war diaries of the time:

There were piles upon piles of exhausted men, covering every inch of available hospital space. Here the severely injured lay, in excruciating pain, hovering between life and death-some praying for the latter. Their bodies viciously mutilated, blasted apart by relentless artillery and machine gun fire, their uniforms in shreds, their limbs blown away or shattered to pieces, they gazed at nurses with soulless, desolate eyes. Amidst an ever extending carpet of blood and khaki, nursing sisters, V.A.D.s and orderlies attended to their vast array of patients. The place resembled a living hell. Henceforth there seemed to be no distinction between night duty and day duty. Everyone just worked to the point of exhaustion.

Everything worth having today was invented and created by "conservative men".

Actually most of those men weren't conservative. They were exactly the opposite. They were innovators and visionaries of their time. There were a number of women scientists and mathematicians which is remarkable considering that they were mostly denied access to even basic education., let alone higher studies. They don't get the same publicity as men but they were there. They were generally very respected by their male counterparts. Real men don't hate and fear women :)

computers, software,...

Ada Lovelace.
Paulina 16 | 4,370
22 Feb 2022 #400
Everything worth having today was invented and created by "conservative men".

Firstly, that's not true:

bluehost.com/blog/6-great-women-inventors-who-have-made-life-easier-for-you/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=genericsearch&gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5tv-n_6S9gIVz4myCh2S3wPYEAAYASAAEgJm5_D_BwE

Secondly, of course all kinds of inventions, art, history even, etc. were made mainly by men in the past. As Atch already wrote, women in the past were denied even the most basic education, independence and all kinds of rights (that's the case even nowadays in some parts of the world), so how and what were they supposed to "invent"? lol I'm guessing that all they could "invent" was the traditional food that we enjoy to this day, since it was women who were mainly doing the cooking. And probably many herbal remedies.

So, Novichok, what's your point exactly? Because all you're showing is in what crappy situation women were in the past (and still are in some parts of the world). It just shows that in the past (and still nowadays in some parts of the world) to men women were basically subhumans.

OK, I was wrong. Women made their contribution...by nagging their men that it will not work

Yes, you were wrong. Btw, you seem to forget that usually behind every of those "great men" stood their wife, who was taking care of him, his kids and the household, so he could invent and create all he wanted in peace. Some wives were doing even more than that. I would suggest you to get acquainted with the plight of Tolstoy's wife, for example.

bow you head in shame at denigrating the courage and character of those women who volunteered to care for the wounded and dying

Novichok and others like him have no shame. That's the problem.

Real men don't hate and fear women :)

Exactly :)

Atch, great post, btw :) 👏
mafketis 37 | 10,899
22 Feb 2022 #401
Novichok and others like him have no shame

The problem isn't the lack of shame (or basic human decency) but the fact that he regards this as a great thing.
Paulina 16 | 4,370
22 Feb 2022 #402
@Novichok, in case you are too lazy or unwilling to search for it by yourself:

rbth.com/arts/2014/01/22/the_women_behind_great_russian_writers_32453

theguardian.com/books/2009/jun/02/sofia-tolstoy-diaries
Poloniusz 4 | 712
22 Feb 2022 #403
Conscription was never introduced in Ireland.

You are wrong as usual about your own history.

"A conscription law was passed but was never put in effect; no one in Ireland was drafted into the British Army. The proposal and backlash galvanised support for political parties which advocated Irish separatism and influenced events in the lead-up to the Irish War of Independence."

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_Crisis_of_1918

And it never applied to women anyway.

And do bear in mind that WWI affected my own family directly.

Yes, I'm sure it did.


Paulina 16 | 4,370
22 Feb 2022 #404
And for Poloniusz:

m.independent.ie/life/world-war-1/women-at-war-irelands-forgotten-heroines-of-the-era-30249241.html

Nurses

poster
Poloniusz 4 | 712
22 Feb 2022 #405
women-at-war-irelands-forgotten-heroines-of-the-era

How far away were they from the raging battle front?

To be sure it was miles and miles and miles away.

Proof? None of them are wearing any protective combat gear.

Heck, some of them aren't even wearing any hair or face coverings.

But that is to be expected.

Women are always more concerned about being the main, unobstructed subject of such photos.

Demonstrating even basic and proper hospital hygiene in order to ensure the health, safety and recovery of the male combat patient never even crossed their minds.
Atch 22 | 4,127
22 Feb 2022 #406
You are wrong as usual about your own history.

You've just contradicted yourself by posting a link stating that no one in Ireland was drafted into the British Army ie conscription was never introduced, just as I said.

There's absolutely nothing you can tell me about Irish history and unlike you I don't need to Google it. I spent years actually studying it from something called books and absorbing it and even meeting people who were directly involved in it.

Proof? None of them are wearing any protective combat gear.

You really are obtuse aren't you?

Demonstrating proper hospital hygiene

Whilst you continue to demonstrate extraordinary levels of ignorance.

Yes, I'm sure it did.

What exactly is your point there?

You're a very peculiar character indeed. You obviously absolutely hate women. Very strange. However that's no excuse for not educating yourself properly.
Paulina 16 | 4,370
22 Feb 2022 #407
Wow, Poloniusz, you are truly a human scum.

How far away were they from the raging battle front?

As far as they were sent to be.

To be sure it was miles and miles and miles away.

A field hospital is supposed to be located in some safe distance from the frontline, genius.

Demonstrating even basic and proper hospital hygiene in order to ensure the health, safety and recovery of the male combat patient

You are seriously sick in the head from your hatred towards women. A quote from the article:

"They nursed soldiers in the midst of the unspeakable horrors on the front, often with little or no training or equipment."

Besides, what's your point exactly? Women weren't allowed into the army at that time. So, perhaps you would like to discuss female soldiers in the Soviet army or Polish women in the Home Army (AK), huh? They were very much on the frontline.
Atch 22 | 4,127
22 Feb 2022 #408
female soldiers in the Soviet army or Polish women in the Home Army (AK),

I think you'll find Paulina that their contribution will be sneered at and dismissed. That's usually the way of 21st century armchair warriors, whilst the men who served alongside those women had nothing but respect for them.
Paulina 16 | 4,370
22 Feb 2022 #409
@Atch, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest, unfortunately.

whilst the men who served alongside those women had nothing but respect for them.

Not only them. Present day soldiers have great respect for them too.
Novichok 4 | 7,964
22 Feb 2022 #410
I said "invent", not use. My cat can play piano but didn't design it and didn't make it.

My 8-year-old gd can write. She can also dance.
Paulina 16 | 4,370
22 Feb 2022 #411
@Novichok, are you one of those PF men who can't read? Shame on you. I've already provided for you a link about some of the female inventors in my post #401.

My cat can play piano but didn't design it and didn't make it.

Can your cat also invent Kevlar or windshield wiper? I guess not? But women can.
Novichok 4 | 7,964
22 Feb 2022 #412
Female contribution is nearly perfect zero.

I've already provided for you a link about some of the female inventors in my post #401.

Some inventors...hahahahaha...

Can you read? Did you notice that nearly perfect zero in my post? That covers your "some inventors".

Try to estimate the number of patents for men and women and divide W/M? What do you think you will get? 0.00001? The same thing with everything else where creativity is involved.

By your way of arguing, blacks are just as inventive. They invented peanut butter. Wow!

But women can.

There is a difference between "can" and "do". If you ask, I will be happy to explain.
Atch 22 | 4,127
22 Feb 2022 #413
The same thing with everything else where creativity is involved.

Now that's a really foolish statement. I think you'd do well to observe that old adage 'It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.'
Paulina 16 | 4,370
22 Feb 2022 #414
Some inventors...hahahahaha...

Ask the police officers and soldiers who are protecting your sorry ass whether they're laughing at the invention of Kevlar, idiot.

There is a difference between "can" and "do".

Yes, and they did it. Women invented Kevlar and that windshield wiper I mentioned, among others.

Try to estimate the number of patents for men and women and divide W/M? What do you think you will get? 0.00001?

I don't know, did you even bother to check or are you talking out of your ass?
Novichok 4 | 7,964
22 Feb 2022 #415
Women invented Kevlar and that windshield wiper I mentioned, among others.

W/M...What is it? Roughly....0.000001?
Paulina 16 | 4,370
22 Feb 2022 #416
The same thing with everything else where creativity is involved.

Are you saying that women lack creativity? Atch is right, that's one of the most moronic statements I've read on this forum lol

Novichok, you claimed that the number of patents for women must be on the level of 0.00001. Why don't you back it up with data then?
Novichok 4 | 7,964
22 Feb 2022 #417
Novichok, you claimed that the number of patents for women must be on the level of 0.00001.

No, I didn't. Can you read?
Good Lord, this forum should have a comprehension test.
Alien 20 | 4,979
22 Feb 2022 #418
@Novichok
As I look around I can see only smart woman both at home and at work. And now you, please look around. You have/had a Mother, Wife, Daughter and Granddaughter. What can you see?
Paulina 16 | 4,370
22 Feb 2022 #419
@Novichok, you wrote:

Try to estimate the number of patents for men and women and divide W/M? What do you think you will get? 0.00001?

What I think or what you think doesn't matter, because we can be thinking all kinds of things. What matters is data.
So, what is the number of patents for men and women?

You have/had a Mother, Wife, Daughter and Granddaughter. What can you see?

I've been wondering about this too. Does he also view them as evil morons and compares them in his head to domesticated animals?
Atch 22 | 4,127
22 Feb 2022 #420
Here's my view on Novichok/Poloniusz. Are you all sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin ........

Novi doesn't really hate women. He pretends to. It's an excuse to post when he's run out of stuff to say about Poles, Brits, and all the other people he supposedly hates. He's also juvenile enough to get a kick out of seeing 'outraged' reactions. I wouldn't bother my barney with him but on a point of principle one has a moral duty to occasionally challenge eejits.

Poloniusz is an entirely different kettle of fish. He does genuinely hate women. This probably has its roots in some issues with his mother. For whatever reason, he didn't feel loved by her or else she was just not very nice and he quite understandably didn't like her. So now every woman is his mother.

Thoughts anyone??


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