The Current Attitudes of Poles Living in Poland towards Poles Living/Working Abroad

Has it changed in the recent years? It seems more and more of Polish people living in Poland find it 'normal' that other Poles live or work abroad. But yet 5-10 years ago they would blame them for lack of 'patriotism' or for 'giving up too easily' etc..

This is a good topic, I often feel that if the policies do not support a favorable environment that it will continue and Poland will be headed to where every other European nation is headed. That is losing their identity, culture and heritage in the name of economics. I think with the right policies Poland can achieve both.

I would like to hear from the people's view?

As Poles working abroad send money home, it is obvious that Poles at home receiving money from abroad are very happy and don't complain;).

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Are Poles staying in Poland wealthier than Poles abroad?

Are most Poles staying in Poland of better economic class/standing than those migrating elsewhere? I mean no offense but I don't think the majority of Central and Eastern Europeans doing labour in the West are from high class background, even if they have degrees (who doesn't here?).

Teachers are low class here in the Balkans as they're underpaid. So they'd rather go to a call center (terrible jobs but pay well) or go pick strawberries abroad. Those with a wealthy lifestyle and private businesses you don't see to look for a job abroad and they travel just for fun. I see more and more luxury vehicles yet we don't have enough brick layers or waiters (they go to Germany). Is it the same in Poland? I don't think Doda will migrate anytime soon.

So do you think CEE will end up with more high classes and a shrinking middle class but also not enough working class?

You rarely see Slovenians and Czechs - the two outstanding economic performers in their regions to work in the UK or Germany except as uni profs abd they rarely go to do call center jobs. Is there such a thing?

Foreign teachers in Poland are mostly low class expats from the UK and basically get paid peanuts. Most of them have to take menial jobs just to survive, its a miserable existence for sure.

It still happens, especially when emigrant Poles vote in Poland-based elections while staying abroad and they choose wrong candidates.... :)

I mean are Poles here in Bulgaria working in call centers with Polish language likely to be troubled? I mean most Westerners that come here in Bulgaria are total losers back home and they have no particular skills rather than being fluent in their language.

We're so welcoming that any White trash Brit could be a boss here but Poles and Czechs etc. are usually doing ordinary sales agents jobs so why would they come here?! Shall I avoid them? I spoke with a girl from Łódź working in Sofia and we was weird. Who just goes online, finds a job offer that asks for no skills except your mother language in a totally randomly chosen country?! Rents in Sofia are almost at Wawa levels with lower salaries and buying a row house is actually more expensive here! She looked and acted like a druggie.

On the other hand people that stayed in Poland obviously would be of better education or at least be decent enough to to research better and not take the first job offer online in a faraway land.

They like travelling abroad and want to spend some time in a warm country which possesses a warm sea. They look for jobs which don`t require any longer commitments or investment - call centre job, for example.

Faraway? - come on, Bulgaria isn`t faraway for Poles.

Also most Indians who seem to want to go to Poland seem to be from troubled families. They don't seem to know or care too much about Poland, it could be any relatively well off country in Europe, they sound desperate to go there and make an Indian restaurant. If you're a wealthy, educated Indian would you go all the way to Poland? FB groups are filled with oriental guys wanting to move to the promised lands of EU lol.

I mean I'd like to be an expat/immigrant somewhere but only in the few countries I really like culturally. Many expats however seem to be of the "anywhere but home" type. And while for Indians and orientals it's obviously due to money I'm highly suspicious of Poles and Westerners coming to poorer Bulgaria. We're not Greece so no exotic islands. I just want to know their agenda.

Warm country? Sofia can get down to - 23 in winter.

There might be one more reason apart from travelling to a warm country which I should have mentioned in my previous post. It can also be a little fascination/curiosity with that country - somebody heard or read sth nice about it, or met some natives, and now wants to see directly what it is like on the spot. So the Polish girl you met could be like that - checking out the positive info she had acquired before.


Really? I didn`t know it.


Hmm, I doubt it. They might have heard about Poland and got a little curious, like I wrote above.

What makes you think they are wealthy?


Come on, stop being so suspicious. I went to Bulgaria as a boy in 1970s and it was a wonderful holiday. I rode on a camel, drank Bull`s Blood wine for the first time, saw pupkins, learnt rules of street trade, saw nude females on a nudist beach, caught crabs and pipefish in the sea. And many other. If sb asks me if it is worth going and staying there for longer, I will say: of course.

In that way sb will be encouraged to check it out for themselves. :)

Lol I've never rode on a camel or drank that wine. I guess when you go on a vacation you try more things whereas as a local you just kinda do the same stuff as usual. I first went hiking & wakeboarding in Slovakia despite having two mountains and a lake next door in Sofia.

@pawian "Bull's-Blood wine"
Bull's-Blood wine ( Egri Bikavar ) is a hungarian red wine. Bulgarian red wine was for expl. Sophia/Sofia wine.