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Why is circumcision not practiced in Poland?


natasia 3 | 368
3 May 2012 #361
In your honest opinion, how many of the 10 women, after "close examination", are going to say at the end, "Yeah, I think I prefer the one with the skin sheath thingy that covers the end."

I don't think I am inventing anything. Is this not you saying that you think it highly unlikely that any woman (American or whatever) would prefer an uncut one?

You will simply have to get over this: American women don't like an unclipped schwantz.

And is this not you saying for definite (not even that you think ... probably ... maybe ... in general) - that American woman (so, all) don't like them?

er, please see above (your own words).
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,879
3 May 2012 #362
Listen. If we're going to have a serious discussion, you need to start addressing the things i say in context and for what they are, not what you want them to be. You can't take things I say, put them into your little imaginary scenerio, and comment on them. Respond according to what I actually write. Focus, natasia.

Think of what you just wrote. Are you honestly comparing the numerous conversations/articles I've encountered throughout my life about what American women think about snipped vs. unsnipped to your 5 minute, 2 groszy poll you just took with a few Polish girls? And dare I ask.....you said "generally women did NOT go for the circumsized version...." which means that some DID prefer it....what were their reasons for preferring the snipped version? Also, you asked Polish girls. Of the ones that said they preferred unsnipped ones, how many of them have actually experienced a snipped one?

Your poll was meaningless and my experiences, over a lifetime, are all the evidence I need to know that where I come from, the VAST majority of women absolutely do not like unclipped ones.

What the USA does is no more important than anywhere else in the world but however far back in the conversation it was, the USA was brought up, and now we're talking about the USA, partially because this is about circumcision and we pretty much do it to everyone here, it's a good source of comparison. I keep going on about it because people keep coming up with reasons as to why it's not true or why it is, and the reasons were total BS.
natasia 3 | 368
3 May 2012 #363
Not sure what sex in the city has to do with all this

because Charlotte apparently found an uncircumcised one very distasteful, and this is an indication of what all women think, because all women are like the women on Sex and the City, and that is why all women watch it, talk about it and envy the women on it their lifestyles.
TheOther 6 | 3,633
3 May 2012 #364
You cant tell and asthetically they dont look that different when hard...

Yes, that is the answer I was talking about... :)

partially because this is about circumcision and we pretty much do it to everyone here

Ain't true anymore, it seems:

well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/u-s-circumcision-rates-on-the-decline/
drmomma.org/2010/08/us-circumcision-rate-falls-to-33.html
Amathyst 19 | 2,700
3 May 2012 #365
Yes, that was the answer I was talking about... :)

One has to have the personal experience to be able to comment with an informed answer IMHO ;0)

It never became popular in the UK and its looked upon as more a religious thing here in the UK, i.e. only Jewish people and Muslims do it, culturally its just not done thing, but thats not to say there arent plenty of snipped pullys out there..I wouldnt have a clue what women in the UK think about it because Ive never asked...Personally I dont think they'd really care as long as it was fully functioning and put a a smile their face :D

because Charlotte apparently found an uncircumcised one very distasteful, and this is an indication of what all women think, because all women are like the women on Sex and the City, and that is why all women watch it, talk about it and envy the women on it their lifestyles

Its a programme, nothing more...the women who envy it and try to live by it are thicko losers who dont actually have a life...they'd also be lucky to get a glimse of a cock on screen let alone in real life!
jasondmzk
3 May 2012 #366
One has to have the personal experience to be able to comment with an informed answer

That seals it. I'm gonna take one for the team. Er, two, actually. Cut and un-cut. My wife will be furious. I'll report back with my findings.
sa11y 5 | 331
3 May 2012 #367
Experienced both. No difference whatsoever.
natasia 3 | 368
3 May 2012 #368
you gotta read back the previous posts from f.wickets to understand my comment ...
Amathyst 19 | 2,700
3 May 2012 #369
That seals it. I'm gonna take one for the team. Er, two, actually. Cut and un-cut. My wife will be furious. I'll report back with my findings.

LOL..I meant from a womans point of view :D You're married, evidently, she's more than happy with what she has...
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,879
3 May 2012 #370
because Charlotte apparently found an uncircumcised one very distasteful, and this is an indication of what all women think, because all women are like the women on Sex and the City, and that is why all women watch it, talk about it and envy the women on it their lifestyles.

you need to go back and read how SATC came into the conversation. your sarcasm would be funny if it only was applicable to the conversation, which it is not.
jon357 75 | 22,596
3 May 2012 #371
because Charlotte apparently found an uncircumcised one very distasteful, and this is an indication of what all women think,

She'd probably never seen the real thing.
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
3 May 2012 #372
Ain't true anymore, it seems

And it should be declining since there are no medical benefits to having it done, it's the opposite really. In European countries it's under 20%.

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Circumcision_by_Country.png
natasia 3 | 368
3 May 2012 #373
since there are no medical benefits to having it don

Penn Boy, where were you when we were trying to fight the barrage of medical 'evidence' thrown out earlier in the discussion? : ) Thank you ...
So there really are no reasons to do it ... apart from cultural ones ... which is the whole point ... but won't be accepted by a few out there, for sure.
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
4 May 2012 #374
Penn Boy, where were you when we were trying to fight the barrage of medical 'evidence' thrown out earlier

I was at work lol
natasia 3 | 368
4 May 2012 #375
oh yes that thing guys do ; )

(joke joke joke) (yes of course i work very hard) (just had a few hours of light relief posting nonsense on sites designed to bring out the naked skiver in all of us ...)
Kielbasa Kid 2 | 4
4 May 2012 #376
It's interesting that Jews and Muslims hate each other, but when it comes to having their baby boys ringbarked, they are in aggreeance.
You would think they would find a way to disagree for the sake of disagreeing on this, as they do with every other issue.
sascha 1 | 824
4 May 2012 #377
It's interesting that Jews and Muslims hate each other

do they or is more likely aggressor/defender situation?

but when it comes to having their baby boys ringbarked, they are in aggreeance.

obviously their faiths 'orders' them the same action. nothing special

You would think they would find a way to disagree for the sake of disagreeing on this, as they do with every other issue.

my guess would be that into that conflict many this are transported from the outside and that there might be some ground for understanding when left alone. unfortunately both sides are abused for purposes of other interests.
urbanlegend - | 24
4 May 2012 #378
And it should be declining since there are no medical benefits to having it done, it's the opposite really.

...and that's not even the whole story.

As mentioned, apart from religious reasons the rate is less than 20% in the vast majority of countries in the world - not just Europe.
In many countries it's less than 5%, including a lot of Europe.

Rather than accept that just because it's the American way doesn't make it right, Fuzzywickets would rather cite SATC as an example of how really, circumcision is better
peterweg 37 | 2,309
4 May 2012 #379
It's interesting that Jews and Muslims hate each other,

They are basically the same, its like brothers fighting over their family inheritance.
sascha 1 | 824
4 May 2012 #380
It's interesting that Jews and Muslims hate each other

maybe they should go back to their roots...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,879
4 May 2012 #381
Fuzzywickets would rather cite SATC as an example of how really, circumcision is better

inaccurate. SATC was brought up for an entirely different reason. but there they go again, making up fictional posters and fictional posts.
urbanlegend - | 24
4 May 2012 #382
SATC was brought up for an entirely different reason.

Which was? That women prefer it - no? Therefore "the better option?"
natasia 3 | 368
4 May 2012 #383
inaccurate. SATC was brought up for an entirely different reason. but there they go again, making up fictional posters and fictional posts.

Ok. We have to sort this out once and for all.

You, Fuzzywickets, yourself, brought up SATC. You brought it up because you first asked another poster to 'face it', that 'American women don't like how an unclipped schwantz (??) looks'. I said 'How you do you know?" and you said ...

So you brought it up, citing it as your source for the 'fact' that American women don't like uncircumcised ones.

We all then said that SATC was a load of bull, and no self-respecting woman would reflect the views there. You then launched into a defence of SATC as some kind of bible on female opinion, and as the one TV programme in the world that all women adored. Some of us (well, actually just me, as the only female in the discussion) then said that was also bull. You didn't like this. Someone else then said SATC was written by a gay Jewish guy. You really didn't like this.

So ... you did actually use SATC in your argument as to circumcision being better, because you said Charlotte recoiled in horror from an uncut one, and clearly preferred cut ones, and that American women - and Polish, and women in general worldwide - had the same views.

So you said, effectively: Women are horrified by uncut dicks and prefer absolutely to have them snipped.
You also gave a million examples of why it was verging on the reckless and dangerous to not circumcise.

And I say: bollocks.
Lots of women love the real thing.
And all that nonsense about disease and cleanliness is just that.

So Poland is not backwards. In this.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,879
4 May 2012 #384
So you brought it up, citing it as your source for the 'fact' that American women don't like uncircumcised ones.

no, i brought it up because you were questioning how I knew what women here thought. people talk about it, i've heard it many times, and i brought up SATC to further show how common it is to be spoken about and that i wasn't just speaking from my own personal opinions. so common that it was on the 2nd season of a very popular TV show, world wide actually. does it in the end bolster the idea that american women don't like unclipped ones? yes, yes i believe it does because i know for a fact that millions of women across the country nodded their heads during that episode in agreement, but i didn't bring up that episode just for that.

As for the rest, no and no and no ad nauseum. i'm not going to put each of your sentences into a quote box and comment on all of it because it would take forever and is a waste of time. you are simply misunderstanding what i'm trying to convey here.

You also gave a million examples of why it was verging on the reckless and dangerous to not circumcise.

now i think you're confusing me with someone else.
jon357 75 | 22,596
4 May 2012 #385
Lots of women love the real thing.
And all that nonsense about disease and cleanliness is just that.

So Poland is not backwards. In this.

Exactly
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
4 May 2012 #386
So you brought it up, citing it as your source for the 'fact' that American women don't like uncircumcised ones.

Yes and No. If she's never seen one before she might be kind of grossed out by it, but once she has sex an uncircumcised one it's more pleasurable. Heard the skin is an extra comfort.
natasia 3 | 368
4 May 2012 #387
it's more pleasurable

... presumably because it was perfectly designed to work like that.

Ok, another question:
Why did Nature provide the foreskin in the first place? What is it there for? So if you remove it, what do you lose?

ps

It was of course a joke, in SATC - Charlotte, earnestly Jewish, and additionally squeamish, coy, and quasi-virginal, sees an uncircumcised dick and reacts as if she has just seen the devil. That is the joke. Samantha, on the other hand, was probably licking her lips.
sascha 1 | 824
4 May 2012 #388
Why did Nature provide the foreskin in the first place? What is it there for? So if you remove it, what do you lose?

just ask wiki ;)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreskin

mainly protection.
natasia 3 | 368
4 May 2012 #389
nice pictures ; )

Protection.
Lubrication.
Pleasure.

All seem like pretty good reasons for keeping it, to my (admittedly fairly one-track) mind ...
sascha 1 | 824
4 May 2012 #390
All seem like pretty good reasons for keeping it, to my (admittedly fairly one-track) mind ...

its about preferences on both sides ;)


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