Dodgefan07 1 | 19
24 Apr 2012 #271
peterweg: Yup, its basically a third world practice. HIV and witchcraft are also common in Africa.
Witam, Peter and Jon !
Yeah, you mean those third-world countries like Canada, USA, Israel, South Korea and Philippines?? You mean those same exact countries that have virtually NO Phimosis, ten times lower rates of Urinary tract infections than European countries where circumcision is not practiced, and much lower rates of cervical cancer and HIV??? You mean those countries, Peter?? wink wink.
Pretty well. The sad thing is that people in villages in some parts of Africa are told it prevents them getting HIV.
Hey Jon, Maybe you are misinformed, or maybe you are intentionally being dishonest?? I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
Actually, being circumcised is not a guaranteed prevention against HIV or AIDS, and that's not what they are told.
First of all, multiple case studies involving different countries and tens of thousands of men -- gay and straight, uncircumcised and those circumcised as adults and those circumcised before puberty. The ones in all the countries, who were circumcised as children, had significantly lower rates of AIDs and HIV.
Second, the people were told in the tribes and villages that having sex with a virgin girl would cure them of AIDS, and this is precisely the reason that so many young girls are being raped and infected-- and the disease is spreading in some places at epidemic proportions.
One of the main reasons it is not practiced in Poland is due to the long history of anti-semitism perpetuated by Catholics. Catholics actually banned the practice, even though Peter was circumcised, Mary and Joseph had Jesus circumcised, as were all the disciples and nearly all the early church saints. Americans, and South Koreans, and Philippinos and tens of thousands in different countries in Africa haved looked at all the mountains of research and realize all the benefits.
The Center for Disease Control confirm this, and just one site, dawanet.com/nonmuslim/intro/misc/circum1.html, lists more than 60 separate doctors, clinics, and case studies which prove the medical and hygiene benefits.
Actually most of the countries where circumcision is routinely or mostly practiced are not Jewish at all -- Canada =about 50%, USA, Philippines, and South Korea and many Christian, non-Catholic countries in Africa.
I live in Poland, and love the country and the people. Many are very hospitable and intelligent and the literacy rate is higher than the USA. :-)
Poland has the second oldest constitution in the world, and the second oldest University in the world. Thanks to Polish mathemeticians, the allied forces cracked the enigma and defeated the Germans.:-) Sadly, communism has permanently scarred the culture of Poland, and there was a lot of anti-semitism.
If someone from the desert think of a better, faster way to shovel snow, Americans gladly use it, make it better and market the idea. If someone shows Poles a better, faster way to do something, they get defensive and trash the idea, because someone else thought of it. They won't admit all the research shows the benefits, because in their minds, it's still connected with Jews.