Gypsies or Roma: European and Polish attitudes towards

what does this even mean. you are an idiot.

Im a Romanian girl in Ireland, been living here almost all my life and although I am proud of being quite open minded, Gypsies can all go to hell!! They put out a bad name of my country and steal, lie and corrupt everything they touch! They are sneaky greedy uneducated people. From looking at them, you could never guess what a beautiful and unique place my homeland is, it is NOT swarming with this scum (mainly bescuse out goverment threw them out and they came here) :(

Such a pity that you are too bigoted and/or stupid to understand that Romani people are not from Romania.

But together with Bulgaria, Romania does host the highest percentage of Romani people in Europe doesn't it?

Yes, It does and most people associate Romania with Romani gypsies. Whenever I mention to enquiring strangers, they always seem so shocked that I am not a gypsy and I find that most Romanians feel the same. I even had a polish guy attack and sneer at my boyfriend as he is with "a gypsy".

Obviously I know the real history of gypsies, they simply settled in my country but alot of people dont know that and they tar us all with the same brush. Most Romanians in other countries are Roma gypsies anyway, very few are just ordinary people like myself.

If Romania is a land of gypsies, I wonder why they didn't steal the Polish National Treasure back in 1940, when was sent in Romania preventing to be stolen by the Germans. The Treasure was returned to Poland after the war. I'm Romanian and I met a lot of Polish tourists in the '80, on the Black Sea Coast. I never heard a word about gypsyland.

It has nothing to do with Native Romanians.

The World is very ignorant about Romania. Their opinions are shaped by the very few pictures/videos they see. And most of them are gypsies begging on the street. I do not think people view the gypsies as Native Romanians. Just a roaming people that set up shop in Romania and are surely on their way to Germany now

> I dated an Asian girl and her Chinese father was adamant that Poles have Gypsy in them

To say nothing about the gypsies (their percentage is higher in Hungary than in Romania), I entered on this forum to find out which it will be the position of Poland in front of this Western blackmail refugees vs money. Will you accept the quotas? Our president - a German Romanian! - disagreed at first the quotas, saying we will receive 1.785 at maximum, but yesterday somehow he let to understand that Romania may be coerced to accept a larger number.

Vlad Tepes, dear. Don`t be upset, please. When nervous people say all kind of things, even ugly. Listen, forget it. Romanians are ok.

Vlad, if the question is whether or not people know there are more gypsies in Hungary than Romania...... I would say No.

Confusion might lie in the name

Romani people

Romania........

Of course, Crow, we're in the same club. I'm not upset at all. We have a problem with gypsies, they are hard to assimilate and causing troubles everywhere. Of course, this is politically incorect, but is true. Now we're facing another big problem, and the solution of this problem is, in my opinion, the exit from this Soviet European Union.

well said.

As far as I know, "rrom" means "man" in gypsy language. But the name of my country is derived from Rome, the capital of Latin world. Indeed, during the Middle Age, the main part of actual Romania was called Valachia. The term "valach" means Latin, descendent of the Roman colonists who settled here after Roman emperor Traian defeted the Dac king Decebal, in 105-106 AD. In the whole Middle Age we writed our Latin language with the kirillic letters, because there was a strong Slavian influence. A strong reply to this was manifested in the 19 century, when the whole Romanian inteligentsia begun writing with Latin letters and give to the newly united regions Valachia and Moldova the name "Romanian Principates", followed by "Romanian Kingdom". In 1918, Romania Mare (the Big Romania) included Transilvania, Basarabia and Bucovina.

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It takes two sides to integrate and include... what does a government do with minorities that openly insist on not being integrated and included?

What does that even mean?

Ask Lyzko... but gypsy populations generally do not want to be integrated and included in the larger national society. There's lots they could do on their own toward that end and by and large... they don't do that.

Some in Spain have (and maybe the UK) but east of the old Iron Curtain gypsy culture is all about maintaining separateness and not becoming like the gadje...

Can you blame them?

If they weren't first in line for any kind of handout I might be a little more sympathetic....

Can you blame them?

Gypsies are not black. Blacks in US are spoiled brats who got used to screw other by accusing them by racism, and getting themselves into high position.

Gypsies do have genetically caused behavior different from genetically caused behavior of white population. And that behavior causes trouble.

It's actually interesting when in during socialism, sometimes there were a babies who were orphans, both parents killed, or died by health reasons. Stuff. Now, socialistic ideology OF COURSE didn't even allow to think these two children would behave differently. According to socialistic ideology all behavior is cultural and caused by parenthood.

There were decent women who were specialized in taking these into family and were extraordinarily capable in providing decent parent stuff.

And theirs skill allowed both types of children to grow well, until puberty happened. (Actually it might be pre-puberty stage and puberty, I don't remember it well. Gypsies have this stuff 2 years before white population, and white population has sexual stuff 2 years before these who have noble genes.)

Then it was obvious the theory about no genetically caused behavior is BULLSHIT.

To quote foster parent of one of them "He's nice boy, but you wouldn't believe into what trouble he managed to get during puberty."

How rare! Teenage boys getting in trouble! Who'd a thunk it...


Or achieving success (which you have failed in), not that the actual facts agree with your pathetic wibbling.


Does that include Irish Travellers?

And this isn't anything to do with the current deadbeat regime's sabre-rattling about 'Polexit'.

Odd that so many conservatives seem to loathe gypsies. After all, they've been around for centuries, lead a very traditional lifestyle, have preserved their unique traditions, are family oriented and do business, often in the countryside. It just shows that so many pathetic right-wingers aren't conservative at all, but are just mean-spirited, pettifogging Alfgarnetts.

Because conservatives "think", not "feel", and know that gypsies are parasites and a net liability to the host country.


...and so has syphilis.

And that post (which I temporarily unblocked the geriatric troll to read) proves my point perfectly.

Hatred is hatred. And then they wonder why Roma don't want to 'integrate' with them.

It's a mutually beneficial hostile relationship where both sides gain in solidarity by having an easily visible Other, to use as a bad example.

Humans are a social species but you can't have a flock if everyone belongs....

And gypsies will always survive. If settled people should have learnt anything about them by now, it is that whatever they throw at them, there will still be gypsies.

Like syphilis. Not on me and not in my town.


Or arts, literature, customs, or ideas...The ultimate leftist's dream: each person would be white, black, Asian, female, male, straight, gay, same height, same weight, all at the same time, ...you get the drift...same intelligence and totally obedient to the system. And, of course, disarmed.

The ultimate leftist (soft core) dream is that portrayed on many American TV shows, with a color coordinated 'diverse' cast playing characters with the exact seem world view and values. I can barely watch American series anymore.... European (broadly understood) and Latin American stuff is much more interesting and less preachy.

The hardcore leftist dream is the Khmer Rouge...

The dreams of the right aren't much better, functional centrism is where it's at.