Polish females who made it

Poland doesn`t need feminism or women liberation movement. Why? As a matter of fact, Polish women could be independent whenever they wanted. Polish males have always accepted that and even revered their female partners - probably as a result of the cult of Mary, God`s Mother, in Poland. Besides, when men went to combat during wars or risings and got killed or deported to Siberia, it was Polish women who took care of everything, children, household, etc.

This thread is about great Polish women who made it to the top.

Hanna Beata Gronkiewicz-Waltz (Polish pronunciation: [ˈxanna ɡrɔnˈkʲevʲit͡ʂ ˈvalt͡s], born 4 November 1952 in Warsaw) is a Polish liberal-conservative politician who has been the Mayor of Warsaw since 2 December 2006. She is the first woman to hold this position.

Between 1992 and 2000, she was the Chairman of the National Bank of Poland, the central bank of Poland. She resigned to take the position of the Deputy Chairman of European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, a position she held between 2001 and 2004.

Gronkiewicz-Waltz was elected to the Sejm on 25 September 2005 after receiving 137,280 votes in the 19th Warsaw district, running on the Civic Platform list.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanda_Rutkiewicz

Wanda made it to the top of Everest

Yes!!!
[i]On 16 October 1978, she became the third woman, the first Pole and the first European woman to reach the summit of Mount Everest. In 1986 she became the first woman to successfully climb and descend K2, which she did without supplemental oxygen, as part of a small expedition led by Lilliane and Maurice Barrard. Her triumph was marred when both the Barrards died on the descent, becoming two of thirteen climbers to die on K2 that summer.

not to mention my wife EWA NIKOLAS:)

A bit historical but still valid for this thread - the two Polish female Noble Prize winners:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Curie



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szymborska

Szymborska Poland

Irena Sendlerowa, who smuggled 2500 Jewish children out of the Warsaw Ghetto and gave them false identity documents. Eventually she was found out by the Nazis and tortured but managed to escape and continued her work. She and her team saved twice as many Jewish people as Oskar Schindler. She was awarded as one of the Righteous among the Nations.

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Tamara £empicka - Art Deco painter, whose name lives forever in one of the loveliest perfume in the world :)

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Two sportswomen from Poland from the other thread qualify here as well.

A few jet fighter pilots - among them - Urszula Brzezińska Hołownia - the wife of a known politician.

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"Pani Walewska", I don't know who it was, but the perfume still exists today.

Perhaps it's named after Maria Walewska who married Napolean?

@Atch, yes, but Maria Walewska was Napoleon's lover, not wife:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Walewska

"a Polish noblewoman in the court of Napoleon I who used her influence to sway the emperor towards the creation of an independent Polish state"

The perfume:



Also a cake is named after her:

Gosh yes, sorry about that! I must have mixed her up with Josephine :)

Define a "woman", pawian. Those could be guys who self-identify as women. You never know until you touch or at least see.


Was she married when she was banging the French guy?

@Novichok, why don't you read that article in Wikipedia I linked to? Or is it too much of a brain effort for you?? :D

Because:

a) He's not interested.
b) He's mentally ill.

It was a mistake on your part to direct me to Wiki. First, I thought that Marysia was just a cheating scumbag. Then, on your advice, I get this. Quoting:

As the eldest, with her brothers having debts, it was up to her to secure the future of her family. At the age of eighteen she was married by her mother to the sixty-eight-year-old Athanasius, Count Colonna-Walewski, a wealthy landowner,

Now I know that her Mommie was a pimp and Mary was a prostitute selling her 18-year-old sexy body for money. That's so bad I would keep quiet about it. The fact that she had only one john is irrelevant.

Not much of a historian, is he.

Yes, absolutely disgusting.


No, that didn't make her a prostitute - she was married. In the past it was common, especially among noble and aristocratic families, to marry off their kids to "the right" family. Kids' marriages (men included, not only women) were supposed to serve their families' interests or save them from bankruptcy. For example, Polish classic 19th century novel "Lalka" ("Doll") revolves around this topic - a rich entrepreneur tries to persuade a woman from a noble family to marry him by paying off her family debts. I also recommend watching the film "The Other Boleyn Girl" if someone wants to have an idea what it looked like in the past.


Not by the standards of those times. She made her marry and not have sex outside of marriage. You could say, however, that a number of Polish aristocrats did "pimp Mary out" to Napoleon - they were hoping that she could influence Napoleon to support Poland's fight for independence. And apparently she did.

Btw, her husband must've known what was going on since everyone in Warsaw's higher circles knew about it. He also acknowledged Napoleon's son as his own. So I guess you could say that her own husband was "pimping her out" too.

Her mother married Mary off to that old fart, because her brothers had debts. So, first she Mary to sacrifice herself for her brothers/family and then for her country.

Eventually she did divorce the old fart and, together with her oldest son, got half of his estates (which were, of course, heavily indebted). Four years later Maria married her longtime admirer and lover, count Philippe Antoine d'Ornano.

I hope she got to experience some love and happiness at least later in her life.

We also have to rememberthat marrying a girl to a wealthy man was often the only way to secure her economically in the future. Today a woman can marry a poor man and still secure her living by her own work. Back then she could only rely on man.

You can spin it all you want but even then an 18-year-old girl was close to crying or vomiting at the very thought of being banged by an old bag of money. Or for the country...or any other reason other than that she was truly in love.

Some things are constant.


That makes it even more repugnant. Mommie pimping her daughter for the irresponsible brothers! If the family didn't have money for healthcare...OK, still bad but not the bottom...

I would bet these a-hole brothers were in debt because the liked to party or gamble too much, not because the RE market went the wrong way and their investments right with it.

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@Lenka, yes, exactly. Fortunetly, these days, at least in our part of the world, women have a choice (which clearly pisses off some sh1tty men :)))


This reminds me of the story of Mary Boleyn, btw (again - I recommend watching "The Other Boleyn Girl").


Of course. As I wrote - it was disgusting. I'm glad that those times are over. It's still happening in countries like Afghanistan, for example. Worse even.


Well, duh!

If you mean me, you are wrong. I told both of my daughters that money is the single most important thing and nothing comes even close. Saving the world and helping the poor is what you do when you still have 15 minutes to sit down and rest because there is absolutely nothing else to do at the end of that day.

I also told them to plan for the day when the bums will leave them because half of them will.

This is why an all-gay world is the best. No rapes, no pregnancies, no custody problems...a dream...

That wasn`t Mommie`s fault, it was a long standing tradition in the patriarchal society. Males imposed it on their daughters and sisters to marry men they didn`t love.

Luckily, those sick customs have disappeared. At least in Poland. :)
Thank Goddess, women rule!!! Ha!

I understand "tradition" and I would be quiet about Mary W. if she was not mentioned as an achievement.
In her case, Mommie, the pimp, could have pimped her out to the old man's handsome son to make the stench more passable.

Alien added his typical sardonic opinion with this Walewska while you took it too seriously. Show some sense of humour. :):):)

My comment was based on the thread title: Polish females who made it not Alien's posts.

But Alien was pulling our legs with Walewska - he often resorts to irony when he resurrects old threads. . You and Atch caught the bait. :):)

And I responded in kind in #14 to rev it up.