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johnny reb 28 | 5,248
6 Aug 2017 #31
Intentionally encouraging drug use may fall under one of them.
Or at the least revoke an ex-pats citizenship as an undesirable.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
6 Aug 2017 #32
Intentionally encouraging drug use may fall under one of them.

Nope. Not enough under EU law.

Or at the least revoke an ex-pats citizenship as an undesirable.

Nope. The Polish government cannot revoke the citizenship of a Polish citizen.
jon357 66 | 16,960
6 Aug 2017 #33
Indeed. And if the OP is likely to buy something, better he gets sensible pointers than falls in with the wrong people.
johnny reb 28 | 5,248
6 Aug 2017 #34
sensible pointers

Telling him to go to Czech were the laws are not so stiff is not a sensible pointer, it is an encouragement to use illegal drugs.

Telling him to stay away from drugs period is a sensible pointer.
jon357 66 | 16,960
6 Aug 2017 #35
Telling him to stay away from drugs

Ultimately that's a decision for him. I would never want to change anyone's mind either way.
johnny reb 28 | 5,248
6 Aug 2017 #36
I know you wouldn't because you have no morals.
I on the other hand I would do all I could to guide a younger person to the right road of life to keep him safe and out of trouble.
jon357 66 | 16,960
6 Aug 2017 #37
no morals.

Drugs have no morals, either positive or negative. People use them anyway - if they do that, better they buy safely and avoid judicial persecution.
johnny reb 28 | 5,248
7 Aug 2017 #38
Correct, drugs have no morals and neither do you.

People use them anyway

Does that mean it's your job to encourage them to break the law ?
jon357 66 | 16,960
7 Aug 2017 #39
neither do you

Certainly more than you will ever have. Some of us don't feel the need to preach.

to encourage them to break the law ?

There you go again, assuming that objectivity is 'encouragement'.
johnny reb 28 | 5,248
7 Aug 2017 #40
Some of us don't feel the need to preach.

You mean you don't like to hear that you are wrong.

Certainly more than you will ever have.

Only in your dreams jon.
I think we are done here as the conclusion has been reached.
You support the use of illegal drugs and I do not.
I stand for everything that you stand against and visa versa.
Guess we will have to wait for judgment day to find out who was right and who was wrong.
jon357 66 | 16,960
7 Aug 2017 #41
You support the use of illegal drugs and I do not

You were extolling the use of marijuana a while ago.

You support

Or simply acknowledge that some people will use them, that criminalisation hasn't worked, and that if someone wants to buy something, better they don't fall into harm's way in the process.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
7 Aug 2017 #42
Does that mean it's your job to encourage them to break the law ?

It's not a crime in Poland to discuss the drug laws in different countries.

Again, stop trying to project American hyper-sensitivity onto Europeans.

You were extolling the use of marijuana a while ago.

I remember it well. His knowledge of the drug is certainly far beyond the average lay person.
Chemikiem 7 | 2,496
7 Aug 2017 #43
acknowledge that some people will use them, that criminalisation hasn't worked, and that if someone wants to buy something, better they don't fall into harm's way in the process.

Agree with all of this, but I do have to wonder at people who go to different countries looking to buy drugs, especially if it's not just a bit of weed. Just asking for trouble really, and worst case scenario, that person's banged up abroad.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,940
7 Aug 2017 #44
banged up abroad.

ah but it makes good telly...:)
Chemikiem 7 | 2,496
7 Aug 2017 #45
Certainly does Roz, sure a fair few of those caught wish they'd just said no ;-)
jon357 66 | 16,960
7 Aug 2017 #46
Just asking for trouble really

Yes, it's potentially very risky. There are certainly undercover police in nightclubs in some places and although Poland is quite laissez-faire in some ways, he could be very unlucky.
johnny reb 28 | 5,248
7 Aug 2017 #47
Or simply acknowledge that some people will use them, that criminalisation hasn't worked,

Criminalization for bank robber hasn't worked either so simply acknowledge that some people will do it is your rational.
My rational is that I am not going to suggest that bank robbers should go to a country with the most lenient laws for bank robbery to encourage them like you did with your cocaine encouragement.

Isn't our job as older men to teach younger men right from wrong ?
Isn't a vacation for getting away from your normal routine to relax ?
Cocaine sure the hell isn't a drug of choice that the OP is looking for to make one relax plus illegal drug use is wrong.

You jon are just playing the devil's advocate knowing damn well if the OP got caught with cocaine in Poland that it is going to ruin a part of his life.

stop trying to project American hyper-sensitivity onto Europeans.

Quit trying to run my life and go jump in the nearest lake.
More like you three non Polish Europeans projecting your ilk on Poland and America.
This is an American run forum about Poland so if you don't like it stick to ATP.

focus on the topic please
jon357 66 | 16,960
7 Aug 2017 #48
Criminalization for bank robber hasn't worked either

Actually, it has worked rather well.

Isn't our job as older men to teach younger men right from wrong ?

No, it isn't.

There are plenty of drugs in Warsaw and it should be possible to talk about this neutrally and without moralising. There are many issues around drug policy, and a whole range of opinions about this. The OP didn't ask whether or not a given substance should be illegal - that is a seperate question. He asked where he can find a given substance.

Having said that, if he needs to come on here and ask, he probably isn't the right sort of person to score some without making a mess of it.

This is an American run forum about Poland

No it isn't.
johnny reb 28 | 5,248
7 Aug 2017 #49
Actually, it has worked rather well.

Then why are banks still being robbed ?

No, it isn't.

YES it most certainly is.
Just look at inter Chicago kids raised without a father role model for example.
jon, you are all wet with your progressive propaganda.

No it isn't.

Oh o.k., it's not.
I forgot, you Brits are running this forum. lol
jon357 66 | 16,960
7 Aug 2017 #50
Then why are banks still being robbed ?

Or more pertinently, why so few are being robbed nowadays.

Chicago kids

Fortunately in Europe we have a more developed social environment, a more joined-up response to social needs.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
7 Aug 2017 #51
There are plenty of drugs in Warsaw and it should be possible to talk about this neutrally and without moralising.

Speaking of which, a friend of mine was telling me that celebrities in Poland have finally caught up with the excesses of the late 1990's/early 2000's in London and are behaving in an entirely similar way. Coke seems to be very much the drug du jour among the Warsaw jetset these days.
johnny reb 28 | 5,248
7 Aug 2017 #52
it should be possible to talk about this neutrally and without moralising.

Because if it was talked about by moralizing you would be lost.
You know that cocaine use is very destructive to a persons body, mind, family, business, finances, arrest and on and on.
There is no room to be neutral on encouraging cocaine use as you have done.
johnny reb 28 | 5,248
7 Aug 2017 #53
in Europe we have a more developed social environment, a more joined-up response to social needs.

BALONY !
The kids in the U.S.A. have many many more activities available to them then the European children by far.
Here we go again, a liberals mind never changes, the ony thing a liberal changes is the subject.
Now get your ass back on topic.
jon357 66 | 16,960
7 Aug 2017 #54
moralizing

Why moralise?

activities

Activities?

If a poster wants to buy, he'll buy. Most important is that he doesn't get ripped off or busted.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,539
7 Aug 2017 #55
Why moralise?

Because those that don't do sh#t like the holocaust
jon357 66 | 16,960
7 Aug 2017 #56
Because those

Those that did:

sh#t like the holocaust

moralised far more than even your average Daily Mail reading fishwife.

With substance use, whether alcohol, weed, ching, whatever, taking a judgemental approach has only ever worsened the situation.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
7 Aug 2017 #57
With substance use, whether alcohol, weed, ching, whatever, taking a judgemental approach has only ever worsened the situation.

With weed in particular, it's far more effective to talk to the consumers to find out about the supply chain. There's little to no sense in busting someone for personal use of the stuff.
jon357 66 | 16,960
7 Aug 2017 #58
And keep organised crime out of the loop - something almost impossible to do in PL where Prohibition exists.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,539
7 Aug 2017 #59
, taking a judgemental approach

Who was talking judgemental I was talking morals which you seem to be lacking.

The OP already stated "You guys are right - staying clean is the best. Thanks" but you continue to give advice as to where to purchase and seem to be extolling the virtues of drug abuse.

in the op's responce "staying clean is the best. " he proved two things one he has a moral compass two he is a man.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
7 Aug 2017 #60
And keep organised crime out of the loop - something almost impossible to do in PL where Prohibition exists.

Yep, from what I gather, the supply of weed in the Czech Republic in particular is so decentralised that it's impossible for organised crime to get a hold of the supply there. In turn, there's no possibility for dealers to introduce the harder stuff.


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