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Climate change/environmental businesses or NGOs in Poland


auberopole 1 | 6
21 Nov 2009  #1
Hi all,

Any ideas what the market is like for sustainability, carbon management or environmental management organizations in Poland? I'm curious about both NGOs and consultancies, if possible in Krakow. I did a basic Google search and found nothing, but that's probably because I searched it in English.

Thanks guys!
Bzibzioh
21 Nov 2009  #2
Bit naive to be looking for a not-English teaching-job in Poland without speaking any Polish and without any local professional credentials, don't you think?
OP auberopole 1 | 6
21 Nov 2009  #3
Bzibzioh
I don't know anything about Poland yet, my partner was selected for an expat job only last week. So I was looking for some relevant advice.
Bzibzioh
21 Nov 2009  #4
The only REAL option is teaching English.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
21 Nov 2009  #5
I don't know anything about Poland yet, my partner was selected for an expat job only last week. So I was looking for some relevant advice.

The truth is that the vast majority of these jobs go to people that are connected. Virtually every expat in Poland either started out teaching English or was placed here by a company, or they had connections with people who got them the job.

My company can use our connections to investigate the market for you and to promote you in the right circles.
OP auberopole 1 | 6
21 Nov 2009  #6
Thanks for the inputs on the jobs side, appreciate it. I'm not purely interested for jobs though. I'd prefer to steer away from a jobs discussion, as I've seen many job related questions on these boards already and I figure the answers are much the same!

I will be more specific...

- To what extent do companies talk about energy efficiency, carbon emissions and environmental management? How is the market in corporate sustainability management in Poland?

- How big of an issue is climate change at political level? What kind of policies are in place or coming in (e.g. COP-15 stance, cap-and-trade, etc.)?

- What do the NGOs in environmental issues do, and are there many? Is it a small market or a large market, do they have trouble getting attention or trouble managing their huge workloads!?

- Are Polish citizens aware of their carbon footprints, aware of what they can do to reduce it and care to do something about it?

In other words, how established is Poland in going green...
KPrzybysz - | 5
22 Nov 2009  #7
You bring up some very interesting points. I've been interested in this as well. I wish I had answers for you but, unfortunately I do not.

I would recommend having a Polish friend do some word searches on the internet. There must be articles, publications, of some sort.

Good luck and post your findings.
OP auberopole 1 | 6
26 Nov 2009  #8
Thanks KPrzybysz. I'll do that and I'll post my findings here too. But to perhaps be more efficient, is there anyone here who has done that already? Or anyone willing to?
agatka131 1 | 20
5 Jan 2010  #9
Poland is not an energy efficient country, we as a nation do not care much for our carbon footprint and I don't think it's gonna change very quick. Poles care when it comes to the business that they can make money on it ( like wind farms recently- that's the topic you can ask me anything about). the same is with the political level- when it's about money we are environmental fiendly, when it's about fees- we cutting down carbon emissions. Not often people recycle rubbish or save water or energy, it's sad but I would say that if they do it's more for a money saving reasons than environment. Climate change and environment are just slogans nowadays, behind which ones companies make huge money not a plan for saving our planet.

I would like to see it changes, I guess young people and children are more aware and can see bigger picture better than older generation. What is a hope for the country where over 80% energy produced comes from heavy old coal industrial plants? We try to participate in Clean Development Mechanisms but we simply can not afford it. The only reason we build wind farms are subsidies and prize for green certificates which make them profitable. The only reason we have just few biogas stations here while our neighbours- Germany have hundreds its a lack of subsidies and regulations.

Anyway, I don't know which country you come from, I assume is UK? I had lived there for few years ( and studied sustainable energy systems :) ) and I noticed how much people are sensitive about switching off tv over night, using more bikes than cars, stop buying food in plastic, getting more local products than ones from overseas. It will not have much chance to happen in Poland because the situation here never got to such a bad state than in reacher countries, we always tried to do all the above things,just for the different reasons!
johnny reb 16 | 3,433
18 Apr 2016  #10
What is a hope for the country where over 80% energy produced comes from heavy old coal industrial plants?

General Electric (GE) Global Research has just announced the development of a prototype turbine which converts carbon dioxide into electricity.
Amazingly the size of the turbine is about the size of a desk which the inventors say could actually power a town of 10,000 homes.
This sounds really promising given that this innovation has the potential to help solve two critical issues of the modern world, CO2 pollution and energy crisis at the same time.

Wroclaw Boy can now sleep at night knowing there is hope.
I wonder what the price tag is on them.
Szalawa 3 | 248
18 Apr 2016  #11
General Electric (GE) Global Research has just announced the development of a prototype turbine which converts carbon dioxide into electricity

Apparently it runs on heating compressed CO2 called dry ice, with the help of solar panels to heat the dry ice back to its gaseous state, it spins the turbine more efficiently then steam based systems. This does look promising

iflscience.com/technology/new-prototype-desktop-turbine-could-power-10000-homes
johnny reb 16 | 3,433
18 Apr 2016  #12
Any ideas what the market is like for sustainability, carbon management or environmental management organizations in Poland?

A product like this would be major for a country like Poland to pick up on and run with.
Refine it's technology and manufacture it or patent something similar to it.
Slavictor 7 | 195
18 Apr 2018  #13
Merged:

The number of Foreign NGO's in Poland



Are there a large number of Foreign NGO's operating in Poland right now? Suppose a person wanted to go work for George Soros' Open Society, would someone living in Poland be able to find such an organization?
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
18 Apr 2018  #14
There are quite a few. One of largest and most popular polish ngo thats affiliated with soros They regularly have marketing campaign asking poles to donate 1% of income and trick polish people its for culture and helping kids when its just another 'open society' group made and founded by soros. Naturally they are politicized - theyre firmly against pis and conservative polish society.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
18 Apr 2018  #15
Are there a large number of Foreign NGO's operating in Poland right now?

They need to be registered in Poland in order to operate here, so they can't be "foreign" by nature. The fact that you're using the term "Foreign NGO" (which is what they're called in Turkey and Russia) betrays your real origins.

There are, however, a growing number of unregistered "churches" run by suspicious characters.
johnny reb 16 | 3,433
18 Apr 2018  #16
Did you register with Poland to spread the word about homosexuality when you came to Poland delph ?

You are brave delph, if I was gay there is no way I would live in Poland, fair play to you breaking new ground.

Johnny took forever to catch on, but actually, most of us are employed by a UK NGO to spread the word here. I'm a relatively new recruit.

Does Poland now have NGO's that promote homosexuality ?

The problem is that with this government, people may be less willing to admit to homosexual encounters due to the homophobia in society.

I don't think it is homophobia as much as it is what a Christian Country calls sin.
Just exactly what is a NGO and who finances them ?
So what is the number of NGO's now operating in Poland ?
Does anyone know ?
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
18 Apr 2018  #17
There are pro lgbt ngos in polamd as well as ngos for migrants, jailbirds, homeless, pregnant women who want abortion, etc. Prior to pis the soros eu leaning ones got a lot of support from government/tax revenues. The government has cut the funding to many of the ngos who it does mot agree with, those that have become far too involved in politics or push an agenda most polish citizens disagree with, etc. Hungary is now leading the fight against subversive ngos. Poland has done a lot to stop certain soros ngos that are in conflict with the ideals in polish constitution and laws.

There's now a body that regulates government funding for ngos. Naturally the soros ngos are crying because theyd much rather have money come from polish taxpayers than ask uncle soros. Atleast now polish taxpayers can rest assured that their money wont be going towards pro lgbt pro migrant agendas which the majority of poles disagree with. If such ngos wish to continue functioning theyll have to obtain funding from other sources and report it. Sounds fair to me but the left complains because they want the citizenry to pay for the spread of their agendas.
CasualObserver
19 Apr 2018  #18
I don't think it is homophobia as much as it is what a Christian Country calls sin.

A Christian country like Spain or Ireland?

Gay marriage is legal in those countries. Ireland has a gay Prime Minister.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
19 Apr 2018  #19
In Poland the institute of marraige is protected by the constitution. There are legal partnerships with basically all the same rights and priveledges as a marraige, but it is not labeled a marraige as that is strictly between man and woman. A fair compromise imo. In order to allow for gay marraige, the constitution would need to be changed. Seeing as how various stats point out that the majority of poles are against gay marraige, the eon old institute of marraige which can only involve man and woman will remain for the foreseeable future. If other countrys want to destroy the sanctity of marraige fine, but Poles do not.
CasualObserver
19 Apr 2018  #20
So you'd accept it if Poles voted for gay marriage in a referendum, as in Ireland?

civil unions are not a fair compromise, really, as marriage comes with tax and inheritance perks. It's not about the ceremony and a church - many people don't care about that. It's about having the same rights. As long as marriage has legal and financial perks, then it discriminates against people who love each other and want to share their lives in the same way. That's no compromise.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
19 Apr 2018  #21
Well to the majority of Polish citizens it is fair and they do not wish to make gay marraige equal to hetero marraige as most poles do not view these unions as equal since it is not a natural union between man and women, the constitution's definition of marraige, hence they are treated differently. IF in fact Poles decided to vote on a change and it passed yes id accept the results thats what a democracy is. I wouldn't support it but if that's the wish of the majority of my countrymen so be it. However, seeing as Poles do not have a favorable opinion of gay marraige it is unlikely such a change would happen.

Gays can go elsewhere to get married. Polish constitution protects marraige as a institution solely between man and woman. Poles dont wish to change that to accommodate the 1% or 2% of society that engages in disgusting sexual acts. Poles arent interested in making abominations main stream - thats for the West and places like us germany france etc. There is a famous saying - tu jest polska nie brussels, tu sie pedalowania nie popiera meaning tbis is poland, not brussels faggotry is not supported here (rhymes in polish)
CasualObserver
19 Apr 2018  #22
I really, REALLY hope that a child of yours comes to tell you that they're gay. It will be very good for your personal growth.

There's a saying in English too - 'the lady doth protest too much'. It often applies to those people who are so vitriolic against gays that it suggests they're trying to suppress some tendency within themselves that they find uncomfortable.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
19 Apr 2018  #23
I really, REALLY hope that a child of yours comes to tell you that they're gay.

I'll take my 98-99% chance that they won't be. Plus I won't raise them on MTV, CNN, have them watch garbage about 'genderless' movie awards (because apparently now men's and women's categories for best actor, director, etc is sexist and unfair to 'non binary' people - FTS!) and have teachers teaching reading them books about such topics before they've even gotten close to hitting puberty. And actually I wouldn't care if my kid was gay as long as they're not flaming and act like attention seeking ****** or walk around half naked in some sort of pervert parade. If they act and dress like most of society does I wouldn't care and the few gay friends I do have are like that. They know my position on gay marriage. What people do in private is up to them - but to publicize it, force it down kids' throats, have 98%+ of society change its laws to accommodate people because of some sex acts that a tiny percent do - no I won't agree to that. It's a slippery slope and before long we'll have the denigration of society running rampant like a woman marrying dead pirates in the UK and foolish masses being turned into mindless consumers with no will, no purpose, no pride in their culture, county, etc. e..g. MTV and the recent movie awards...

t often applies to those people who are so vitriolic against gays

I didn't write anything that's really bad above - I wrote what the situation in Poland is like as it was a topic discussed namely pro-lgbt.. And I wrote that if Poles decided to change it I'd accept that - thankfully Poles don't want to do that and act/think a certain way that's much different from the west.... even the more 'liberal' Poles are nothing like the Marxist ones in US...

And **** soros all day long.... EU/Europe is in the most precarious place it's been in it's history since probably WW2 or at least the Yugo wars. Even the French are saying there's a sort of 'civil war' going.
CasualObserver
19 Apr 2018  #24
I'll take my 98-99% chance that they won't be. Plus I won't raise them on MTV, CNN, have them watch garbage about 'genderless' movie awards

It's probably more like a 5-10% chance, if you believe the statistics (which I'm guessing soemone like you doesn't, unless they happen to support your view).

So you think homosexuality is cultural, then, eh? Rather than biological? It can't be cultural if homosexuality is present in every single culture and population...

Which means you'd be repressing your kid's own nature, trying to culturally impose your own sexuality onto them. Tough love, Dude!
Maybe just learn to accept people for what they are, and accept that adult love is the same for everyone, whatever form it takes? Why should you care who your neighbour or son likes to bone? Afraid you might be 'infected' and your own hidden tendencies might bubble to the surface? That's what many social liberals suspect of those who say things like:

brussels faggotry

Which I'm afraid is quite "bad", despite your protestations. It's hate speech.

The EU 'civil war' is about authoritarianism and the rule of law, and a free society. It's not about gays or Soros. It's about states apeing the Cmommie playbook by capturing and owning the media, the courts and the state institutions, so that a guy cannot live a free life without toeing the party line, greasing the party palms, and indulging party leader in his grief-stricken conspiracy theories about planes and bombs.

But you live in the USA, where you have all of those freedoms, so what do you care what's inflicted on Europeans?
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
20 Apr 2018  #25
Repressing their nature? **** that if they're dressed like a freakin' fairy or the opposite gender or act like something out of Peten Pan they screw em. They can either change into normal clothing and act like a normal civilized person without a fruity lisp and not act like a fairy in Peter Pan or stay at home till their 18 and then they can leave if they wish.

o what do you care what's inflicted on Europeans?@ CasualObserver

Because I am a European by blood, citizenship, language, culture, etc. A nation is not some abstract object. It is the citizens and their land - blood and soil. I'd hate for my motherland to be turned into a place like Germany, Sweden, etc. that's why I am vocal about these things. The EU was wracked by liberalism in many places but thankfully where I live its nothing like California or Cook Co. And fyi most Poles agree with the stance of gay marriage, migrants, etc. hence why the society is the way it is....The question is more why did you purposely move to a country where the majority of society do not follow your views....

It's about states apeing the Cmommie playbook

Kind of like how the EU copied the USSR's constitution?

It's hate speech.

Free speech... and 'pedal' is not considered hate speech in Poland either. Most Poles don't like 'pedaly' in Poland... They are regularly taunted and made fun of - that's why even gay people there don't dress like fairies...
CasualObserver
20 Apr 2018  #26
A nation is not some abstract object. It is the citizens and their land - blood and soil.

Interesting. So how do you account for Poland's duzzying shifting borders over the years? If it's about soil, then the German born in Breslau and Danzig in 1938 were actually Poles, right? Cos they were nurtured by what is now Polish soil, so they were born on Polish soil, and they weren't Germans at all, and should never have been expelled? Similarly, the Poles born in Lviv in 1938 weren't actually Polish, because it's not Polish soil?

Or is it that Wroclaw is not actually Polish soil, and so Poles born there since 1945 are not actually Polish?

I'm just curious how you think that a patch of soil can change the ethnic allegiance of the people born upon it, along with shifting political borders?

Because, you see, countries ARE abstract. They come and go. They are just a state of mind, not carved by tectonic plates. Mountains don;t change much, lines on maps do, so they are inherently abstract.

The country you grew up in, the USA, is only a few hundred years old - there are trees alive that are older than that. And when those trees were seedlings, there was a Native American spouting the same claptrap as you about 'blood and soil', in the exactly the same place that you're sat now.

There was a time before a Poland, there wiull be a time after a Poland. It is an abstract human concept, not a physical geographical reality.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
20 Apr 2018  #27
I also speak Spanish and lived in Mexico, does that make me a Mexican?

At the end of the day im a fully polish by blood, culture, speak polish, have a polish name, and have polish citizenry. Do you? Nope.

And yes one day poland won't exist the world wont but while I'm alive im going to believe in 'Bog Honor Ojczyzna.' And take a look at a map it is a physical reality that you can touch, see, smell not something imaginary as i leftists heads no matter how hard the eu tries.

I could not be happier that the largest independence marches in Europe are in my own motherland and how Poles are standing up for their society, their dignity and rejecting the multikulti migrant pro lgbt garbage of the eu.

Actually id just send the kids here, much better have them running around getting exercise cleaning a rifle and learning about slavic history and culture than letting msm melt their brain

youtu.be/jiBXmbkwiSw

Hail Azov!
CasualObserver
20 Apr 2018  #28
I also speak Spanish and lived in Mexico, does that make me a Mexican?

In the sense that mexicans are also North Americans - yes, it does, hombre.

At the end of the day im a fully polish by blood, culture, speak polish, have a polish name, and have polish citizenry. Do you? Nope.

...but you live in America, another continent. Do I? Nope! You can train a dog to do anything - it's still a dog looking for a home. And you're one lost little doggy!
Slavictor 7 | 195
20 Apr 2018  #29
Foreign NGO

The Red Cross is of foreign origin. It operates in many countries. A Polish NGO in this country would be considered foreign. Foreign NGO's operate with permission inside countries. Not all NGO's are registered as foreign agents.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
20 Apr 2018  #30
Lol lost dog? That's funny coming from an LBH in a foreign land where he cannot speak the language, is not a citizen, cannot understand what people are saying to him, much less understand the nuances of Polish society which are opposite of his own ideology... But yup youre more of an expert than a polish citizen even though you can't even speak the language. Riiiight... Good one.

And fyi i do have a home in poland. If you know anything about polamd youd know poles dont need a physical homeland to be polish. What is the first line or the national anthem? Jeszcze Polska nie zginela do poki my zyjemy. But you wouldn't understand that, seeing as you sont know polish so ill translate it - poland is not lost as long as we are alive.... so as you can see a pole does not have to be in poland to feel polish, that does not matter in polish society as exemplified by our own anthem. Nonetheless, we prefer to have our land for our people, blood and soil, and protect it as such - even if it's from afar as tgere are more poles around the world than in poland itself


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