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chaza  50 | 253
9 Jan 2010   #1
what is the meaning of the endings 'ucha' would i be right in saying they are diminutives of the word. examples please.

chaza


Lenka  6 | 3676
9 Jan 2010   #2
No it's not diminutive.It's cases:
Mianownik:ucho
Dopełniacz:ucha
Celownik:uchu
Biernik:ucho
Narzędnik:uchem
Miejscownik:uchu
The diminutive form would be f.e:
uszko,uszeczko e.t.c.


OP chaza  50 | 253
9 Jan 2010   #3
no sorry dont understand can you exspand please chaza


Lenka  6 | 3676
9 Jan 2010   #4
In polish you have 7 cases.You have to check witch one to use when you want to say something grammatically correct.
Mianownik:To jest ucho-it's the ear
Dopełniacz:Temu pomnikowi brakuje ucha-this sculpture is missing the ear
Celownik:Czemu się tak przyglądasz?Twojemu uchu.-What are you looking at?At your ear.
Biernik:Co widzisz?Ucho.What can you see?Ear.
Narzędnik:Co cię boli?Mam problem z uchem.-What's wrong with you?I've problem with my ear.
Miejscownik:O czym rozmawiacie?O moim uchu-What are you talking about?About my ear.
If it's not enough let me know I'll try to explain it differently or maybe someone else is a better teacher:D

I almost forgot about one more thing:
Some people(poor educated or making a joke)use the word "ucha" for plural form(ears?)but it's not correct.


strzyga  2 | 990
9 Jan 2010   #5
Some people(poor educated or making a joke)use the word "ucha" for plural form(ears?)but it's not correct.

It's correct when meaning not human or animal ears but e.g. pot handles, in the same way as "oka" is correct for the fat floating on the surface of broth.


Lenka  6 | 3676
9 Jan 2010   #6
You are right-another thing that I forgot to mention.


Ziemowit  14 | 3942
9 Jan 2010   #7
Please notice that the contemporary double forms: uszy-ucha or oczy-oka are traces of the old dual number forms in Polish:

jedno ucho - dwie uszy - trzy, cztery etc. ucha;
jedno oko - dwie oczy - trzy, cztery etc. oka.


SzwedwPolsce  11 | 1589
10 Jan 2010   #8
It's the genitive form of ucho (ear).


z_darius  14 | 3960
10 Jan 2010   #9
Lots of good answers but none addressing the question: it is about the ending "-ucha", not about a part of human body.

As a suffixe, it is an opposite of diminutive but not necessarily derogative.
For instance:

pietruszka - pietrucha (carrot - big carrot)
Zadzwon to Darka - Zadzwon do Darucha (call Darek - call Darek. This, confusingly, sounds diminutive)


f stop  24 | 2493
10 Jan 2010   #10
to me, most of the time it does add a slight derogatory slant.
for example:
stara - starucha
does not mean a big old lady, just not a nice old lady. Staruszka implies a nice old lady. Polish dimunitives imply affection.

I guess -ucha it would be an opposite of dimunitive.. whatever that word is.


strzyga  2 | 990
10 Jan 2010   #11
it is about the ending "-ucha", not about a part of human body.

are you sure? this came to my mind too, but Chaza asked about endings and not ending, so...

pietruszka - pietrucha (carrot - big carrot)

I think you meant parsley


OP chaza  50 | 253
10 Jan 2010   #12
thanks guys, yes it was the endings not the ear, so its augmenative i think is the word.
is that right, would you not use 'its abig carrot instead of the ucha ending, so as maybe not to oddend anyone.

chaza


z_darius  14 | 3960
10 Jan 2010   #13
to me, most of the time it does add a slight derogatory slant.
for example:

Frankly, I have not idea about the usage stats, but you are right. The -ucha ending tends to point to something rather derogatory (dziewczyna - dziewucha) but, like with real estate, it's all about location, location, location i.e. context:

For instance:

Derogatory:

(if I don't like parsley, looking into a bowl of soup): Znowu pietrucha!/Damn it, parsley again!

Not derogatory
(shopping on the produce department) Ale pietrucha!/What a big parsley (root)!

Not derogatory among friends:
Zadzwonie do Darucha (I'll call Darek) could indicate a degree of intimacy/friendliness.

I think you meant parsley

oopsie, you're right

would you not use 'its abig carrot instead of the ucha ending, so as maybe not to oddend anyone.

Not sure it works like that.
Sometimes you do want to offend. Sometimes you want to use a certain style and not offend. I guess this particular topic is pretty hectic and somewhat peripheral (as in not so critical) and not all nouns would lend themselves to its application. The usage of -ucha may as well be one of the best tests of the speaker's fluency in Polish :)


OP chaza  50 | 253
10 Jan 2010   #14
so its best i just forget about this ending as it doesnt really matter that much.


SzwedwPolsce  11 | 1589
10 Jan 2010   #15
Start with the basic knowledge.


OP chaza  50 | 253
10 Jan 2010   #16
i am starting the basics, but as i learn i encounter issues that i would like made clear. as i learn the basics which are hard enough, bits like these add to the confusion. but thanks anyway.

chaza


piaskowy  - | 13
10 Jan 2010   #17
Erm, there is something you should know about words 'ucho' and 'oko'.

There are actually four words:
- 'ucho' which means 'an ear' (plular 'uszy'),
- 'ucho' which means 'a handle' (plular 'ucha'),
- 'oko' - 'an eye' (plular 'oczy'),
- 'oko' that reffers to some fat "floating" on a surface of a soup (here's a picture -
digart.img.digart.pl/data/img/vol2/79/38/download/3643574.jpg plular 'oka'.


Michal  - | 1865
10 Jan 2010   #18
chaza
No, it is not a diminutive because there is a Polish word mucha, which means a fly. The word ucho does mean an ear, if that is what you were originally talking about but I imagine there are a lot of words ending in ucha.

An oko is a mesh and has the plural oka but when meaning eyes the plural is oczy as has been explained above.


pawian  226 | 27211
1 May 2021   #19
The -ucha ending tends to point to something rather derogatory

Not so much. It is simply colloquial. Kapucha instead of kapusta - like tatties instead of potatoes. Cabby vs cabbage Co tu tak wali kapuchą? What`s that cabby odor here?


Lyzko  48 | 10632
1 May 2021   #20
Or how about "klamucha" for " f-## liar"


Lenka  6 | 3676
2 May 2021   #21
" f-## liar"

It is just liar :)


mafketis  46 | 12385
2 May 2021   #22
Not so much. It is simply colloquial.

It used to be _extremely_ common among students...


Lyzko  48 | 10632
2 May 2021   #23
Thanks, Lenka.


Ron2
14 Jul 2026   #24
Back in the day, Polonia guys in the US used to say something like: Przyniosę dwa ucha na imieniny. They meant they would bring two 1 gallon containers of vodka on the names day or birthday. "Ucho" = "big 1 gallon glass container"


coto
14 Jul 2026   #25
imieniny. means the day you were named not your brithday, big dif,


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
14 Jul 2026   #26
Yes, that's a difference between Poland and, say, the US. Naming days are typically named after saints.


Przelotnyptak1  1 | 1242
14 Jul 2026   #27
Some people(poor educated or making a joke)use the word "ucha" for plural form(ears?)but it's not..

Lenka It is possible that you misunderstood the meaning of his question
I imagine there are a lot of words ending in ucha.

The way I understand the question he is asking for the meaning of the ending of the word, not the ending of the sentence, as an example dziewUCHA
instead dziewczyna. The key is the ending of the WORD not the end of the sentence.


mafketis  46 | 12385
14 Jul 2026   #28
imieniny. means the day you were named not your brithday

Actually, it's a day associated with your given name. Where I am, public buses list the names for the day (newspapers used to list those too). Some given names have several days throughout the year and a person can pick which one they want. IINM traditionally a person would pick the one closest after their birthday.


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
14 Jul 2026   #29
...or klamUCHA, masculine.


Alien  31 | 8030
14 Jul 2026   #30
klamUCHA,

kłamczucha...





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