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Joined: 13 Nov 2007 / Male ♂ 		Last Post: 3 Jan 2011
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MrBubbles   
3 Jan 2011
Law / Got Polish citizenship, now I need a Pesel and passport [26]

s MrBubbles says, they are all barstards and go out of their way to NOT help.

amen.

Urzad Miasta (or whatever it's called in Warsaw) will issue it if you're registered in Poland.

But you need to be registered to stay anywhere in Poland, surely. If Kay is living in Warsaw, she should have zameldowanie, and her local USC / delegatura should issue the appropriate documents. I too had to go back and forth between offices until they acknowledged this.

Kay, best get it done in Australia - I'm sure you'll have more success.
MrBubbles   
31 Dec 2010
Law / Got Polish citizenship, now I need a Pesel and passport [26]

One would never believe to trouble I have had!

Oh I'm sure one would....

From what I can remember, you can get your passport through the consulate who processed your citizenship. If not, you have to go to the passport office in Warsaw.

My PESEL was eventually awarded by the USC (Urzad Stanu Cywilnego). I had to provide the documentation from the other offices I went to - I think it was proof of registration (zameldowania) from the local delegatura, a letter from the president confirming my citizenship and maybe something else from the passport office.

Sorry I can't be more help - the people in the offices are bastards and they look for any reason to get out of helping you. If you have some spare time, this looks possibly helpful - it has the address of the Warsaw USC if nothing else transparent.com/polish/tag/urzad-stanu-cywilnego/

Otherwise, it might actually be worth checking out out one of those private immigration firms - I think they will handle all the paperwork for you.
MrBubbles   
31 Dec 2010
UK, Ireland / I worry about the Poles working in the UK [77]

Should they stay, even if they are nothing but a disposable pool of labour? In Poland now they won't be treated otherwise.

I suppose it would depend on the individual. I know some Poles working as consultants in the NHS who are obviously needed by the country and would be difficult to replace. Then again, I know others who are in low paid factory jobs which could be done by local British workers. Some of them would probably be better off moving to Germany for example and finding work there but it might be difficult for others who have started families. What do you reckon? Should they stick it out and wait for the upturn?
MrBubbles   
31 Dec 2010
UK, Ireland / I worry about the Poles working in the UK [77]

Should they now go back home?

Whether or not they go home will be based on how well they have assimilated into British society, whether they have employment and so on. I'm not saying they should or shouldn't.
MrBubbles   
31 Dec 2010
UK, Ireland / I worry about the Poles working in the UK [77]

What good does shrinking the economy do?

Good question! The only benefit of mass unemployment I can see is for large business owners, who gain a large disposable pool of labour who are willing to put up with low salaries and poor conditions (the function Poles have been serving for the past couple of years). However, in the long run, nobody can buy products and services and the economy stalls.
MrBubbles   
31 Dec 2010
UK, Ireland / I worry about the Poles working in the UK [77]

Come on you slimey little fcuk get back here. What you think you can just abuse people and then go running off like a little puz$y.

Sorry had to go and meet friends, do some odds and ends with the wife. You know - guy stuff. How was the evening on the internet?

(Britain is a fundamentally racist society) Like most other societies.

True. I didn't want to single out Britain as the only racist society but you'll find discrimination everywhere and the UK is not immune to it. The best selling newspaper is the Daily Mail, the BNP was winning seats in local government recently and it wasn't too long ago that you could watch shows like the Black and White minstrel show and Bless this house on nationwide TV - look for the episodes on youtube and there'll be a dozen people commenting that it was a shame they were taken off the air because everyone, including black people, found them funny.

Back to YOUR thread again.

OK OK. The point is that Poles and other migrant workers are probably going to get treated more roughly (through harrassment, ostracism, possible violence) by the local people as conditions worsen. This happens in every country to all national / ethnic groups.
MrBubbles   
30 Dec 2010
UK, Ireland / I worry about the Poles working in the UK [77]

Foreigners have been coming to our island and settling for decades

And you are telling me that all the 'Pakis out' style graffitti and NF / EDL marchs are simply the way inner city people extend their hand to foreigners? You are in denial. Britain is a fundamentally racist society and has been for centuries. The only reason you've never noticed is because you haven't been the minority - Although it is a sad comment on British society if you represent the norm.
MrBubbles   
30 Dec 2010
UK, Ireland / I worry about the Poles working in the UK [77]

If i was 60 numb nuts, fact is im not. What kind of idiot am i talking to here?

Oh I remember you now - you're the one on the steroids, aren't you? Look, just ask your carer to write to the Inland Revenue when you're not 'roid raging and they will explain it to you.

You think the mob will just target Poles?

No, but the Poles are probably the largest homogenous segment of migrant labour so they'll get most of the bile. Also, ask whoever looks after you to reread the section I wrote about the govt pushing through new legislation.
MrBubbles   
30 Dec 2010
UK, Ireland / I worry about the Poles working in the UK [77]

employers here (in Northern Island) giving foreign workers jobs instead of their own people

What home grown industries exist in NI? One of the big problems with Ireland is that they can't get their own act together and rely on selling cheap labour to multinationals. Oh yes - the Irish have played the undercutting game as well...

There have been times when i was entitled but never bothered about it

Hang on a sec I'll get you a medal

A few years left to make that up.

Don't worry. You have something like 5 or 6 years to make up the shortfall.

If you're so worried you should worry about the locals getting a job

I'm worried about unemployment and poverty causing dissatisfaction amongst an uneducated working class that boils over into migrant bashing and draconian laws cutting back further on civil liberties. Even now the police are asking the govt for more powers to stop and search anyone they want. Wait and see, Pennboy. Wait and see
MrBubbles   
30 Dec 2010
UK, Ireland / I worry about the Poles working in the UK [77]

Care to elaborate? Going to be tough for everyone not just foreigner's

Wait and see. Migrant labourers are always the first to get scapegoated for the government's mistakes. Expect anti-migrant discourse to be ramped up as the conditions get worse.

get a job polacks

They have, duh.

what percentage of those who came to the UK did go back?

Seasonal workers, duh.
MrBubbles   
29 Dec 2010
UK, Ireland / I worry about the Poles working in the UK [77]

Things are going to get rough in the UK over the next couple of years. The Tories have slashed public sector jobs and the private sector is probably not going to soak them up, leading to higher unemployment. VAT is set to rise too. However, benefits are probably going to be cut.

Not a good time to be a foreigner working in the UK.
MrBubbles   
27 Dec 2010
History / Poland in a Slavic Union/Alliance/Federation? [335]

There would be no "linguistic dead end", as Slavic elites would
also know English (and other modern languages)...There's no reason
for us to speak to one another in English or French, when we can use an inter-Slavic
language, and in that way honour our unique heritage and culture.

You are going to honour your heritage and culture by inventing a new language which 10 people will speak to each other when they get together round the dinner table every year to play Dungeons and Dragons? Sounds really cool. Will you have a secret handshake too which only 5 people will know?

I see you modestly include yourself within the secret circle of the slavic elite.
MrBubbles   
27 Dec 2010
History / Poland in a Slavic Union/Alliance/Federation? [335]

English is the international language of commerce and academia precisely
because of its primitivism (or, I should rather say, simplicity)

I hate to break it to you but older, more 'primitive', languages tend towards greater inflection - Latin is a classic. English in that sense is more 'modern' than Polish. As is this 'Slovio' which nobody speaks apart from a handful of fruit and nut jobs in linguistics departments.

Slavic elites

What are they going to do after backing themselves into a linguistic dead end? Sell amber to the Romans? Trade with the orient for spices? Maybe open links with the Americas for cotton? Pah
MrBubbles   
26 Dec 2010
History / Poland in a Slavic Union/Alliance/Federation? [335]

this vulgar, peasant language, we (Slavs) are all more or less forced to learn it for
economic or academic purposes

The peasant language used for world commerce and academia? I see.

Peasants will always learn English as a foreign language, because of economic reasons. Elites, on the other hand, can learn different Slavic languages or some artificial inter-Slavic language and use it to communicate with one another.

Oh sorry. Now I know you're pulling my leg - I thought you were serious for a while there! So, elites within the Slavic group will use a Slavic lingua franca to communicate with other Slavic speakers - How absurd! As if they have something more to sell than prnography and cheap cars! And the rest of the world can stuff off eh? Comedy gold!
MrBubbles   
26 Dec 2010
Language / Slovio - the international simplified Slavic language [37]

The word, signifier is there that means something is signified.

I'm sure in the virtual kitchen of your mind there are also unicorns and goblins helping with the dishes but it doesn't mean I can ask them to chop my vegetables. Similarly, there is nothing real that distinguishes 'slavs' from 'the rest of the world. Slavic languages share some features as do some people who speak them but there is no slavic race or people these days.

R1a1 Y DNA haplogroup

Sorry, you're saying there's a Slavic gene?
MrBubbles   
26 Dec 2010
History / Poland in a Slavic Union/Alliance/Federation? [335]

if every Slav spoke two Slavic languages from different geographical
groups, the communication would become almost as easy as with Slovio

Or they could just learn English - wouldn't that be a better idea?
MrBubbles   
26 Dec 2010
Language / Slovio - the international simplified Slavic language [37]

There are no Slavs. It isn't a race nor DNA-based group. There is no common history. There is no common civilization.

Spot on - it'll probably be ignored by the rest of the forum though
MrBubbles   
25 Dec 2010
History / Poland in a Slavic Union/Alliance/Federation? [335]

this region have a lot to offer to the world together

Apart from prn and cheap labour? Not a chance. Also, why would Russia need Poland for anything?

I imagine Slavic union as a black free,gay free community a counterbalance to Germanic influence.

Surely the other way round
MrBubbles   
15 Dec 2010
Law / I am married to a Polish citizen. How can I get residency? [36]

all your story lacks is a bit of bad english and an eternal love for a blue eyed kasia.

So apart from the fact that his English is good, he has residency in the states and doesn't display the hallmarks of a visa scammer, you say he is a visa scammer? Genius
MrBubbles   
12 Dec 2010
Work / If you were to compere Polish Unis and Unis/Colleges in your country... [75]

Note that Polish IT specialists are highly valued everywhere. I know many people who graduated such faculty (at public unis, not private which sucks) and they work around the world. So if you don't know something stop talking bs.

Maybe, but considering the huge demand for IT specialists at the moment, the typically uncreative nature of the job (perfect for Polish degrees) and the fact that most of the graduates spend all their leisure time playing with computers, it's not surpising is it? That and they charge half the price of graduates from the UK
MrBubbles   
5 Dec 2010
Work / If you were to compere Polish Unis and Unis/Colleges in your country... [75]

it took them from may to October ... they said they had wanted to employ me but didn't know how many students they were going to have

Yes, that sounds like bulsht on their part - more likely everyone was on holiday for the Summer.

Unfortunately unis in Polad are graded on the basis of research and publications rather than quality of teaching. Until that changes, there won't be any improvement for the students.
MrBubbles   
5 Dec 2010
Life / The Polish school? What's it like. [26]

When I was a kid in Poland I had chemistry, physics, botany, zoology, and biology in primary school

Well done! I'm sure you were exemplary in all of them.
MrBubbles   
5 Dec 2010
Life / The Polish school? What's it like. [26]

a situation where vast amounts of peope have "papers" but very little skill or ability for the real world.

Not to mention that they do something like 12 different subjects at high school. They get to university without any real depth of knowledge - the content is all memorised from lessons for exams, most of which of course is promptly forgotten.

Teachers have papers to correct, lessons to plan, parents to meet, teachers' conferences to attend, etc

The teachers I know do very little planning and I know for sure there isn't the same level of pastoral care / professional development required in the UK. If they are so busy, how come they find time to do private classes?
MrBubbles   
4 Dec 2010
Life / The Polish school? What's it like. [26]

Poland has the highest percentage of students getting to tertiary education in Europe and the lowest per capita spending. What do you reckon?
MrBubbles   
11 Aug 2010
Life / Cost of Living in Lodz [50]

You can easily live on 3000 a month - I know couples who are bringing a child up on that combined income. Your big expenditures will be from accommodation and maybe bills (although that depends on your landlord).

Water/phone/electricity/Internet is for sure another 1000 PLN.

A month? No way
MrBubbles   
5 Aug 2010
Law / Does anyone here know how to fill in a PIT/ZG form (earnings in Poland)? [5]

I'm trying to figure out how to complete a PIT/ZG for overseas earnings to go with my PIT-36.
pit.pl/att/deklaracje/2009/pit_zg_v3.pdf

I've been reading through a guide at pit.pl
pit.pl/jak_wpisac_w_pitzg_dochody_zagraniczne_pity_roczne_2007_3923.php
but I'm stuck at choosing the right field for my tax - one says 'according to art 27 ust 8' (column b), another is 'art 27 ust 9' (column c0 and the third is something along the lines of 'tax alread paid in connection with c'. Does anyone know where I can find a guide for this?

Thanks
MrB