Avalon
1 Jun 2011
Travel / Driving to Poland from England - any tips? [264]
You might want to PM me your e-mail address before you book your hotel.
You might want to PM me your e-mail address before you book your hotel.
Avalon
1 Jun 2011
Avalon
2 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
The only thing I would believe is the date on the report, even then, I would check that twice.
Saying that you had the money to do and buy these things is begging the government to put up taxes.
Take DVD players, what do expect Joe-public to say, "yes, I have one in the car, one on the computer, one with the television and oh yes, I forgot about the one in the kids bedroom".
Those kind of surveys are worthless, especially when you ask the generation that lived under communism, they might brag to friends or family but they certainly would not admit anything to the government.
the Polish national bureau of statistics publishes their findings
The only thing I would believe is the date on the report, even then, I would check that twice.
Saying that you had the money to do and buy these things is begging the government to put up taxes.
Take DVD players, what do expect Joe-public to say, "yes, I have one in the car, one on the computer, one with the television and oh yes, I forgot about the one in the kids bedroom".
Those kind of surveys are worthless, especially when you ask the generation that lived under communism, they might brag to friends or family but they certainly would not admit anything to the government.
Avalon
3 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
So if your employer asks you if you feel that your monthly salary is overgenerous, you say yes?
So if your employer asks you if you feel that your monthly salary is overgenerous, you say yes?
Avalon
3 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
Come on then Mark, explain how the government is going to solve the housing problem. I could do with a laugh.
According to your previous posts, there are too many houses/flats, the market is saturated with unsold properties. Are you advocating that the government seizes them from their owners and gives them to people like you for nothing?
if the government don't start governing the country and dealing with the main issues like housing and wages.
Come on then Mark, explain how the government is going to solve the housing problem. I could do with a laugh.
According to your previous posts, there are too many houses/flats, the market is saturated with unsold properties. Are you advocating that the government seizes them from their owners and gives them to people like you for nothing?
Avalon
3 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
Interesting theory, so lets say the reports were correct and prices did rise by 198% between 2004-2008. In the past 3 years we have seen a correction/reduction in prices of around 10%, you say that they will fall another 20%, so, overall a 30% decrease only leaves profit of 158% on any building acquired prior to 2004. You would think that people selling would be happy with such a profit, why not knock another 58% and be happy with a 100% profit.....ah....if only life was so simple.
The only way out is for the government to build social housing and rent to the poorer people who cannot afford to buy. To build and be able to offer homes at the rents the poor can afford would mean higher taxes which in turn will affect the people with mortgages who will be expected to subsidize said rents.
Meanwhile, the construction workers who will be building this new social housing will be happy to return to the wages they were paid prior to 2004 because there is no work in Poland.....ah if only life was so simple.
The drop you have suggested would have this effect in Poland.
I think it is the second scenario rather than the first one and the prices will eventually drop by some 20 per cent
Interesting theory, so lets say the reports were correct and prices did rise by 198% between 2004-2008. In the past 3 years we have seen a correction/reduction in prices of around 10%, you say that they will fall another 20%, so, overall a 30% decrease only leaves profit of 158% on any building acquired prior to 2004. You would think that people selling would be happy with such a profit, why not knock another 58% and be happy with a 100% profit.....ah....if only life was so simple.
The only way out is for the government to build social housing and rent to the poorer people who cannot afford to buy. To build and be able to offer homes at the rents the poor can afford would mean higher taxes which in turn will affect the people with mortgages who will be expected to subsidize said rents.
Meanwhile, the construction workers who will be building this new social housing will be happy to return to the wages they were paid prior to 2004 because there is no work in Poland.....ah if only life was so simple.
The drop you have suggested would have this effect in Poland.
Avalon
3 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
Wrong, Polish people are only interested in the price per m2 and they take their appliances with them when they move, I have seen places stripped out, kitchen, bathroom and lelectrical fittings.
You would.
If you really want to know how to make property more affordable for the poor or not so rich, its easy. Make all NEW BUILD exempt from VAT, price immeadiately goes down 8%. What about the lost income to the government?, no loss, more jobs would be created in construction, thus these workers will pay tax and ZUS and spend their money in Poland, to offset the VAT. Benefits to the government, unemployment would go down, defective housing stock would be replaced, more private investment, housing more affordable.
What a vote winner for the party with the cajones to put this in their election manifesto next year.
Simples.
If you invest in your house and get new windows and appliances, e.g., you fetch a better price. a kid knows that.
Wrong, Polish people are only interested in the price per m2 and they take their appliances with them when they move, I have seen places stripped out, kitchen, bathroom and lelectrical fittings.
I call it property bubble - so many people earned so much they had no idea what to do with the money but buying a property - I say the good percantage of that money must have been made in shady ways (or otherwise abroad)
You would.
If you really want to know how to make property more affordable for the poor or not so rich, its easy. Make all NEW BUILD exempt from VAT, price immeadiately goes down 8%. What about the lost income to the government?, no loss, more jobs would be created in construction, thus these workers will pay tax and ZUS and spend their money in Poland, to offset the VAT. Benefits to the government, unemployment would go down, defective housing stock would be replaced, more private investment, housing more affordable.
What a vote winner for the party with the cajones to put this in their election manifesto next year.
Simples.
Avalon
3 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
This is the only true thing you have ever said on this forum Mark, my business in the UK really took off when Maggiie was in power, she encouraged people to work hard and let them keep what they earnt with minimum interference.( I have always voted Tory and left the UK when the people on benefits voted Labour in for a second term ) I can understand why the concept of work is alien to you and why you still yearn for the socialist revolution, all your posts are directed towards the so called Utopia that "should" exist for people with no ambition and who think that eveyone owes them a living.
I do not speak Polish, but, I have worked here in Poland, invested and made money. If I can do it at the age of nearly 60, what is your excuse? I know you are mentally challenged but that should not stop you gaining physical employment or is that beneath you?
I have just bought some more land for a new project of 12 apartments, its not all about money Mark, I need to be doing something to feel useful and to contribute my skills here, both business and building, not spend all my time spamming forums under different alias's and criticising everything about my adopted country. Many things are wrong here but if you willing to work, most things are attainable.
Have you ever thought that your attitude might be the problem?
Don't forget this developer is a Thatcherite
This is the only true thing you have ever said on this forum Mark, my business in the UK really took off when Maggiie was in power, she encouraged people to work hard and let them keep what they earnt with minimum interference.( I have always voted Tory and left the UK when the people on benefits voted Labour in for a second term ) I can understand why the concept of work is alien to you and why you still yearn for the socialist revolution, all your posts are directed towards the so called Utopia that "should" exist for people with no ambition and who think that eveyone owes them a living.
I do not speak Polish, but, I have worked here in Poland, invested and made money. If I can do it at the age of nearly 60, what is your excuse? I know you are mentally challenged but that should not stop you gaining physical employment or is that beneath you?
I have just bought some more land for a new project of 12 apartments, its not all about money Mark, I need to be doing something to feel useful and to contribute my skills here, both business and building, not spend all my time spamming forums under different alias's and criticising everything about my adopted country. Many things are wrong here but if you willing to work, most things are attainable.
Have you ever thought that your attitude might be the problem?
Avalon
5 Jun 2011
Life / Driving across Poland (zigzag style) [15]
That lane is for Maluchs or so I was told when I first came to Poland.
An odd practice on Poliand's 2-lane highways is an added half-lane on either side
That lane is for Maluchs or so I was told when I first came to Poland.
Avalon
5 Jun 2011
Real Estate / Poland's apartment prices continue to fall [1844]
So what happened to the 60% price crash then?. You can't have it both ways Mark.
So what happened to the 60% price crash then?. You can't have it both ways Mark.
Avalon
5 Jun 2011
Real Estate / Poland's apartment prices continue to fall [1844]
Mark, you call me a "Thatcherite" as if I should be ashamed of that. I know the following artical is meant to apply to the UK, but, I also believe this is what should be happening in Poland.
"It is more important that the young should have the chance to buy an affordable home than that their parents should be able to call themselves nominal house-price millionaires.
Housing is a difficult political issue that is not being handled well by the Coalition. If they were Thatcherites they would take the obvious step and release more sites to bring down the price of development land and, ultimately, of houses.
The present situation has become intolerable. The best the Government could do now is set a target of 260,000 houses a year to be built and sold - and at an affordable price and at a profit to the developer".
Read more:
dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1394244/UK-housing-market-Why-Britain-launch-land-war.html#ixzz1OQhv2S2Y
Place like Lublin and PuĊawe have seen little or no price reductions, due to the mass emigration in these areas.
Mark, you call me a "Thatcherite" as if I should be ashamed of that. I know the following artical is meant to apply to the UK, but, I also believe this is what should be happening in Poland.
"It is more important that the young should have the chance to buy an affordable home than that their parents should be able to call themselves nominal house-price millionaires.
Housing is a difficult political issue that is not being handled well by the Coalition. If they were Thatcherites they would take the obvious step and release more sites to bring down the price of development land and, ultimately, of houses.
The present situation has become intolerable. The best the Government could do now is set a target of 260,000 houses a year to be built and sold - and at an affordable price and at a profit to the developer".
Read more:
dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1394244/UK-housing-market-Why-Britain-launch-land-war.html#ixzz1OQhv2S2Y
Avalon
6 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
milky
Because they can!!!!...Last year, for the first time in their recorded history, more Dutch people left Holland (as opposed to those moving to the Netherlands) to move to such places as New Zealand, Australia etc. These people were professionals of 30+ with children who cited reasons for leaving as "safety" and not being willing to accept the "multi-cultural society" that was being forced on them". There were no "financial reasons" given for this exodus. A lot depends on which governments allow this freedom of movement. Ireland and the UK permitted anybody from the EU (and most of the rest of the world!!!), Australia and New Zealand restricted residence to people with the skills and a clean bill of health who would benefit their new homeland and not be a drain on public finance resources just after they arrived. For some strange reason, the EU and the UN has virtually accused Australia of being "racist", because they are selective about who they let in (asylum seekers are usually deported immeadiately).
One of the reasons cited by Australia can be explained By the following artical:-
dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1393814/Tuberculosis-TB-jab-thousands-babies-NHS-admits-infection-control.html
You may notice that Poland is not on the charts as an area of high infection, probably due to the difficulty and non-encouragement of Asian and African immigrants. Unlike the UK and Ireland, Poland does not give away free housing and cash benefits which also explains why Poland does not have thousands of asylum seekers clamouring to enter the country.
So Mark, if people want to move abroad and try and find a better quality of life then fair play to them, but, its not only the poor who do this. There are many reasons to uproot and they are not necessarily all about money. I thank God that people think that Poland is a poor country with no free handouts, it means that there is more chance that they will not try to come here.
milky
well, why is there mass emigration in Poland and not in France etc, why is there 2 million Poles in the Uk,why were Poles fllocking into Ireland.
Because they can!!!!...Last year, for the first time in their recorded history, more Dutch people left Holland (as opposed to those moving to the Netherlands) to move to such places as New Zealand, Australia etc. These people were professionals of 30+ with children who cited reasons for leaving as "safety" and not being willing to accept the "multi-cultural society" that was being forced on them". There were no "financial reasons" given for this exodus. A lot depends on which governments allow this freedom of movement. Ireland and the UK permitted anybody from the EU (and most of the rest of the world!!!), Australia and New Zealand restricted residence to people with the skills and a clean bill of health who would benefit their new homeland and not be a drain on public finance resources just after they arrived. For some strange reason, the EU and the UN has virtually accused Australia of being "racist", because they are selective about who they let in (asylum seekers are usually deported immeadiately).
One of the reasons cited by Australia can be explained By the following artical:-
dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1393814/Tuberculosis-TB-jab-thousands-babies-NHS-admits-infection-control.html
You may notice that Poland is not on the charts as an area of high infection, probably due to the difficulty and non-encouragement of Asian and African immigrants. Unlike the UK and Ireland, Poland does not give away free housing and cash benefits which also explains why Poland does not have thousands of asylum seekers clamouring to enter the country.
So Mark, if people want to move abroad and try and find a better quality of life then fair play to them, but, its not only the poor who do this. There are many reasons to uproot and they are not necessarily all about money. I thank God that people think that Poland is a poor country with no free handouts, it means that there is more chance that they will not try to come here.
Avalon
6 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
And have you ever heard of any Polish people being screened for health reasons on entering the UK?
TB used to be rife, and comparatively recently, too.
And have you ever heard of any Polish people being screened for health reasons on entering the UK?
Avalon
6 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
Sorry Mark, I do not understand gibberish, try explaining that comment to me in English. What alterior motives?
'think' hahah,...ulterior motives sing from your every word.
Sorry Mark, I do not understand gibberish, try explaining that comment to me in English. What alterior motives?
Avalon
7 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
Would that be for Leaman Brothers?
Economics Professor at Upenn, who worked on Wall Street for 15 years.
Would that be for Leaman Brothers?
Avalon
7 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
Havok
"I already told you once, I joined the military because my family was poor and I couldn't get a loan or a scholarship to go to college."
"Oh what a tangled web we weave, when err we seek to deceive"
Yet you feel you have the experience to criticize the universities in Poland. This from a grunt.
Quote
Antek_Stalich:
May I ask you about your own scientific degree, University, and graduation year?
'05 CIS, Upenn, what about you?
Antek_Stalich:
May I ask you about your own scientific degree, University, and graduation year?
'05 CIS, Upenn, what about you?
Havok
"I already told you once, I joined the military because my family was poor and I couldn't get a loan or a scholarship to go to college."
"Oh what a tangled web we weave, when err we seek to deceive"
Yet you feel you have the experience to criticize the universities in Poland. This from a grunt.
Avalon
7 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
Say that to the Greeks, Portugese, Americans, English, Irish etc Polands growth is at 4%, no austerity measures, wages increasing (for those that work), jobless numbers falling. What the hell do you expect Mark, a free house and 1000 PLN per week in unemployment benefit, that is how these countries got into debt. You keep mentioning how poor Poland is compared to the West, you fail to mention that America (growth 1.5%) is 14 trillion dollars in debt, the UK (growth 0.5%) is about 3 trillion pounds in debt (excluding pension liabilities for the public sector). All you do is *****, why not tell us something constructive, what is your vision for Poland?
LOve our terrible economic situation
Say that to the Greeks, Portugese, Americans, English, Irish etc Polands growth is at 4%, no austerity measures, wages increasing (for those that work), jobless numbers falling. What the hell do you expect Mark, a free house and 1000 PLN per week in unemployment benefit, that is how these countries got into debt. You keep mentioning how poor Poland is compared to the West, you fail to mention that America (growth 1.5%) is 14 trillion dollars in debt, the UK (growth 0.5%) is about 3 trillion pounds in debt (excluding pension liabilities for the public sector). All you do is *****, why not tell us something constructive, what is your vision for Poland?
Avalon
8 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
My 5 year old daughter to George W. Bush.
It seems like someone in the UK thinks its just as bad there:-
absolutley disgusting repugnant they all need to go and hang thier heads in shame,i have never known so much poverty and depravation in the uk, how are the unemployed going to afford to heat thier homes the cost of gas and power each week uses all the unemployment benifit up ,how are they going to feed and clothe themselves and buy toiletreries and basic food bread and water, to think of all the bankers mps doctors lawyers the royals are all on tens of thousands a year and the poor are going to die and starve and freeze to death, the uk is an international disgrace,
- jenna, london, 8/6/2011 2:14
Read more:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000402/Pain-millions-customers-Scottish-Power-puts-gas-bills-19---electricity-10-too.html#ixzz1Of9qgAHl
Can you please try to compare for a change the smartest people in Poland to the smartest people in the US ?
My 5 year old daughter to George W. Bush.
So I guess the best possible option for Polish people is to realize that everyone in the West is poor as well.
It seems like someone in the UK thinks its just as bad there:-
absolutley disgusting repugnant they all need to go and hang thier heads in shame,i have never known so much poverty and depravation in the uk, how are the unemployed going to afford to heat thier homes the cost of gas and power each week uses all the unemployment benifit up ,how are they going to feed and clothe themselves and buy toiletreries and basic food bread and water, to think of all the bankers mps doctors lawyers the royals are all on tens of thousands a year and the poor are going to die and starve and freeze to death, the uk is an international disgrace,
- jenna, london, 8/6/2011 2:14
Read more:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000402/Pain-millions-customers-Scottish-Power-puts-gas-bills-19---electricity-10-too.html#ixzz1Of9qgAHl
Avalon
9 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
Try saying that the West was a lot richer and Poland is catching up. The amount of debt owed by the average UK, American family, be it personal debt or debt that has been placed on them by bad government fiscal policies is astronomical. We are looking at least at a couple of generations (maybe more in the USA) who will suffer with cuts in services, high unemployment and higher taxes which will rapidly erode their standard of living.
I cannot speak from experience about the USA, although I have been there many times, I was never exposed to the "poor areas". The UK has the buffer of a generous social system and free medical care but I wonder how much longer this will be the case as it is becoming ever more unaffordable and the present government is looking at ways to drastically reduce the costs by capping housing benefit, child benefit and forcing the long term sick/unemployed back into work.
The rising cost of health and the increase in the life exectancy of a growing population of the elderly will see a huge strain on the money available for aftercare and pensions.
So however bad you think it is in Poland at the moment, you have read or should have access to the information regarding the financial situation of the so called, rich countries.
I personally do not think that being in any kind of debt is being rich. Some will argue that having a mortgage is being in debt, but, if the amount you pay monthly is approximately the same as what you would spend on rent then you have to take a long term view.
well people on here are comparing Poland to the west and I'm am sayng that, ecomically, the west is a lot richer.
Try saying that the West was a lot richer and Poland is catching up. The amount of debt owed by the average UK, American family, be it personal debt or debt that has been placed on them by bad government fiscal policies is astronomical. We are looking at least at a couple of generations (maybe more in the USA) who will suffer with cuts in services, high unemployment and higher taxes which will rapidly erode their standard of living.
I cannot speak from experience about the USA, although I have been there many times, I was never exposed to the "poor areas". The UK has the buffer of a generous social system and free medical care but I wonder how much longer this will be the case as it is becoming ever more unaffordable and the present government is looking at ways to drastically reduce the costs by capping housing benefit, child benefit and forcing the long term sick/unemployed back into work.
The rising cost of health and the increase in the life exectancy of a growing population of the elderly will see a huge strain on the money available for aftercare and pensions.
So however bad you think it is in Poland at the moment, you have read or should have access to the information regarding the financial situation of the so called, rich countries.
I personally do not think that being in any kind of debt is being rich. Some will argue that having a mortgage is being in debt, but, if the amount you pay monthly is approximately the same as what you would spend on rent then you have to take a long term view.
Avalon
9 Jun 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish burglars 'tied up pensioner and stripped her of jewellery before leaving her to die [28]
Allegedly. They have pleaded not guilty, until convicted, they are innocent.
Allegedly. They have pleaded not guilty, until convicted, they are innocent.
Avalon
9 Jun 2011
Real Estate / Poland's apartment prices continue to fall [1844]
You are only saying that to wind (Milky) Mark up.
You are only saying that to wind (Milky) Mark up.
Avalon
9 Jun 2011
Real Estate / Poland's apartment prices continue to fall [1844]
It makes a change from the so called facts that come out of the same place.
Everyone on here is a liar except you Mark.
It makes a change from the so called facts that come out of the same place.
Everyone on here is a liar except you Mark.
Avalon
10 Jun 2011
News / Conservative-liberalism (Laissez-faire liberalism), another utopia for Poland? [99]
Strange how you denegrate the two world leaders (both Conservatives) who are acknowledged as bringing long periods of growth and prosperity to their respective countries.
It convinced me, I don't want to be poor.
"and taken on board by pieces of sh1t like Regan and Thatcher"
Strange how you denegrate the two world leaders (both Conservatives) who are acknowledged as bringing long periods of growth and prosperity to their respective countries.
Its a theory that constantly evolves and tries to convince people that the more money one has, the better their outlook on life, and the world is.
It convinced me, I don't want to be poor.
Avalon
10 Jun 2011
News / Conservative-liberalism (Laissez-faire liberalism), another utopia for Poland? [99]
I think you are getting things mixed up. Hash-brownies are cakes with cannabis baked into them.
Hash-browns are shredded potatoe, fried and usually had at breakfast.
they are, I had them once.
I think you are getting things mixed up. Hash-brownies are cakes with cannabis baked into them.
Hash-browns are shredded potatoe, fried and usually had at breakfast.
Avalon
10 Jun 2011
Real Estate / Poland's apartment prices continue to fall [1844]
Mark does not state facts, just wishes.
Mark does not state facts, just wishes.
Avalon
10 Jun 2011
Real Estate / Poland's apartment prices continue to fall [1844]
Just read the link you posted but cannot say that just because there is less demand for properties already on the market, that this is a reason for a decline in prices. 95% of the properties advertised are rubbish, overpriced and would find it difficult to sell at even cheap prices.
When I first came to Poland in 2002, I was going to build my own house (being a builder for 30 years it would be easy) but continually got messed around when trying to buy a decent plot of land, I would agree a price for the land, get planning permission and then the landowner wanted more money because his friends and family thought it was worth more. (This happened a couple of times and wasted months of my time)
Anyway, after 2 years of this crap, I started looking for a house to buy as I was not getting any younger. I started looking in earnest for a place for a further two years but could not find anything that I liked, then I found out a new baby was on the way and really panicked, had to look further out of the town than I had before but managed to find my semi-perfect house by accident, there was a "For Sale" sign on the gate. The couple who lived in/built the house had spent 3 years in the UK when they graduated from university, so, the build was more or less of an English design and quality.
When somebody buys a flat/apartment, they know that all the rest of the building is roughly the same, quality wise. An individual house is something different, it has to feel right, it has to meet the criteria for growing kids and for when you get older and cannot manage the stairs etc. A house is a long term project, even the way you landscape the gardens is a statement of your own personality and is carried out over many years. I know in my heart that if I had bought any of the houses that I had previously viewed, I would have ended up demolishing them and starting from scratch as I would never have been happy.
Sorry this was a bit long but wanted you to know from a personal experience how hard it is to find the right place.
There are sources out there, suggesting a further weakening of the market.
Just read the link you posted but cannot say that just because there is less demand for properties already on the market, that this is a reason for a decline in prices. 95% of the properties advertised are rubbish, overpriced and would find it difficult to sell at even cheap prices.
When I first came to Poland in 2002, I was going to build my own house (being a builder for 30 years it would be easy) but continually got messed around when trying to buy a decent plot of land, I would agree a price for the land, get planning permission and then the landowner wanted more money because his friends and family thought it was worth more. (This happened a couple of times and wasted months of my time)
Anyway, after 2 years of this crap, I started looking for a house to buy as I was not getting any younger. I started looking in earnest for a place for a further two years but could not find anything that I liked, then I found out a new baby was on the way and really panicked, had to look further out of the town than I had before but managed to find my semi-perfect house by accident, there was a "For Sale" sign on the gate. The couple who lived in/built the house had spent 3 years in the UK when they graduated from university, so, the build was more or less of an English design and quality.
When somebody buys a flat/apartment, they know that all the rest of the building is roughly the same, quality wise. An individual house is something different, it has to feel right, it has to meet the criteria for growing kids and for when you get older and cannot manage the stairs etc. A house is a long term project, even the way you landscape the gardens is a statement of your own personality and is carried out over many years. I know in my heart that if I had bought any of the houses that I had previously viewed, I would have ended up demolishing them and starting from scratch as I would never have been happy.
Sorry this was a bit long but wanted you to know from a personal experience how hard it is to find the right place.
Avalon
10 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
"outrageous" I thought that only applied to paying your debts and taxes.
In Greece it is regarded as gypsy attitude if the shop does not give you bags for free to put your things in.Paying for the bags is considered outrageous.
"outrageous" I thought that only applied to paying your debts and taxes.
Avalon
10 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
You talk of Poles being sold out to the West? Goldman Sachs has ****** you good and proper as well as the American public.
Lets see if you are still so confident in August when the IMF finishes with you. Bubbles? you are talking of Hindenbergs.
You are supposed to like the bubbles.
You talk of Poles being sold out to the West? Goldman Sachs has ****** you good and proper as well as the American public.
Lets see if you are still so confident in August when the IMF finishes with you. Bubbles? you are talking of Hindenbergs.
Avalon
10 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
"The home of the brave and the land of the free", 14 trillion dollars in debt and you still do not understand, nothing, is for free. Whether you buy a bag or its added to the price of the goods you buy, you still end up paying ( and in your case, you pay the wages of the person who packs your bag).
lol,
you guys want me to send you some free ketchup?
you guys want me to send you some free ketchup?
"The home of the brave and the land of the free", 14 trillion dollars in debt and you still do not understand, nothing, is for free. Whether you buy a bag or its added to the price of the goods you buy, you still end up paying ( and in your case, you pay the wages of the person who packs your bag).
Avalon
10 Jun 2011
Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]
This is the best post I have seen for a long time. The most respected banks in America, sell worthless CDS. crash the market. virtually wipe out the banking system. are bailed out by the American taxpayer to the tune of 1.7 trillion dollars, nobody so far goes to court for fraud and he talks about the ethics of business in Poland. Get your own house in order first!!!!!. At least what happens in Poland does not cause s**t in the rest of the world.
So, I think people should at one point stop thinking about the money they lose on basic necessities of shoppers, honest wages for their employees, or not cheating on taxes, and start thinking about the money they could be making with better customer serivce, better qualified and engaged employees, andinnovation.
This is the best post I have seen for a long time. The most respected banks in America, sell worthless CDS. crash the market. virtually wipe out the banking system. are bailed out by the American taxpayer to the tune of 1.7 trillion dollars, nobody so far goes to court for fraud and he talks about the ethics of business in Poland. Get your own house in order first!!!!!. At least what happens in Poland does not cause s**t in the rest of the world.