Posts by Lukasz

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Poland's pollution of the Baltic Sea [46]

Ok I see that afer weeks of presetning Poland as :

wieś
Poland is industrial monster. :)

with more factories cars polutions than UK or Germany. :) be serious bartwurst

as to Nordstream I will post it in other place.

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Poland's pollution of the Baltic Sea [46]

Our government and different organisations. We don't have "green" party in our parlament. there are some members of this parlament who takes care about it.

We couldn't build biger road to Lithuania because of ecologs.

Because of beautiful ecosystem of Rospuda

in comparison to toher ecosystems we have in Poland it isn't noting special ... but the fact is that we have to use the newst thechnology or find another way. Nature is the most important and ecologs are strong in Poland.

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Poland's pollution of the Baltic Sea [46]

Umm....so you would describe Poland as industrialized and crowded as GB and Germany?

no because it isn't so industralized like UK or Germny. and it isn't 3rd world country. The fact is that Poland is much cleaner than UK or Germany especialy in North part of our beautiful country. And we have nice incomes becuase of it :) and discussion about poluted Poland are harming for us, because nature is Poland's strong point.

That is why we care so much about it. :)

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Poland's pollution of the Baltic Sea [46]

OH comon

the same people who like to decribe Poland as 3rd world

now try to show Poland as industrial monster.

Poland is one of the cleanest countries in europe. It is fact!

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [372]

Excuse me but parts of the Baltic Coast belong to Germany - we have an interest in that too.Stop being pretending you are the only one concerned!

Of course ... that is why we want to sit down and discusse if this project has or not influence on our sea. Swedes want to do it as well. This project is controversial not only because of politics. You know we have tourists industry in Poland and we are concerned about this project.

Lets wait for new researches in this issue.

form German newspaper

Bratwurst we need to sit down and talk about it. Pollution form towns are not pollution form WMD.

And it's not just industrial waste. Following World War II, virtually the entire chemical arsenal of Nazi Germany was dumped (more...), with much of it -- at least 35,000 tons -- ending up on the floor of the Baltic Sea. Hundreds of thousands of tons of chemical weapons from the Soviet Union, Britain and the United States were also chucked overboard in the northern Atlantic, North Sea, and elsewhere, including the Baltic. The poisonous weapons -- including mustard gas, phosphorus, nerve gas, and other highly toxic chemicals -- were joined by hundreds of thousands of unused bombs, mines and grenades.

and experts opinion.

The long-term environmental threats can be considered as significantly lower as compared with the risks of lifting the corroded items, transportation and destruction according to the current workplace safety and environmental protection standards as required by the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [372]

Nord Stream plans to do more FOR the environment of the Baltic Sea than Poland ever did!

yes and later they will polute our Waters by Chemical Weapons.

We have enourmous income form tourists on baltic coast. It is very clean baltics coasts. Poland isn't big industrial power ...

so please stop posting such propaganda.

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Poland's pollution of the Baltic Sea [46]

After communism Poland was totally bankrupted (thanks to Russia) in 90s we started to work hard and we do it all the time ... because we care. :)

We have so many national parks our rivers are cleaner and cleaner.

Now we introduce NATURE 2000 program and 20% of Polands territory will be protected :)

Yes we are not perfect :( but we work hard and natural environment is one of the most important issues in our government policy.

Bratwurst it is really our strong point :)

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Poland's pollution of the Baltic Sea [46]

but we build a lot of new sewage treatment plants and we have stared to do it in 90's our rivers are much cleaner than it was. And will be cleaner every year.

This website has nothing to do with Nordstream.

Polands nature is in much better condition than Gemrman or British.

staff.amu.edu.pl/~zbzw/ph/pnp/pnp.htm

National Parks in Poland constitute the biggest form of nature protection. For each of the national parks, the mandate is defined in the statutes of the park, issued by the Minister of Environmental Protection, Natural Resources and Forestry. There are 23 national parks in Poland with total area of ca. 315,000 ha, which cover approximately 1 per cent of the country's area. Polish National Parks are exceptional in Europe for their range of wildlife, their size and varying geographical interest.

We do care about nature :) so it is our strong point. :-) you need to look somewhere else. ;-)

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Poland's pollution of the Baltic Sea [46]

Fast Work in Poland. New sewage treatment plants in record time.

Poland is taking its environmental problems seriously, recognizing that they affect not only their own population, but also their neighbors, particularly those around the Baltic. The success of the project to date, and the speed with which it has been completed, is an encouragement for further steps to improve municipal sewage handling in Poland, and elsewhere.

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [372]

It is experts opinion.

Don't give us crap! You don't care about the environment of the Baltic Sea...you care only about the Nord Stream NOT being build!

we build new sewage treatment plants and honestly polution form factory (every country polutes in some way rivers) isn't the same as polution form Chemical weapons.

Bratwurst talking about Shield when Germany support this poroject.

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [372]

If we are going to discuss the possible dangers of toxic substances being realeased into the Baltic as a result of Nord Stream, shouldn't we also be discussing the toxic substances that Poland is currently pumping into the sea.

Poland builds new sewage treatment plants make spearte discussion about that. We can discusse it there.

What???

I will ask in different way. Are you supporter of SPD CDU NPD .... ?

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [372]

Ok Bratwurst if we talk about everything.

spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,551448,00.html

Details of the 20-page CDU policy paper, to be voted on this week by the party, are still being developed, but main author Andreas Schockenhoff -- deputy chair of the party's parliamentary group -- gave a preview in the German foreign policy magazine Internationale Politik.

In the essay, Schockenhoff argues for Germany to take steps to better protect itself from the threat of a nuclear attack from rogue states, saying it must support "a missile defense shield over Europe."

as to shield. It seems that Germany support this project. And Merkel is USA ally. Isn't she ? So what is your problem. Maybe you are one of Iran supporters denying Holocaust ?

as to ecology all we want to do is to check if it has influence or not on natural environment.

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [372]

Poland isn't the only country with a say in the Baltics future. There are other parties at the table.

in 4th post I have noticed that Germans have sunk weapons at the bottom of this sea. And now they want to build there someting. When it is impossible to clean balitic sea in safe way.

The pipeline would run through the economic zones of Scandinavian countries including Sweden whose permission is needed. Swedes have voiced concerns that the pipeline may unsettle an area littered with mines from two world wars, hinder shipping, disrupt fishing and deter tourists.

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [372]

As I said...I don't trust your motives...

Firstly you sugest that this pipe line is German penalty for American anti-missile system.

Now you don't trust in somebody intentions.

Don't you trust Sweden ?

Don't you trust Estonia ?

We all want to know if this project is eco friendly.

Lukasz

27 May 2008

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

don' talk to this idiot all arguments have been presented he is going to post here all the time.

Firslly he claimed that Poland runed camps durring WWII now he changes his mind.

Before after ... all the time.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_death_camp

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [372]

We don't talk about politics. THIS PROJECT SEEMS TO BE REALLY DANGEROUS for our balitc sea.

All we want to do is to check it. It is too risky for our common bussiness Polish German Swedish to have such a dangorous pipeline in our sea.

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [372]

so why you have lost in vote.

The problem is that you want to make business without taking care about natural enviroment. What is more it seems that this project may be dangerous for OUR EUROPEAN Balitc sea.

We need to check fo everything is alright.

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [372]

the problem is that europe don't trust for Germans.

The petitions committee called on EU governments and the European Commission, the EU's regulatory arm, ``to use every legal means at their disposal'' to reduce the project's scale.The committee approved the resolution by a vote of 26 to 3.

German members of the committee failed to win backing for a series of amendments that would have toned down the concerns expressed in the resolution. Efforts to soften the language may continue because amendments can be put to the full Parliament, where Germany's members outnumber those of any other EU country.

it is form link I have posted before.

We need to sit down and think what we should do in this case. Check if this project is eco frieindly and make decision.

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [372]

BB it is link form Nordstream website ... be serious.

Firstly Baltic sea is our common wealth and we should all sit down and think what we can do to save what we have.

As to Poles being natural eco warriors.

Our Bialowieski National Park was one of first in Europe. (As I remeber Sweden was first)

Not only we habe some objections, Sweden Lithuania Estonia. We want to check if it is not dangerous for enviroment.

bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601095&sid=admbOLaboKi4&refer=east_europe

May 27 (Bloomberg) -- AEuropean Parliament committee said OAO Gazprom's planned underwater pipeline between Russia and Germany poses a ``serious'' environmental threat, compounding the political hurdles for the $12 billion project.

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [372]

yes Celinski you are totally right.

We need to fight to save our beautiful sea. What is interesting at the end of WWII Germans were sinking ammunition and other dangerous weapons at the bottom of sea. I just can't imagine what would happen if during construction of Nordstream this weapons would explode. What is more pipe line may be dangerous form many other reasons for balitic sea.

But Poland is against that project, as well as the Baltic States, Sweden (again ;)), Finland...

Because this countries love baltic sea.

Now we need to check the influence of this project on ecosytems.

Lukasz

27 May 2008

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [372]

ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=42454

The German North Sea offshore area, known as Wattenmeer, or Wadden Sea, is a fragile biological habitat. It is the only home to more than 4,000 animal species, and as much flora. In addition, the region is the seasonal stopover for some 12 million migratory birds.

Due to ecological opposition from all the countries involved, the pipeline project, a joint venture of the Russian gas giant Gazprom and several German energy companies which started in late 2005, has so far not obtained a single construction permit.

Ecology is the most important in modern world.

We need to be sure that this project is not dangerous for our beautiful baltic sea.

after hundrets of years when human was destroying our beautiful nature it is time for change.

Lukasz

17 May 2008

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

so how it is possible that we had Jewish lawers and doctors in Poland.

so why he moved back with his family form Russia to Poland. why Jews were escaping Germany and going to Poland. Why Jews in 1950s had the same more problems in USA than Jews in Poland in 1930s. Why you moan so much when Poland holded in prisons people who didn,t want Jews on univesities. Why some Polish Jews hold Polish flags on their homes in Israel ? Why French people were packing Jews to trains to Auschitz and Hungarians were paying Germans to kill Jews.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews

were Jews not smart enought to study on American Univerisites? Maybe you will bring some victims of Polish medieval knights ? And tell us that in 21st century it would never happen.

this is interesting part of your link:

The search for the presumed guilty continued all the time. Professor Eberman from the Combustion Engines department, as well as engineers Jerzy Węgierski and Zbigniew Budzianowski were fired, singled out by their Jewish students. In 1940 an assistant professor of sculpture, renown artist and Silesian insurgent, Jan Nalborczyk, was arrested and bludgeoned in prison. Dr Zdzisław Rodewald from Institute of Chemistry disappeared.

as to your other posts bring stats !

So not one single Pole ever assisted the communist regime?

no body said that, the fact is that we wouldn't have communism in Poland without Russian soldiers.

Lukasz

17 May 2008

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

I hope that Isrealis will find compomise with Palestinians becuse everybody needs place to live.

and don't worry about them.

Lukasz

17 May 2008

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

scorpio

read this text about Poles and Israel. (in Polish)

rp.pl/artykul/135311.html

a lot of them still hold Polish flags on their houses in Israel they visit Poland and invest here. Some of them were Polish nationalists ... and are angry that Lwow and Wilno are not in Poland.

(harry go to tlanslator and and read this text)

The fact is that all elites in Israel are Polish Jews.

so Polish Israel relationship are complicated. Jews from this article joke form Polish-Jewish argues and call it childish. Jews love to argue and complain like Poles. They call their own country balagan (from different article) and it is Polish word and means "mess".

as I have said case is complicated (noticeable on this forum)

Lukasz

17 May 2008

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

nah you are interesting as well ;) because when you talk about Jews and Yidish you talk like Russians on this forum about Germans...

do Germans look up on Jews ?

Lukasz

17 May 2008

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

It wasn't malicious remark. For me it is funny form historical point of view. IMO it is time to move forward and it is let say good sign.

...doesn't sound sorbish either...compare that with Hochdeutsch:

link I have posted is with Jewish thoughts about their origin. They make DNA tests compare it to some nations and they have some ideas.

Ask them about their theories.

(Doron M. Behar,1,* Mark G. Thomas,2,* Karl Skorecki,1 Michael F. Hammer,4
Ekaterina Bulygina,2 Dror Rosengarten,1 Abigail L. Jones,2 Karen Held,2 Vivian Moses,2
David Goldstein,3 Neil Bradman,2 and Michael E. Weale2
1Bruce Rappaport Faculty of Medicine and Research Institute, Technion and Rambam Medical Center, Haifa, Israel; 2The Centre for Genetic
Anthropology and 3The Centre for Population Genetics and Human Health, Department of Biology, University College London, London; and
4Division of Biotechnology, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ)

Lukasz

17 May 2008

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

I still think they are mostly a religion (at least in Europe).

I was talking about 1930s and we know that it wasn't just religon in this time. Jewish socialists form Bund (mentioned before) were not religous. They considered Yiddish language as something what gave them unity.

As to Jews and Harry,

Wife of our Minister Sikorski Anne Applebaum has Jewish origin.

I was laghing when German foreign affairs minister visited Poland with his wife and they all were sleeping in Skorskis house. Funny situation from historical point of view.

But I agree...it's a people too...

lets leave it in this way.

Lukasz

17 May 2008

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

How come???

Multiple Origins of Ashkenazi Levites: Y Chromosome Evidence for Both
Near Eastern and European Ancestries

familytreedna.com/pdf/Levite%20paper.pdf

So Ashkenazi Levites priests can be more or less European still others are middle east people.

there are some inaccuracies in this work. When more and more people will make DNA tests in our part of europe it will be easier to find final answer.

Lukasz

16 May 2008

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

So you mean that because they had Jewish names, they could not possibly have been Polish.

because we are separated nations. In moder times it changes.

In the past Jews had not only their religion but different language and ethnic group.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language

some of them couldn't speak Polish.

I was only asking about your opinion if Jew = Pole (your opinion)

IMO you like to talk about Jewish victims or heros as about Jews. When it comes to bad Jews they are Poles who operated camps after WWII.

In the past reality was much different. In big cities there was a lot good assimilated Jews good Polish patriots and links I provided show that they were officers in Polish army or later oppostionst durring communism.

good Poles: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Military_Union

as to this names they are not "native Polish names"

Provided they were happy to sit on the ghetto benches in the segregated Polish universities. Which were introduced before or during the war? And provided they didn't want to join the professional associations which regulated and validated those professions. And, of course, provided that they could get a place in universities which strictly controlled the number of Jews who would be permitted to pollute the hallowed Polish halls of learning with their presence.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Hurwicz

Hurwicz was born in Moscow, Russia to a Jewish family a few months before the October Revolution. The family was Polish and had lived in Congress Kingdom (the part of Poland then within the Russian Empire) but had been displaced by World War I. Soon after Leonid's birth, the family returned to Warsaw, Poland.

Encouraged by his father to study law, in 1938 Hurwicz received his LL.M. degree from Warsaw University

he is after Polish univeristy - LAWER.

Jews had harder life in USA.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews

. Just as you doubtless view anybody who has black or yellow skin as being unable to be Polish.

it is not true.

As to Askhenazi DNA most of them are (J) middle east. In some groups there is high level of R1A1 and Q.

Lukasz

16 May 2008

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

At no time did I say that. The AK did not hunt Jews, other resistance organisations did.

Ok I see that good Jew from Poland is Jew

and bad Jew is Pole ...

so when change it

Jewish Ghetto Police (German: Jüdische Ghetto-Polizei, Jüdischer Ordnungsdienst), also known as the Jewish Order Service and referred by the Jews as the Jewish Police, were the police units organized in the Jewish ghettos by the local Judenrat councils under German Nazi orders. The Jewish Order Service was also active in some of the Nazi concentration camps.