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It wasn't Ukraine who invaded Russia but the other way around.


What happens to Ukraine is our business since we were given to understand that "we will be next".

I am of the opinion that if Russia conducts another act of sabotage against Poland, we should go to war against them. Actually, we should go to war against them right now, without delay - we can either fight now, while Ukraine is still defending, or we will be figthing alone (with limited aid from our European allies) later.

It breaks my Russophile heart but putinist criminals are leaving us no other option. However, even as we go to war we should make it abundantly clear: Russian nation is not our enemy, our enemy is quasi-fascist, neo-imperial putinist regime.

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What lies?

Are all those American people in social media lying about the exorbitant cost of living and problems with making ends meet? Why would they do it?







So what's the story?


OK, illegal immigrants.

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Well, you said it in reply to my post, so I wanted to make sure you didn't mean me.


It's from Tomás de Torquemada - great son of the Church and a man of profound religious conviction.


Oh, we would be absolutely delighted to be friendly with them if it wasn't for the fact that they are currently conducting a hybrid warfare against Poland and regularly threaten us with much more than a hybrid war.

Russia is ruled by people for whom the fall of the Soviet Union was the greatest trauma in life. Now they seek revenge and return to their imperial past. Their choice.

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Who are you talking to? I am the greatest Russophile in pomorskie vojvodship.


Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore but there is a legal continuity between the SU and the Russian Federation. What's your point (assuming boldly that there is any)?

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Did I say Russia/Soviet Union?

No, I said "criminal putinist regime". They did none of the things you write about.


Don't push it, Ryszard, or I will reconsider my latest policy of being nice to you.

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Division!


... and I bet they think we forgot! Like hell we did! :)


Scandalous. I am writing to my local PiS MP (for whom I didn't vote lol) to investigate the matter further - that should take some heat off your back.

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More like hundreds of videos on social media where Americans whine and complain about horrendous cost of living. Why would they lie? I can understand people bragging that they are rich and successful but what's the point of lying that you are poor and can't afford basic necessities?


Hey, I was replying to your mate Novichok - he has no problem explaining Europe from overseas.

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Let me put this way: I have a feeling that we won't pay the full price for those Saab submarines. ;)

But seriously, this issue has to be finally put to rest--talk to Tusk, he's practically a German, surely you will come up with some sort of symbolic agreement and PiS will have to shut up forever.


Go for it! I would like to see their plundering barbarian Swedish faces when they hear of it. 😂

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Polish bishops against PiS's anti-German rhetoric...

tygodnikpowszechny.pl/biskupi-polski-i-niemiec-przeciwni-antyniemieckiej-retoryce-pis

Unfortunately - the bishops note - today "some political actors still try to exploit painful and historically unresolved issues for political purposes."

This is undoubtedly an allusion to PiS's policy, as it is the party that most persistently tries to stir up anti-German sentiment on the Polish political scene.

"For us it is clear," the bishops write, "that political maneuvering based on historical grievances is incompatible with the spirit of reconciliation expressed in the exchange of letters [from 1965]."

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It is. But still, recently they started talking about PolExit, so it's no longer Orbanization they are aiming at but Lukashenkization. That's how desperate they are.

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Dems are not the problem.

The problem are ordinary Americans who voted for Trump because he promised that the cost of living would fall significantly whilst in a recent poll, 63% of respondents said the current administration negatively affected their cost of living, including rising grocery prices and higher everyday costs for ordinary goods and services. Prices remain elevated, essentials are still costly, and many households report they spend more, not less, year-to-year. Even though inflation has moderated somewhat from its worst peaks, "moderated inflation" is not the same as "lower cost of living."

So all the Trump's antics in foreign politics, all his obvious connections and history with Epstein, and all his populist actions against immigrants will not do him as much harm as the fact that he flat-out lied about decreasing the cost of living for millions of less well-off Americans (significant part of his voter base).

The fact that a huge part of American society votes for the Billionaires' Trade Union (aka Republican Party) because they sold them the lie that they are conservative and Christian (Epstein's affair shows exactly just how conservative and how Christian) is quite sad.

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You are a curious case. You seem to think that closing your eyes and repeating something a hundred times will magically change reality.


Even if PiS tries this narrative, then legally they will have no leg to stand on. Properly legally conducted reparations agreement would shut them up forever. As it is, they can bring back the issue indefinitely. And if you think that the death of last WW2 survivors will change anything, just know that PiS politicians (e.g. Mularczyk and Pawłowicz) are of the opinion that Sweden should pay us reparations for the Swedish Deluge (1655-1660).

You are right about one thing - PiS demanding reparations from Germany plays exactly into Putin's hands. The problem is, they are so afraid of "westernization" of Poland (which, with addition of the fact that their electorate is dying out, would eventually mean the end of them as a considerable political force) that they think Orbanisation is a viable solution.

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Criminal putinist regime.


They made themselves our enemies by reverting to 19th century imperial politics and threatening us (repeatedly) with war and nuclear weapons.

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I skipped your post about 1962 because my future Mum was 5 years old back then.


If you want, I can ask her if she laughed but I doubt if she remembers.

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True.

I should have included golonka in my list.

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He says he loves Poland which makes his opinions and attitudes even more incomprehensible.

Oh, well... it takes all kinds.

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Pączki are for children, women and homosexual men.

Straight men, when they want a delicious treat are allowed:

- pickled herring,
- gherkins,
- ćwikła z chrzanem (grated red beetrots with horseradish),
- flaki,
- słonina (basically 100%fat).

If it's your birthday, you're allowed a galaretka (boiled meat and vegetables in jelly) with vinegar or a tatar (raw minced meet with raw egg).

Anything else is suspicious.

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LOL

All these years taught you nothing. You still swallow propaganda like a young pelican swallows fish.

*yaaaawn*

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Still nothing to do with war in Ukraine. Try harder.

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Who could possibly ever give a f*ck about that?

Besides, this thread is about war in Ukraine not for random unrelated questions about Albania and USA.

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Of course. The most Polish compliment that can be given to a cake/dessert is: "dobre, takie nie za słodkie". Prince Polo is the most magically Polish ersatz sweet treat ever.


Indeed. If you eat things which are too sweet you can become liberal, pacifist or homosexual. That's what excessive sugar does to you. That's why my Dad's favourite sweet treat is pickled herring.

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Well, that's exactly what they're doing.

It solves nothing.

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It is a great plan indeed: if our enemies know that they cannot destroy Poland without suffering nuclear annihilation of epic proportions themselves, they will never dare to attack us. That's the whole point of having nuclear weapons.


The more important question is: what percentage are cowards? And the answer is: negligible. Therefore, galactic c*nts who harbor fantasies of attacking Poland should reconsider their brilliant plans.

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If you mean 2006 Anna Fotyga's written reply to a parliamentary interpellation, then it was most certainly not - by any means - a binding confirmation of the 1953 so-called reparations waiver.

First of all, a ministerial answer to an interpellation:

1. is not an international agreement,
2. is not a unilateral act of state with binding effect,
3. creates no new obligations for Poland.

It is merely an informational document, not a legal act. Therefore it cannot "confirm" any international waiver, especially if the waiver was illegal to begin with, and it was, like I explained.

Also, The Minister of Foreign Affairs has no constitutional competence to bind the state unilaterally. According to the Polish Constitution (both 1997 in force in 2006, and historical doctrine): the FM cannot unilaterally issue binding declarations of renunciation of claims. Any act that would waive or reconfirm international claims must be done through an international treaty or an explicit Council of Ministers resolution (uchwała RM) authorizing such a position. The 2006 reply had none of these features.

Also, The 2006 statement did not use the legal form of an "act of state" A binding unilateral declaration in international law (per ICJ jurisprudence, e.g. Nuclear Tests Cases) must:

- be made publicly,
- be intended to create legal consequences,
- use clear and formal language,
- be issued by an official empowered to bind the state.

The 2006 reply was:

- not public in the sense of international fora,
- not intended as a legal act,
- drafted as an internal parliamentary answer,
- lacking any formula indicating creation of obligations.

Thus it cannot qualify as a binding unilateral act.

And the 2006 restatement did not repeat the waiver itself - only an interpretation of history

Fotyga's statement did not say: "Poland hereby confirms the 1953 waiver." It merely stated that, according to the Ministry's interpretation, the 1953 waiver was "unambiguous" in Polish legal doctrine. This is a historical and doctrinal claim, not a legal confirmation. A restatement of an interpretation is not a restatement of a legal act.

In addition, there was no publication in the Journal of Laws (Dziennik Ustaw). Any act binding Poland internationally must be published in the Dziennik Ustaw, or recorded in the Monitor Polski, depending on the type of act. The 2006 reply was published nowhere in the state legal publications - another indication that it was not intended as a state act with legal force.

Not to mention that International law requires a state waiver or its confirmation to be formally communicated to the other state. The 2006 reply was not delivered to the German government or any international body. Without communication, no international legal effect is created.

Don't forget that the same government (PiS, 2005-2007) later supported studies on reparations, argued publicly that Germany might still owe compensation, and did not close the discussion internally. This inconsistency undermines the argument that the 2006 reply was intended as a conclusive, binding reaffirmation.

To sum up:

1. The "waiver" had no normative force.
2. The FM had no authority to bind Poland.
3. It lacked the legal form of a unilateral act.
4. It restated an interpretation, not the so-called waiver itself.
5. It was not published officially.
6. The 1953 "waiver" remains legally contested.
7. The government later showed no intent to treat the issue as closed.
8. No diplomatic communication was made.

So, why not accept the fact that the case for reparations is not legally closed and finally close it properly with binding statements from both sides?

Why not negotiate and agree to a form of reparations, even if merely symbolic, with Tusk - the most pro-German Prime Minister in Polish history?

Why the stubborn refusal to even talk?

If this is not settled today by civilised governments of Germany and Poland, then tomorrow - when AfD and PiS are likely to rule our respective countries - it may blow up in our faces.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Tacitus.

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Hmm... if you put it this way. 🤔

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Who says that?

You are making a moral argument, I am making a legal argument - the matter has to be settled properly.


The problem is that legality of this agreement is open to question. Why leave it like that and give all the nutters on both sides a chance to stir sh*t?


Not necessarily. Ukrainian army is not even a EU army but we support it. Polish army - as the strongest easternmost EU/NATO force - protects all of Europe from the East.

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Very strong military, mass territorial defense, and no border with Russia make surviving ever so easier.

Also, they are landlocked, Ryszard, so they have no use for submarines. :)

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Exactly.

That's why KO has to settle it.

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You must surely remember my repeated advice to Americans concerning what they should do from Europe:

F _ CK _FF

Would you like to buy a vowel?


Plus, they are stealth submarines. So they can strike from any unknown place with multiple warheads. Stationary nukes on land can be destroyed by a pre-emptive strike. If we put them on subs, there's nothing our enemies can do to prevent us from firing them when such need arises.

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Installments was the word you wanted, Iron.


Czechia got more per capita, and Prague wasn't razed to the ground neither were 6 million Czechs murdered, so there's no point mentioning that.

And you are all missing the point--seeing that the 1953 "waiver" is totally invalid and has never been legally confirmed by any Polish government, it opens the gate for various kinds of sh*t stirrers on both sides of the border to come back to the issue indefinitely.

That's why it should be settled between the current pro-German government in Poland and the German side (because if PiS comes back to power they will make a huge mess out of it again) once and for all, so that nobody can come back to it in the future.

And it has to be something beneficial for both sides - for example, if Russia decides to go on a rampage again, Poland will be shielding Germany from the attack, therefore if Germany armed one Polish division with brand new tanks, AFVs and artillery, I would say that'd be enough as a reparation and a very symbolic gesture at the same time - Polish soldiers armed and equipped with German weapons and gear. We could even come up with some kick-ass name for the division... 1. Sarmatisch-Nordische Mechanisierte Division (1. Sarm.-Nord.). Think about it - it would be sooo cool! :)