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Joined: 2 Dec 2023 / Male ♂
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Torq   
51 mins ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26 [651]

Trump wants to just end the war as soon as possible

By basically agreeing to Ukraine's surrender, rewarding Russia for their aggression, and opening the door to further wars in Europe?

Brilliant.
Torq   
56 mins ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

Hm...

OK, but one thing that bothers me is that complete and stubborn refusal to even negotiate. Like, for example, agree to a lower (or much lower) sum, or exchange it for weapons deliveries etc. etc. Anything.

But no... there's just one stubborn refusal.

Suspicious...

Are Greeks n*ggers too?

Maybe Jews are n*ggers too. And the French... and any other country ever invaded that demanded reparations for losses? Maybe there are many more n*gger countries in the world than just African ones?

Interesting.

Maybe AfD will publish a book/booklet about n*ggers. I would buy it! :)
Torq   
58 mins ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26 [651]

Where is the real plan?

That's no plan at all.

If I didn't know it was Trump's I would think that these are Putin's unconditional surrender demands.

If Ukrainians give up Donbas, then they will also have to give up the defensive lines they built for so long, which would make them defenceless if Russia ever broke the agreement (and there is such possibility, right?). Also, why should Ukraine reduce their army by a half and make herself even more defenceless when no such limitations are to be put on Russia?

Complete and utter nonsense.
Torq   
1 hr ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

Blacks also play the slavery and oppression and discrimination card whenever they can

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Whenever they can? Name me two or three cases when Poland played the "oppression and discrimination card". If we do it whenever we can, then surely you can find countless such examples. Are Greeks n*ggers too? They also demanded reparations from Germany didn't they?

Russians are alot less hostile and demanding towards Germany

Erm... does Tusk government demand anything from Germany?

Just saying that the reparations case has not been legally closed, and expecting to settle it in some way open for negotiations, is hardly a "hostile demand", is it? But they don't even do that! If we hear about it, it is either from the opposition or from the president (Kaczyński's "invention").

What about, that the borders are legal and acknowledged?

Well, yes - we have already established that, but the acknowledgement of borders never had anything to do with reparations. If it did - there would be documents saying so - like...

"We The Bundesrepublik Deutschland hereby acknowledge forever and ever Polish-German borders and in return Rzeczpospolita Polska agrees to never demand any reparations from us."

... or something along those lines, right?

Is there any such document?
Torq   
1 hr ago
Classifieds / Need Food And Clothes [65]

Because 100/200 years ago, people in Polish villages

Oh... you were discussing Polish villages in 1800s? I thought you were talking about the Church today.

But even back then, a peasant could travel to a neighbouring village for a local fair and go to confession there. You realise that Catholics are obliged to go to confession only once a year in the Easter period. It's not like those peasants were lining up for confession every week. :)

Turk

Turk?

Is this some kind of Volksdeutsch humour that I am too Polish to understand?
Torq   
1 hr ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

It's a can of worms that better stays closed in Europe

If you mean border changes then yes, but what's wrong with reparations that have never been paid. 🤔

maybe the AfD Keubel's and Co are not that wrong?

Not that wrong about what? The n*ggers part or the thieves part or being a bigger threat than Russia part? Not wrong about which thing exactly?

The new legally acknowledged borders ARE the reparation!

Says who? Any documents, legal cases, state-level agreements? Give me anything substantial, BB. Anything.
Torq   
1 hr ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

...because you got all our land and cities and towns

... but these are two completely separate cases. The lands were never meant to be any sort of reparations. It was Stalin's dirty trick to keep the Soviet Union as Poland's only guarantee of keeping the lands in the West while he stole much more than that in the East, and keep us in eternal check.

you keep one case open, the other stays open too

Well, not really - the case of borders has been legally settled (did you follow the link above?) whilst the case of reparations hasn't.
Torq   
1 hr ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

the matter of Danzig and Breslau is still open too

No, it really isn't.

Here it is, BB...

https://polishforums.com/news/poland-aid-ukraine-russia-invades-part-89034/13/#msg2048533

In an exchange of notes dated 16 October 1991, the Polish government subsequently agreed not to support any further claims by Polish citizens against Germany.

October 1991... wait a minute... who was a PM back then... Jan Krzysztof Bielecki, I think. So he promised that his government will not support any claims by Polish citizens against Germany. Did his government go against their word and supported such claims later?

Besides, it is one thing for the government to legally support individual claims by Polish citizens, and completely another to renounce state-level reparations.

The UN considers the reparations issue closed.

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Wow! The UN considers the reparations from Germany to Poland closed. Hmm... in that case I consider all the external debt of Brazil ($550 billion) null and void. Be happy Brazil, you have no more debt - Tudo de bom, Amigos!

What? I have no right to forgive all the debt of Brazil? Exactly.
Torq   
1 hr ago
Classifieds / Need Food And Clothes [65]

which is basically a way for the church to extract kompromat so they have leverage over a person

What nonsense.

You can go to confession in any church you like, where nobody knows you, and you don't give your personal details to the priest. So how can your confession be any sort of "kompromat" if it's made in complete anonymity?
Torq   
1 hr ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

long time closed case of reparations

Who closed it?

If you mean the ridiculous 1953 "waiver", then it is completely legally invalid: it was made under Soviet pressure and - what's more important:

- Polish Council of Ministers (which made the waiver) did not have the proper constitutional authority to make that decision, so it was illegal to begin with;
- it was not officially published in a way that would make it binding under Polish law, so it's a non-issue - totally illegal nonsense.

So, Poland has a completely valid legal argument for the reparations but Germany simply refuses to negotiate. I can understand the German position of simply refusing to pay for the undeclared war, total destruction of Polish economy, theft of national treasure, works of art etc., slaughter of the elites, war crimes, and 6 million murdered civilians. Whoever would want to pay for silly things like that, right? But the outright stubborn refusal doesn't mean that the "case for reparation is closed". It is not.
Torq   
6 hrs ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

Poland's current good economic position is largely due to Germany

I know. About 10% of Polish GDP depends on trade exchange with Germany, and we are the 4th largest buyer of German goods. That's why we wish Germany all the best. If only they could somehow control the putinist 5th column, it would really help things. Germany should become the pillar and the mainstay of Central Europe, but with those AfD folks getting ready to play a more significant part in German politics, I am not an optimist. :-/
Torq   
7 hrs ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

If they don't, it means they agree with him.

Oh, they do agree with him...

tysol.pl/a149510-polityk-afd-polska-stanowi-dla-niemiec-o-wiele-wieksze-zagrozenie-niz-rosja

... xD

AfD leader, Tino Chrupalla, said exactly the same thing about Poland being a bigger threat to Germany than Russia. Also, he said that Putin didn't even threaten Germany with nukes, so what's the problem?

:)

So the youngster was just sucking up to his boss xD And here I am thinking that he will be disciplined by the AfD party leadership ha ha

But Mafketis defending pro-putinist politicians? Well I never...
Torq   
8 hrs ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

was about Polish self-image and not his opnion

You would make a good lawyer. If you read the rest of his ramblings maybe it will be a bit more difficult for you to interpret his words with so much good will.

He is a Russian asset. He claims openly that Poland is a bigger threat to Germany than Russia. xD Go ahead, defend him more.

How long should people be upset about his tweet?

Upset? Who's upset?

We are merely pointing out that retards should perhaps find themselves different occupations than international politics, that's all.

If he deleted

He didn't, it's still there.

What more reaction do you want?

AfD is a political party right? So they have their leadership? Well, if those leaders think that his words were inappropriate, they should discipline the young onanist.

If they don't, it means they agree with him.
Torq   
8 hrs ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

mock is a strong word here.... he's criticizing

No, it's not. He called us "Afroamericans of Europe" and this is going way beyond merely criticising. And it didn't come from a Bulgarian, Spaniard or a Dutchman but from the representative of the nation who contributed greatly to the aforementioned feeling of victimhood by murdering 6 million Polish citizens in 6 years. How many European nations could sustain comparable losses without developing some sort of victim complex? It is very disappointing that you don't see how inappropriate it was from a German.

I don't predict a successful political career for him--he doesn't realise that a politician shouldn't say/write everything that he thinks. If you're a retard but you want a political career, it would help greatly if you tried to mask your retardation... or at least you shouldn't parade it with pride.

PiS cowards

PiS is slinking into oblivion. Even Nawrocki directs his sympathies more towards Konfederacja.
Torq   
8 hrs ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

there's nothing really offensive in the tweet in the screen shot

Right. There is nothing wrong for a politician from a country that slaughtered 6 million Polish citizens to mock Polish victim complex.

Why the awkward and stupid sounding 'Afroamerikaner'?

Because he's a coward and an onanist.
Torq   
8 hrs ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

he wrote that Poles consider themselves the n*ggers of Europe

Nope. He wrote "Sie sind einfach die Afroamerikaner Europas" - he simply called us n*ggers.

He didn't connect it to land-stealing.

Stop nitpicking. He wrote both things and it is my job, as a quality thread starter, to give proper title to my thread.

I am not defending him in any way.

Good.
Torq   
17 hrs ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

Nobody wrote

See the screenshot in #12...

"Sie sind einfach die Afroamerikaner Europas",

and also...

"committed the largest land theft in European history against Germany".

So did he or did he not call us land-stealing n*ggers?
Torq   
18 hrs ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

@Ironside

Well, among other things he is wrong - it wasn't Poland who commited "the largest mass expulsion in human history". He should go complain to Putin but AfD is supposed to be financed by Russia, so it's unlikely that he will.

Krauts are idiots with an inferiority complex.

Let's not generalise. My friend BB definitely doesn't fit this description!

Besides, surely you meant superiority complex?
Torq   
18 hrs ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

something Poles themselves used to say

Hey, we can insult ourselves as much as we want but foreigners should watch their foreign mouths when they say exactly the same thing! ;)

@BB Good night! :)
Torq   
18 hrs ago
Off-Topic / Random Chat Thread [670]

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Torq   
18 hrs ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

Phew... I thought it was some sort of Russian deep fake that we only see in Poland and in Germany it's invisible!

Well, I don't see this Keubel fellow getting The Order of the White Eagle anytime soon. :)

But still nothing about "Übermenschen" or polish ******* or the like

See the screenshot I posted above.
Torq   
19 hrs ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26 [651]

I would expect majority of Russian nukes to not function properly, or even exist only on paper.

What would you bet on it?

Here is more truth.... do you have the stomach to watch the truth?

Milo... for crying out loud...
Torq   
19 hrs ago
News / AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers [58]

AfD's politician Fabien Keubel wrote in his social media that Poles are "Afroamericans of Europe", that they are a greater threat to Germany than Russia and that they commited the largest theft of German land in history. He also added that Poland is the most anti-German country in Europe.

wiadomosci.wp.pl/skandaliczne-slowa-polityka-afd-o-polsce-afroamerykanie-europy-7223619354389024a

While this is all immensely amusing, we should remember - for the sake of caution and prudence - to only annoy either Russia or Germany at any given moment, not both of them at the same time (although it's tempting).