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Joined: 2 Dec 2023 / Male ♂
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Torq   
9 hrs ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

that can move at 20,000 miles an hour

That's what people like Cms don't get.

You and I, Novi, we are engineers (although I am reduced to teaching jobs these days ;)) and we understand that technologically Russia (and Ukraine!) is way ahead of Poland. During PRL Poland was a backwater, without access to the best technology; we had a bit of our own but it was strictly controlled and limited. Ukraine, on the other hand, was in the very centre of Soviet science, technology and industry. I already mentioned the level of my Russian and Ukrainian students in Physics and Maths - the way they are better than most of their Polish peers despite having to learn in a language foreign to them. That's why today they can lead successful drone warfare, conduct long-range strikes and produce high quality weapons of their own, whilst we have to (with very few exceptions) buy everything abroad for exorbitant prices. My children will pay all their lives for the weapons that Poland is buying now.

But we still have this idiotic feeling of superiority towards everything east of us. That's mental retardation. Someone wise once said "those who have nothing often cling to megalomania". If only we could find in ourselves a bit of humility to learn from both Ukraine and Russia, it would only serve Poland well. Not everything, of course, but the things that they do better than us. We prefer, however, to look down on them and see them as wild Asians that need to be civilised.

A lot would have to change for Poland to emerge unscathed from this entire affair. Alas, unless Iron becomes the Prime Minister and I the President (or the other way around), Poland will have to suffer and bleed way too much, again.
Torq   
16 hrs ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

A controversial statement!

Yes, you better be careful with such statements, BB, or Russia might want to "denazify" Germany too; and to do that they will have to go through Poland.

Eh... what was it that the Chinese said about interesting times?

Anyways, gotta catch some z's. Goodnight, gentlemen.
Torq   
16 hrs ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

I wanted to go to Prussia for holiday

... or maybe I will go to Soviet Union? No, wait... it doesn't exist anymore either.

Well, Austro-Hungarian Empire then! Hmm... no such country on a map.

I hope everyone sees a clear pattern that emerges - you f*ck with Poland, you cease to exist. :)
Torq   
16 hrs ago
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Torq   
16 hrs ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

also the reason Poland was crushed by them

Crushed-srushed.

I wanted to go to Prussia for holiday but it turned out it doesn't exist anymore, and tsarist Russia that kept us under her boots is a whisper in the wind of history too.

Whilst the unruly, chaotic and moronic Poland is still around, alive and kicking. In your face, Teutons and Mongols! He he :)

more people feared them instead of greeting them as liberators

Because they put skulls and bones on their caps and helmets and they told the conquered people that they were untermenschen and were going to be slaves or die. What they should have done was use a nice five-arm star and tell the conquered people that they bring them freedom, equality and brotherhood. People hate the former and still fall for the latter, even today.
Torq   
16 hrs ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

you kept on insisting on your independence...your own statehood!

Oh, right! *slaps his head*

Thanks for the reminder, BB. :)

You could be German today.....or Russian

I would be the worst German or Russian ever, with my chronic contempt for any political power above local council ha ha
Torq   
16 hrs ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

thought it was an interesting parallel to your statement

Quite.

Bravery in service of nonsense is one of many things that connects our brotherly nations.

Why, oh why, did God decide to make us enemies? Mysterious indeed are His ways.
Torq   
17 hrs ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

the US military umbrella and that idiotic A5 makes Poles act like morons vis a vis Russia

Poland fought Russia for centuries, long before the US even existed. It is our God's appointed role, for better or worse. Does it make me happy? No. But it is what it is.

Besides, I'd rather be a courageous moron than a cowardly wiseman. We are Poles. We are not going to suddenly, magically turn into Slovaks or Hungarians.

In the end, when we stand before God, we will be able to say that maybe we weren't saints but at least we weren't kurwas either. It has to count for something.
Torq   
17 hrs ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

My advantage is that I am older than you

At certain point age stops being an advantage; one no longer grows in wisdom but he still grows in stubbornness and bitterness. What can protect from this? Genuine Christianity - no matter if of Catholic, Orthodox or Protestant kind, but it has to be genuine.

it was as bad as under German occupation

I never said that.

I generally tend to agree with 90% of what you say but the admiration for Putin I will neither understand nor accept. Bobko is excused - the love of one's country and the will to serve it is a terrible force in a man's soul. You do not have this excuse though.
Torq   
18 hrs ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

I am ahead of you

I am not sure if our Russophilia is of the same variety.

I love Russian folk, the breadth of their soul, the language and literature, the folk truth (народная, духовная правда) that is gained through immense suffering, the joy through tears, the wind across a winter birch forest. You, on the other hand, love the bald KGB-ist and his mafia, their violence, and their atomic weapons (which I despise as they corrode the soul). Oh, and you like the metro stations.

We are not the same.

I would hate to read about Bobko, that he leaned to far out of a window

Windows are quite safe in America. ;)
Torq   
18 hrs ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

a source of Christian Truth, of Justice, and Vengeance

Hm... *hesitates* ... justice and Christianity... probably not so much (or at least not as defining features).

I would rather say: Folk Truth, Vengeance, and Sublime Poetry.
Torq   
18 hrs ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

Better to be a slave than a collaborator. There is dignity in service.

Hm... if you put it this way.

Social media is pure evil.

It is indeed. It is a perfect manipulation tool - the UK, such a sophisticated country with well-bred elite, were brexited by Russia like a bunch of retards with a relatively cheap social media misinformation campaign.

In any other field of human endeavors the opposite is true.

Read and weep, Cms...

naked-science.ru/article/nakedscience/zyats

... Russian technical culture is actually quite impressive. The above is just some current energetic research projects but there is a whole lot of things that I mentioned many times on this board which you refuse to acknowledge. Don't be so stubborn - give credit where credit is due. In exact sciences and engineering Russia kicks ass.

My favourite Russian specialty - nuclear icebreakers. Just so f*cking cool! Russia has maintained the world's only fleet of these beauties since 1950s!

kurwa, to jest piękne :)

❤️ ❤️ ❤️

If I weren't Polish, I'd like to be Russian (preferably a seaman serving aboard a nuclear icebreaker).
Torq   
1 day ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

But Putin has balls, and a completely broken compass in terms of danger.

I never understood the reverence that you show to this botox-filled lying coward.

Balls? Risk-taking? You're having a laugh. His every behaviour pattern shows a consistent avoidance of risk (especially personal risk, of course, he is quite happy to risk the lives of others).

Let's see...

- overreliance on bodyguards and extreme security measures employed to protect himself,
- political intimidation rather than open debate (plus total repression of domestic dissent),
- avoiding accountability through lies and misinformation,
- reliance on proxies and clandestine operations,
- the repeated avoidance of big military risk - compare the offensives of the Red Army and the current cowardly tactics in Ukraine - no major huge offensive - it all suggests fear-driven strategy (fear of defeat, not fear for soldiers' lives, for he is quite happy to send poorly trained conscripts to the frontline)

... all this clearly demostrates a pattern of self-preservation at the expense of others, a core characteristic of cowardice in leadership.

And - I have to add this - very recently he proved to be not only coward but also an idiot when he accused Poland for the outbreak of WW2 because we didn't succumb to Hitler's demands - so basically he thinks Poland should have accepted Hitler's proposal and join the anti-comintern pact and the invasion of Soviet Union.

How can you love Russia and at the same time support the man who's singlehandedly bringing her down is beyond me. Mind boggles.
Torq   
2 days ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

@mafketis

Damn it, Maf.

We are trying to recruit Bobko for Poland, which is almost impossible in itself, and here you come with your vodka, hiv and fatherless children, and ruin everything.

Well done. I hope you're proud of yourself.
Torq   
2 days ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

what do you say to my offer?

Sh*tty offer. Bobko is worth 10 regular posters easily.

But we cannot recruit him, just like he cannot recruit either of us. Love of fatherland - what horrible force.

Edit: hahaha - you beat me to it, kiddo. :D
Torq   
2 days ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

like some others

Ouch! :)

Nothing is for free, Bobi.

As for protection - who do you think will be the Germany's main bumper when Ukraine runs out of soldiers and will to fight?

etc. we could talk again!

Yeah - you tell him, BB! :)
Torq   
2 days ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

Germans get off relatively easily

Well, there were some extreme ideas circulating, like the one by Theodore N. Kaufman, so I suppose Germany did get off relatively easily ('relatively' being the key word here) especially the Western part flooded with money of Marshall plan.

But thanks to that, 60 years later Germany was able to flood Poland with money. ;)
Torq   
2 days ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

Definitely.

Polish history perfectly mirrors the life of Jesus...

1. Triumphant entry to Jerusalem - the birth of the First Rzeczpospolita.
2. Life and teaching - the Golden Age of Poland as European superpower.
3. Crucifixion - partitions.
4. Resurrection - 1918.
5. Second Coming - :) *smiles mysteriously*
Torq   
2 days ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

That must be a hard thing to hear for a Pole.

Hahaha.

True. Good folks in Poland think that Our Lord is Polish and St. Mary was a girl from kieleckie.

But I wasn't surprised when Sorokin said that.
Torq   
2 days ago
News / Polish-Russian war? Drones entering Polish airspace. [243]

Seems we have one already

Spread all over Poland, in Gdańsk and Warsaw, Wrocław and Kraków, and even small towns like Mława or Kwidzyn. That's very much different than having 2.5 million Ukrainians concentrated in one Oblast/Voivodship where they are an overwhelming majority.
Torq   
2 days ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

...and the sinking number of our populations, another important part.

Exactly.

The lack of demographic pressure (or rather a demographic decline) makes another Drang nach Osten very unlikely.
Torq   
2 days ago
News / Polish-Russian war? Drones entering Polish airspace. [243]

a part of the Polish Crown

You surely know when the last Polish king reigned. A long time ago.

Why do we need a huge minority within our borders, concentrated in one area? Dmowski would shudder at the thought. He wanted internal cohesion and ethnically uniform nation - the opposite of what incorporating Lviv Oblast would achieve.
Torq   
2 days ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1044]

the Greeks, the Portuguese, the Irish, the Italians - and maybe soon the French

Poland under Tusk is pretty much a vassal too; a bit unruly sometimes but a vassal nonetheless.

Money

Money is one thing. Law and order is another. Also, I wouldn't underestimate the fact that they denounced their imperial past and renounced military violence as a legitimate means of conducting foreign policy.
Torq   
2 days ago
News / Polish-Russian war? Drones entering Polish airspace. [243]

Lame excuse

Yes, yes - I know you still want Lwów. I just don't know what the f*ck for.

There's hardly any Poles there now, only a swarm of neo-banderists - a veritable vipers' nest.